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Feb 10, 2006
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@ 150,000 ppv buys for GGG vs Lemieux is not surprising at all. I've said before that HBO had to take the Lemieux vs N'Daam fight, aired a legit Faceoff, and a 24/7. They just did 2days or whatever. This was HBO's fault.
 
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Why you do care so much about PPV buys? No one was expecting this to be big and K2 even said they were only hoping for 200k-250k. The point of the PPV was to get Lemieux in the ring otherwise he would have walked and GGG wouldn't have got a unification fight. They had to sweeten the deal by offering more money, a PPV and a split of the revenue. They got what they wanted which was Lemieux's title.
 
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I just really don't think it matters all that much. All parties involved are likely satisfied, they did well on the live gate, and with hype the replay will likely have good ratings on HBO.

Canelo was fortunate to have his PPV debut against Floyd, Floyd was fortunate his was against Gatti, even Cotto got Judah for his first PPV - all guys that American boxing fans are familiar with. As long as he continues his impressive performances and the hype machine behind him stays strong he'll be fine.
 
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Exactly my point, all those other PPV's were PPV worthy and had two good fighters while this wack PPV had a unknown building his name and another super unknown who barely knows himself lol. Got Em!!
 

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Exactly my point, all those other PPV's were PPV worthy and had two good fighters while this wack PPV had a unknown building his name and another super unknown who barely knows himself lol. Got Em!!
What part of the ppv being mostly about the title do you not understand? Were they building the GGG brand? Yes. Did they break even? It appears so. Was the fight sold out? Yes. Was Lemieux goign to enter the ring for anything less than the $1.5 million he got? No. Going the PPV route was the only way they could make the money and then some. So take out the 150k buys and do the math. that's $7.5 million they would have missed out on if they didn't go the ppv route. Who was going to cover that? HBO?
 

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Dont care, thats a wack number for a PPV and it should have never been a PPV. Yall can find reasons as to why it was but 150k is 150k. Booboo PPV numbers. I think more people would pay to see Floyd and Bieber fucking than that fight lol. Got Em!!
 

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Golovkin-Lemiuex sells roughly 150,000 PPVs - Bad Left Hook

In what proves to be an interesting dichotomy, multiple industry sources are saying Gennady Golovkin's PPV debut against David Lemieux registered only about 150,000 buys, with at least one source saying it was even less than that. Obviously everyone involved hoped for a much better showing on the PPV market, but this is a rather surprising juxtaposition since Golovkin-Lemieux was a pretty hot ticket and did extremely well at the live gate -- breaking a pre-sale record and ultimately selling-out Madison Square Garden to the tune of 20,568 in attendance.

Could this mean that Golovkin is not as big of a star as we all might've thought? It's certainly possible. Golovkin failed to hit the 300,000 mark that both Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather hit on their first PPV, and even did much less than Shane Mosley's "500,000" buys for his recent rematch with Ricardo Mayorga (however ridiculous that claim was). Tom Loeffler, Golovkin's promoter, had said prior to the fight that about 200,000 buys would be sufficient to make the fight a financial success. In that sense, it appears this wasn't.

So if HBO was testing the PPV market for Golovkin here, that aspect surely wasn't a home run, but probably more like a drag bunt single, if that. It looks like the network, promoters, marketers, etc. still have their work cut out for them to bring Golovkin into the big time.

***UPDATE***

Well it seems things are worse than originally estimated. I just received word that after another day of number crunching, Golovkin-Lemieux is struggling to hit even 125,000 PPV buys. Ouch!

Haha. Got Em!! :cheeky:
 
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What point are you trying to make here? You can go to the first page of the GGG-Lemieux thread long before the fight happened explaining why this was on PPV (in order to pay Lemieux what he was demanding) and that it probably only needed to do 100k to break even and that the total buys are expected to be low.

This isn't some Mayweather vs Pacquiao debate where people were arguing over PPV buys constantly, which was a sad part boxing fans history I might add, so I don't get what you're getting wiled up about. No one claimed Gennady, a guy from Kazakhstan, would be the next PPV king or anything like that at all. Golovkin vs Lemieux was going to be on regular HBO, they couldn't secure Lemieux with HBOs budget so they had to put it on PPV. It's as simple as that. Furthermore it was his first PPV against an opponent without a name that he was heavily favored against. Obviously if they make a PPV against someone with actual name value it will do much better.
 
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What point are you trying to make here? You can go to the first page of the GGG-Lemieux thread long before the fight happened explaining why this was on PPV (in order to pay Lemieux what he was demanding) and that it probably only needed to do 100k to break even and that the total buys are expected to be low.

This isn't some Mayweather vs Pacquiao debate where people were arguing over PPV buys constantly, which was a sad part boxing fans history I might add, so I don't get what you're getting wiled up about. No one claimed Gennady, a guy from Kazakhstan, would be the next PPV king or anything like that at all. Golovkin vs Lemieux was going to be on regular HBO, they couldn't secure Lemieux with HBOs budget so they had to put it on PPV. It's as simple as that. Furthermore it was his first PPV against an opponent without a name that he was heavily favored against. Obviously if they make a PPV against someone with actual name value it will do much better.
You're wasting your time. When I made my post his first sentence was "don't care." and since my post is basically the same as yours, it's useless to go into it.

At least he said Floyd and Bieber are fucking each other so he can;t be all that bad, right?
 

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You damn right his next fight if on PPV will be someone with a name because he cant carry his weight with his own name right now lol. 125k doe! lol Got Em!!
 
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Nonito Donaire-Cesar Juarez agreed to for Dec. 11 truTV card

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Nonito Donaire will face Cesar Juarez on Dec. 11 on truTV. (EPA/RITCHIE B. TONGO)

Nonito Donaire will face Cesar Juarez on Dec. 11 on truTV. (EPA/RITCHIE B. TONGO)

OMAHA, Neb. — Nonito Donaire isn’t getting a shot at Scott Quigg, but he has another meaningful fight.

The Filipino Flash and Cesar Juarez have agreed to a WBO junior featherweight international title on Dec. 11 in the main event on truTV, Donaire’s manager Cameron Dunkin told USA TODAY Sports on Wednesday. The likely site is Puerto Rico, but nothing is set yet.

Guillermo Rigondeaux defeated Donaire (35-3, 23 KOs) in 2013 to win the become the division’s current WBO champion, but hasn’t fought in almost one year and has no fights scheduled. He was asked by the sanctioning body last week to show cause why he shouldn’t be stripped of the title. If he is indeed forced to relinquish the belt, the Donaire-Juarez matchup will crown a new WBO champion without the secondary international designation attached.

Donaire, the 2012 boxing writers’ fighter of the year, was knocked out by Nicholas Walters last November and has feasted on lesser opposition since, with second-round stoppage victories over William Prado and Anthony Settoul. The 32-year-old returned to 122 pounds after four fights at featherweight.

Juarez (17-3, 13 KOs) has never scored a win over a name opponent, but is the WBO’s No. 1 contender after topping Juan Carlos Sanchez Jr. in July. The 24-year-old Mexican will step way up in class with the Donaire assignment.
 
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Boxer Terrel Williams is deeply shaken by bout that left opponent Prichard Colon in coma

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Terrel Williams claimed the most impressive victory of his career Saturday night, but before he could emerge from postfight meetings to celebrate, he was floored by heartbreaking news.

Prichard Colon, the 23-year-old Puerto Rican who Williams knocked down twice en route to a victory by disqualification in Fairfax, Va., had fallen ill after suffering his first loss and was transported to a hospital.

Colon required brain surgery to relieve swelling and remained in a coma Tuesday, his family keeping vigil.

“I just wanted to go home [Saturday] and enjoy my victory with my family, just like I’m sure he wanted to go home and be with his family,” Williams, 31, told The Times on Tuesday in a telephone interview from his Woodland Hills home.

Williams said he has cried several times since learning of Colon’s condition, and paused to collect himself while talking about hearing how dire Colon's plight was.

.My heart dropped, my stomach dropped. I'm praying for him multiple times daily to make a full recovery. I cannot enjoy this victory. I'm worried about Prichard. - Terrel Williams
“My heart dropped, my stomach dropped. I’m praying for him multiple times daily to make a full recovery,” Williams said. “I cannot enjoy this victory. I’m worried about Prichard.”

Williams (15-0, 12 knockouts) took the fight on three weeks’ notice and found himself in a scrap against Colon, who modeled himself after legendary countryman Felix Trinidad.

“It was like fighting a mirror of me. The guy was sharp, strong, fast,” Williams said. “I knew he was a great fighter, a future world champion. I didn’t see any flaws in him. I told myself this fight is going to be difficult because I wanted to win and knew I was going to have to go through punches to do so. I had to be strong and stick to the game plan.”

But the plan was wrinkled by unexpected turns.

Colon was disciplined in the fifth round after striking Williams with a low blow deemed so severe that referee Joseph Cooper deducted two points from Colon.

Williams hit Colon with punches behind the head that caused Colon to take an extended break, and then forced Cooper to deduct a point from Williams in the seventh round.

A spokeswoman for the Virginia Department of Professional and Occupational Regulation told The Times that the department is launching an investigation into “the situation, the incident and the cause” of Colon’s injury.

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Mary Vaughan added that Virginia Boxing Commissioner David Holland told the respective corners “to get [the] fighters under control and not to engage in stall tactics.”

Williams said he can’t remember what was said by officials as the point deductions were distributed.

“It’s a lot different when you’re fighting. Your emotions and your adrenaline are going, so a lot of the things you see on the outside looking in, I don’t remember,” Williams said. “We were in a fight, a tough fight, and I just wanted to win.

“There was never any thinking that I was going to do some dirty tactics … he didn’t have to do that, either, and I know he didn’t do anything maliciously. It’s just that when you’re in the heat of the moment, you’re fighting, you’re boxing, you’re landing punches, and sometimes punches land where they’re not supposed to land.

“But I know from my end, I didn’t do anything maliciously, just like I know he didn’t do anything to try to damage me permanently. … I have nothing but respect for the fighter.”

In the ninth round, Williams took control, twice knocking down Colon. Colon’s cornermen cut off his gloves after the round, thinking it had been the 10th and final round, and Cooper disqualified Colon.
 
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This past ppv was a legit showcase of 2 possible #1 p4p fighters showing the world how it's supposed to be done and it should have done 250k ppv buys easily. CZAR @CZAR is 100% correct in saying that these are weak numbers and HBO fumbled big time. Shit, last night I got OnDemand and they are barely showing the Faceoff! WTF! Too little, too late. No one here can justify these numbers because at the end of the day this was a business move and the whole point of a ppv is to maximize the dollar and HBO didn't do that.
 
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