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With all that out my chest, this is MY p4p list:

1) Crawford
2) Lomachenko
3) Thurman
4) Gilberto Ramirez (and no its not because he's Mexican)
5) Joshua

The way I do a p4p list is if they are a champ in their division, and if anyone 1 weight class smaller or 1 weight class bigger can defeat them, and how they win their fights.
 
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What has Crawford done to deserve #1? Reminds me of Nonito Donaires fighter of the year award that a lot of people didn't like because while he went 4-0 that year, they were all solid opposition but nothing special. Crawford to me has beat solid opposition but nothing special. His best win is who? Viktor Postol, who was a good win for the division but hasn't shown he's anything special and Gamboa back in 2014, who not only was way too small for the division and Crawford, but fell the fuck off and essentially is a shit fighter now and lost to a guy named Robinson Castellanos with a 23-12 record. Call me when he fights and beats Mikey Garcia. Hell, even a faded Pacquiao passing of the torch type of fight would be more valuable then some of his recent wins.

I'll take Lomachenko who justed fucked up Rigondeux, one of the best pure boxing talents I've ever seen in my life and not only fucked him up but made him no mas. In fact, his last FOUR opponents he forced them to no mas, including Nicholas Walters who was a wrecking machine going into the fight. And sure, while Rigondeaux was from the division below, it's a 4 pound weight difference, and no man at 126 makes Rigondeaux no mas, no one but Loma.

Plus, just look at Loma inside the ring. He's doing shit that other elite guys simply cannot do. He's got more angles than a protractor. Crawford is solid all around but nothing I see him do inside the ring screams P4P #1, nothing.
 
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What has Crawford done to deserve #1? Reminds me of Nonito Donaires fighter of the year award that a lot of people didn't like because while he went 4-0 that year, they were all solid opposition but nothing special. Crawford to me has beat solid opposition but nothing special. His best win is who? Viktor Postol, who was a good win for the division but hasn't shown he's anything special and Gamboa back in 2014, who not only was way too small for the division and Crawford, but fell the fuck off and essentially is a shit fighter now and lost to a guy named Robinson Castellanos with a 23-12 record. Call me when he fights and beats Mikey Garcia. Hell, even a faded Pacquiao passing of the torch type of fight would be more valuable then some of his recent wins.

I'll take Lomachenko who justed fucked up Rigondeux, one of the best pure boxing talents I've ever seen in my life and not only fucked him up but made him no mas. In fact, his last FOUR opponents he forced them to no mas, including Nicholas Walters who was a wrecking machine going into the fight. And sure, while Rigondeaux was from the division below, it's a 4 pound weight difference, and no man at 126 makes Rigondeaux no mas, no one but Loma.

Plus, just look at Loma inside the ring. He's doing shit that other elite guys simply cannot do. He's got more angles than a protractor. Crawford is solid all around but nothing I see him do inside the ring screams P4P #1, nothing.
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What's up, fool? Anyways...

Like I said previous, I will not argue if anyone has Loma at #1 or #2. but I do have Crawford at #1 because he has more fights under his belt, he is undefeated, has accomplished more in boxing than anyone in the current state of boxing, and is till moving up for tougher fights in a division where I still don't see anyone defeating him. Crawford would have stayed at 140 to make the Garcia fight happen but Garcia kept making shitty excuses for not fighting Crawford. Now Crawford leaves and Garcia is going for I think the 140 WBA belt when he has the diamond WBC belt after he defeated Broner. Garcia clearly ducked Crawford, ducked Linares, and doesn't want to stay at 135 like that because he will get schooled by Loma as well. So to say Crawford should have fought Mikey is a bad argument. If anything, Loma needs to do his best to unify 130 and cough up some money. Crawford did.
 
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Yeah Loma looked too disgusting against Rigo for me not to put him up there. Dude took the first match up in pro boxing that included 2x golds between the 2 and made it look extremely easy.

I can't knock Crawford on who he's fought though. Embarrassing Postol and wiping his ass with Indongo (a guy who was all risk and no reward and in no way did Crawford have to fight) is not something to sneeze at. No doubt that Crawford wants better fights, can't knock him for who gets in the ring against.
 
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What Loma did to Rigo was crazy! The fact that he went in there and beat him at his own game was something else. I do agree with Dan Rafael and he would give a Pretty Boy Floyd hell at 130.

But what Crawford has done is also amazing. He has knocked out 2 gold medalists in his career and both were Cuban too. With him, he doesn't need a game plan. They need a game plan for him.

Loma is getting there but he needs to at least unify all belts and destroy Tank. Once he does that then he will get legit #1 p4p status. But it still will be hard cuz Bud will KO Horn early and he will retire Manny.
 
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Some good end of the year 2017 boxing summary here...


pt. 1


pt. 2

He's got a British bias I believe but puts together some good videos that you might've passed up because of the clickbait screenshot /thumbnail . He's got Crawford at #1.
 
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What's up, fool? Anyways...

Like I said previous, I will not argue if anyone has Loma at #1 or #2. but I do have Crawford at #1 because he has more fights under his belt, he is undefeated, has accomplished more in boxing than anyone in the current state of boxing, and is till moving up for tougher fights in a division where I still don't see anyone defeating him. Crawford would have stayed at 140 to make the Garcia fight happen but Garcia kept making shitty excuses for not fighting Crawford. Now Crawford leaves and Garcia is going for I think the 140 WBA belt when he has the diamond WBC belt after he defeated Broner. Garcia clearly ducked Crawford, ducked Linares, and doesn't want to stay at 135 like that because he will get schooled by Loma as well. So to say Crawford should have fought Mikey is a bad argument. If anything, Loma needs to do his best to unify 130 and cough up some money. Crawford did.
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Garcia as you know had promotional issues. My argument isn't that Crawford should have fought Garcia by now, I'm saying call me when he does and if he beats him then we can talk about p4p #1. I'm saying Crawford lacks a GREAT win like that on his resume. He has some good wins, he has some very, very solid wins. Like naner pointed out he has a couple underrated wins as well. But Loma has beat ELITE fighters, again, he just dominated one of the greatest pure boxers I've ever seen. Crawford lacks a big win like that which IMO is why Loma deserves p4p king status right now not Crawford.

This isn't really critism of Crawford, he's done his job by beating everyone they've put in front of him. I just see a more skilled fighter in Loma who just wiped fucked up Rigondeax, words I never thought I'd say. I always thought if/when Rigondeaux got beat it would either be because he got old or because someone landed a lucky KO blow out of nowhere. I didn't think I'd see anyone OUTCLASS him and that'd exactly what loma did - he proved he's on another level.
 
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Danny Garcia getting some more light work in Brandon Rios. I don’t understand thinking you beat Thurman and then in your next fight, fighting a dude who’s not in the top ten.
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I actually don't see it like that. I see it as Rios is getting a shot at proving himself and finally getting a fight he deserves. Garcia finally lost a fight, and needs a KO in order to win some fans back. Garcia is gonna have to take risks and Rios is not the one to be doing that with. But Rios has to win by KO as well based on the fact that Garcia has a reputation of winning fights via a gift from the judges. This is actually a pretty good matchup for both fighters.
 
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Actually, Spence should have fought Cotto. He gained nothing by fighting a shot out Peterson. He could have fought Cotto as a ppv and earned a lil more money and become a bigger star. But fuck it Haymon is in his ear and butt
 
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in my mind pacquiao is a thing of the past. A legend no doubt, but his time is out as far as I’m concerned.

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Actually, Spence should have fought Cotto. He gained nothing by fighting a shot out Peterson. He could have fought Cotto as a ppv and earned a lil more money and become a bigger star. But fuck it Haymon is in his ear and butt
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I doubt cotto wanted Spence for his final bout.

When you compare d. Garcia and Spence’s Peterson fights, its clear that Spence is not to be fucked with if you’re trying to stay undefeated. The truth he is.

Also I didn’t see angel at the press conference???? Wonder if the loss to pony tail ruined the old man
 
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in my mind pacquiao is a thing of the past. A legend no doubt, but his time is out as far as I’m concerned.



I doubt cotto wanted Spence for his final bout.

When you compare d. Garcia and Spence’s Peterson fights, its clear that Spence is not to be fucked with if you’re trying to stay undefeated. The truth he is.

Also I didn’t see angel at the press conference???? Wonder if the loss to pony tail ruined the old man
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Hell yeah he wanted Spence. it didn't matter if he won or loss to Cotto, he wanted to go out with a bang! the more of a bang the more money he would have got.

And as far as Garcia vs Peterson, that was Garcia looking like shit cuz he was cherry picking too much. Spence is not picking so he's staying sharp.
 
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Can you smell what the rock is cooking?




And right on cue Mayweather trolling like muuuhh lol....

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FUckin' AB....


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Adrien Broner Arrested For Sexual Battery - Mugshot Too
Former four division world champion Adrien Broner was booked into Atlanta's Fulton County Jail on a misdemeanor charge of sexual battery early Tuesday morning, according to several reports and confirmed by jail records.
The 28-year-old was scheduled to appear before a judge at 9 a.m. Tuesday, TMZ Sports reports. Police told TMZ that a woman has accused Broner of inappropriately groping her at the Lenox Square shopping center.
Last April, police pulled Broner over in an SUV riddled with bullet holes in Covington, Kentucky, and arrested him on an open warrant for a 2014 public intoxication charge.
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That was less than three weeks after he pleaded not guilty to aggravated robbery and felonious assault when a man accused him of assaulting him outside Madison Bowl in Oakley.
Black Sports Online spoke with the Atlanta Police Department and were given the following statement - "On February 12, 2018 Atlanta Police Units were dispatched to 3393 Peachtree Road in reference to a sexual battery. Upon arrival, units spoke with the victim who advised that she had been inappropriately groped by a male later identified as Mr. Adrien Broner. Mr. Broner denied the accusations and after being interviewed was charged with misdemeanor sexual battery and transported to Fulton County Jail without incident. At this time there is no additional information to provide regarding this case."
Late last year, a video surfaced of Broner knocking an unknown individual out on the strip of Las Vegas. A summons for batter was issued in the incident.
Broner's criminal history also includes charges of robbery (2010 and 2007), aggravated robbery (2007), felonious assault (2007), gun charges (2007 and 2008), domestic violence (2008), intimidation of a witness (2008) and battery (2013).
Broner (33-3, 24 KOs) is scheduled to headline a Showtime televised main event on April 21 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. He is set to face former world champion Omar Figueroa. It was be Broner's first bout since losing a twelve round unanimous decision to Mikey Garcia last July, at the same Brooklyn venue.
There is no word if the changes will in any way affect the upcoming contest with Figueroa.
Recently, Broner had promised to change his entire career around and stay away from trouble as an effort to turn his life around. He began training with Kevin Cunningham as a way to polish up his skills and go through a tough camp, as a loss to Figueroa could spell the end of his career as a headliner.
 
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