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49ers coach Mike Singletary indicated Friday that the team may eventually look into signing free agent OLB Adalius Thomas.
"There could be, but right now I think we have our place full," Singletary said. The Niners went hard after Thomas in 2007 free agency before he signed with New England, though his play has declined since. He could become an option if unsigned RFA Manny Lawson sits out mandatory offseason work.

The 49ers will host free agent CB Will James on Monday.
James, 31, would compete for a roster spot in San Francisco. Somewhat surprisingly, the Niners didn't come out of the draft with cornerback help.
 

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The San Francisco 49ers announced on Friday that they have signed free agent LB Brandon Long to a two-year contract.

Long (6-3, 254), tallied 68 tackles in four seasons at Michigan State, including 11.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks, in 43 career games. As a senior in 2008, Long was named honorable mention All-Big Ten by the media and had a career-high 39 tackles, including 5.5 sacks.

Long, a 23-year old from Canton, OH, attended Glen Oak High School where he finished his prep career with 274 tackles, 34 for losses and 24 sacks.
 

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Rookie minicamp notes
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/05/rookie-minicamp-notes.html
We're in between practices here on Day 2 of the 49ers' rookie mini-camp. Tomorrow's session has morphed from a field practice to team meetings, with no media access, so today's afternoon work could be the last we see of the young guys for a while.

I'll be throwing a lot of quotes and information at you over the next couple days. For now, as I work on a story for Sunday's paper, I'll leave you with some observations from the morning practice.

• WR Kyle Williams sat out with a strained hamstring, and WR Scott Long was ill. Down a couple receivers, the 49ers took DB/KR LeRoy Vann, popped a red shirt on him instead of white, and plugged him in at WR.


• QB Jarrett Brown was scattershot on Friday but looked much more poised today. Some of his passes fluttered, but he looked crisp dropping back, making his reads and getting rid of the ball. Stanford product Tavita Pritchard finally got some reps today, but it was his turn to look shaky.


• RB Anthony Dixon had trouble staying on his feet. In fact, the second time he went to the ground, helped by a push, Mike Singletary bellowed that the next time someone hit the turf, the whole team would run. Luckily for the players, it was an empty threat, because Dixon fell like three more times.
Later, the running back suggested he was working on staying low while running; maybe that affected his balance. "Coach was getting onto me in offensive meetings about being high, not hitting the hole as hard so I was definitely trying to lay the bone," Dixon said. "If anybody was going to get in my way today, they was going to get ran over."
Unless he fell down first.


• Fun to listen to the offensive line coaches. Assistant Ray Brown told Mike Iupati "you have to trust yourself" while working on one technique. Mike Solari to Anthony Davis: "Knock his ass off the ball. Knock his ass what? Off the ball."
By the way, Davis was at right tackle and Iupati at left guard. Iupati pulled on one play and hammered LB Martail Burnett.


• A couple unheralded guys who made their presence felt: CB Patrick Stoudamire and RB Brandon Fragger, who is here on a tryout basis. Stoudamire broke up a couple of Pritchard's weaker offerings. Fragger looked very quick in and out of cuts, and he snagged a swing pass with one hand.


• The 49ers held Anthony Davis out of the second team period, and offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye explained afterward that Davis had taken all the reps previously that practice, plus some special work between group sessions. They didn't want to overtax the big rookie with another practice in the p.m.


• Taylor Mays made an interception - something he was criticized for not doing enough at USC - on a deep pass from Jarrett Brown. Afterward he addressed issue: "I think that's a part of the game I need to add, obviously. That's what the best safeties in the NFL do, they make interceptions. I didn't do that too much in college, but I don't think that means that I can't do it, I think it just means I gotta show I can do it now."


Mays also tried to quiet the chatter about how he was irked at former Trojans coach Pete Carroll for selecting another safety with a different skill set, Earl Thomas, in the first round. "I haven't talked to him," Mays said. "But I'm sure I'll talk to him, and I know he didn't take it personal. And if I saw him right now, I know there wouldn't be any bad blood. I'm sure I'll talk to him in the next couple weeks. There's definitely no bad blood. I wouldn't think he'd feel that way toward me, and I hope he wouldn't think that I feel that way towards him."
 

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49ers notes: Ginn earns early raves as receiver
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/05/01/2719431/49ers-notes-ginn-earns-early-raves.html#mi_rss=49ers

SANTA CLARA – Ted Ginn Jr. may have left Miami with a reputation for timid play, but the wide receiver is making a strong first impression with the 49ers.

Last week, he and quarterback Alex Smith took the field for a throwing session in a drizzle. That drizzle quickly turned into a downpour, but Ginn kept running routes. Smith said he took note of the new 49er's determination.

"He's come in, he's been here every day since he's got here," Smith said. "He's been hungry, he's been out here throwing with us. … Whether or not he was like that before, I don't know, but he's come in here with a great attitude."

The coaching staff has been just as impressed, so much so that it is reassessing Ginn's role on the team. When he was signed last month, the assumption was that Ginn would be plugged in as the team's return man – one of the 49ers' neediest positions – and that wide receiver would be a secondary role for the 180-pound speedster. Ginn, however, saw significant action as a receiver during a veterans practice Friday morning.

"I think more and more every day, I hear the coaches coming back … saying, 'You know what? This guy has a lot more to him than just return guy. He's going to help our team as a receiver,' " coach Mike Singletary said. "I just think they have their hands on him and are just going to give him a chance to show what he can do."

Last season the 49ers' running game struggled in part because defenses brought their safeties close to the line of scrimmage. The hope this year is that Ginn's speed will force those safeties to respect the 49ers' deep passing game, thereby giving Frank Gore more room to run.

If Ginn's role as a receiver expands, his special teams role will shrink, Singletary said. That's especially true on punt returns. The 49ers used one of their starters, cornerback Nate Clements, in that role in Week 8 last season, then watched as he broke a shoulder on a return and was lost for the season.

"I believe the more (Ginn) gets acclimated, the better he gets at being a receiver, the less we are going to want him doing some of those things," Singletary said. "I think it's important to remember he is a receiver. Yes, he has some value as a return guy, but hopefully we can get good enough where it's on a needed basis."

The 49ers' return game was terrible in 2009. They averaged just 4.4 yards per punt return, the lowest in the league. If Ginn doesn't take on that role, the 49ers have two rookies with extensive experience returning punts – sixth-round draft pick Kyle Williams and LeRoy Vann, who went undrafted.

Ginn, meanwhile, says he's willing to do whatever is asked of him.

"I believe I can do both," he said. "I believe I can add something to the offense. As long as I come in and take care of the offensive part, the special teams will be easy."

Et cetera – Before the rookies took the field, they watched in T-shirts and shorts as the veterans practiced in the morning. The idea, Singletary said, was to show the newcomers what's expected of them.

"A picture is worth a thousand words," Singletary said, "and there's no better way to try to explain the tempo that we work at."

• The team signed outside linebacker Brandon Long on Friday. Long had 51/2 sacks for Michigan State in 2008 but was not drafted in 2009.

• Singletary said the team was happy with the outside linebackers it has on the roster and there was no immediate interest in free agent Adalius Thomas, who played for Singletary in Baltimore.
 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=capress-fbn_49ers_big_impressions-304778130
The team put Davis at right tackle and Iupati at left guard this week, where they're expected to compete for starting roles once the rest of the veterans join the competition.

Against other rookies, undrafted free agents and tryout players, Davis and Iupati stand out in the trenches simply by their sheer size and talent.

"They've shown the athleticism, the quickness, the explosion, the power, the heavy hands, the ability to drop their weight, sink and anchor," Raye said. "In the drills, they've shown all that."

Actually, Raye was selling the pair a bit light in the size department. Davis carries 323 pounds on his six-foot-five frame and the 6-5 Iupati tips the scales at 331, making him the heaviest player on the San Francisco roster.

That's not by mistake. The 49ers are looking to get bigger and brawnier not just along their offensive line, but throughout their entire roster.

"(Coach Mike) Singletary, he brings in a lot of big guys," Iupati said. "From what I've seen from the veterans here, they're just big guys. I took 10 (pre-draft) visits, and this was the biggest offensive line group I saw."

That meets a clear objective for the 49ers, who envision themselves by design as a power rushing team. San Francisco, however, finished 25th in the league last year in rushing offence despite featuring a Pro Bowl running back in Frank Gore(notes).

"It makes it a little bit more obvious of what the coaches are doing here," Davis said. "We are going to run the ball. We will run the ball."
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49ers sign UC Davis WR Grant as undrafted free agent
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/..._campaign=Feed:+49ersHotRead+(49ers+Hot+Read)
UC Davis receiver Bakari Grant apparently made a good impression during his weekend tryout. The 49ers will sign the undrafted free agent to a two-year contract. The deal is expected to be formally announced Monday.

Grant (6-4, 195 pounds) still faces long odds to make the opening day roster. But he made the most of his chance during the 49ers’ three-day mini-camp for rookies and tryout players. Grant caught a 40-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Jarrett Brown on Saturday.

The Oakland native had 45 catches for 584 yards (13.0 average) and 5 touchdowns for the Aggies last season. He ran a 4.67 at UC Davis’ Pro Day and looked good in the drills.
 

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Rookies Conclude First Minicamp
http://prod.www.49ers.clubs.nfl.com...Minicamp/21f9f8f1-703d-414b-8856-259454ff9465

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and the same can be said for the 49ers 2010 rookie class. The process in shaping the newcomers into NFL-ready contributors will take time, but the first stages were encouraging according to the 49ers offensive and defensive coordinators.

At the conclusion of the team’s rookie minicamp on Saturday (Sunday’s practice was changed to just meetings only), both Greg Manusky and Jimmy Raye were openly optimistic about the talent level of this year’s rookie class.

“I think any time you get some of these draft choices in here, it’s a little different than the college scene, but for the most part, they’re doing a pretty good job,” Manusky said.

But as much as the newcomers have flashed impressive qualities in the first stage of their NFL careers, the coaches don’t want to get too enamored with what they’ve seen so far.

“We have to make sure we don’t evaluate them in shorts and t-shirts,” Raye noted.

The most important aspect of the minicamp was to create a foundation for each player in helping them adapt to the 49ers way of doing things.

“You try to work on their stance, you try to work on their footwork, but you’re not really going to accomplish much in two or three practices,” Manusky said. “What you’re going to try to do is set a foundation for them and eventually the next two weeks that they’re not around, try to work on those things when they’re there and all of the sudden when they come into OTAs, really start hammering them with those situations, their footwork, or eyes or whatever it might be.”

One player in particular who spent much of the past two days working on stance and footwork was first-round pick Mike Iupati. The massive 331-pound guard had an eventful first two days working with offensive line coach Mike Solari, but was no worse for the wear.

“I’m getting better every day and with the coaches help it will get a lot better technique-wise,” Iupati said. “I have great strength, but I have to put it into technique.”

As the No. 17 overall pick in the 2010 Draft, Iupati has set high standards for what he can accomplish as a rookie.

“I have high expectations because I was a high first-round pick. I have to live up to that expectation and prove that I was worthy.”

Likewise, safety Taylor Mays wishes to make the 49ers look awfully smart in picking him No. 49 overall. But in order to do that, he’s using the first minicamp as a barometer for what to expect for the rest of the offseason.

“At this minicamp I hope to just get the tempo and see what the expectations are like from Coach Singletary and his staff. I want to be able to take that and then when I come back I will know where I need to be.”

With every player, there will be adjustments made here or there, but with Mays, one aspect of his game won’t need much coaching up from Manusky and his staff.

“The one thing I can’t coach is 4.38 (speed) or whatever he runs. I can’t coach that. That’s what mom and dad gave him. From that standpoint, it’s good that he can run that,” Manusky said. “Now, we’ve just got to work on his footwork, work on his eyes and all of those little things.”

While running back Anthony Dixon might not possess the same kind of speed Mays has, the sixth-round pick has shown the coaching staff impressive footwork among other skills in just two days of practice. And while Raye is big on evaluating players with full pads on, the running back selected in the sixth-round felt good about what he showcased at his first pro minicamp.

“I just want to be the all-around football player that I can be,” Dixon said. “It doesn't matter if they want me to catch passes or run between the tackles, or lead up there and block. The thing with me is I just want to be a football player, no matter what they ask me to do, and that's what I'm working towards.”

Dixon, a self-described 49ers fan growing up, is also fired up about working with running back coach Tom Rathman, one of the organization’s all-time great fullbacks.

“It's been great to work with Coach Rathman,” Dixon said. “I'm just glad to have a coach like him; he's really pumping that energy and showing me that intensity and I love it."

Now that the rookies have undergone a crash-course in how to practice like a member of the 49ers, they’ll be ready for what’s to come: a rigorous offseason schedule like nothing they’ve ever experienced.

They’ll get started in two weeks, taking part in their first week of the team’s offseason conditioning program.
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49ers' return game suddenly a strength
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100502/sports/100509967

SANTA CLARA — Sixteen days ago, the 49ers may have been wondering who, exactly, would be returning punts and kickoffs in 2010. They're probably still wondering — but now it's because they suddenly have a wealth of options, rather than a lack.

Ted Ginn, Kyle Williams and LeRoy Vann, all of them newcomers, could provide some of this team's most spirited competition over the next few months. And that would suit the 49ers just fine.

Last year, kick returns were a clear sore spot in San Francisco. The team ranked dead last in the NFL in punt returns with a miserable 4.4-yard average, and 23rd in kickoff returns at 21.8. The return men fumbled 10 times, tied for most in the league. Three of the four players who handled the bulk of the returns — Michael Robinson, Josh Morgan and Brandon Jones — are still here. But Morgan is getting to be too valuable as a receiver, and Robinson and Jones underperformed.

That's why the 49ers traded a fifth-round pick to Miami for Ginn on Apr. 16, drafted Williams out of Arizona State in the sixth round and signed Vann, an undrafted free agent from Florida A&M, shortly thereafter.

All of them have done this sort of thing before. Ginn, considered one of the fastest players in the NFL, averaged 24.9 yards on kickoff returns and ran two back for touchdowns last year for the Dolphins. Williams averaged 10.4 yards on punt returns and 22.9 yards on kickoff returns for the Sun Devils. Vann set an NCAA record with 11 combined kick returns for touchdowns, and is one of only five Football Championship Subdivision players to return both punts and kickoffs for at least 1,000 yards each.

Ginn would clearly seem to be the frontrunner, based solely on his NFL credentials and pedigree as a first-round pick. But on Friday, coach Mike Singleatry suggested that the more Ginn is integrated into the offense as an X, or split-end, receiver, the less he'll be asked to sacrifice his body on returns.

“I believe I can do both,” Ginn said after Friday's one-day voluntary veteran practice. “I believe I'm an asset to the offense. As long as I come in and take care of the offensive part, the special teams should be easy.”

If Ginn becomes the deep threat the 49ers are looking for, that could open up the door for Williams, a San Jose native who also starred as an outfielder for the ASU baseball team. Williams doesn't mind if his NFL entry comes through special teams.

“I told Coach Singletary on the phone when he called me, ‘I'll long-snap if have to,'” he said. “I don't care. I just want to be on the field, on a team, playing football.”

Of course, Williams conceivably could find himself working into the offense, too. His combination of quickness, straight-line speed and catching ability makes him a candidate for the slot position.

And that could mean a roster spot for Vann, the little-known cornerback with the gaudy return numbers. He didn't exactly face big-time competition at Florida A&M, but he insists he isn't intimidated.

“Every man should want to have somebody to compete against, so that's what I've come here to do,” Vann said. “You never want to get it easy.”

Vann is the smallest of the trio at 5-foot-8, 177 pounds. Then again, the others aren't exactly Deion Sanders-sized. Ginn is 5-11, 180 pounds, and Williams is 5-10, 186. Vann knows his size is one reason he didn't get drafted.

“I think that played a big role, because they think height matters,” he said. “But I think it's what's inside your heart.”
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Manusky's first impressions

The 49ers ignored Greg Manusky's defense in the first round of the draft, but the coordinator does have some new pieces to fit into his 3-4 scheme. There is second-round pick S Taylor Mays, of course, and third-rounder LB Navorro Bowman, plus seventh-round choice CB Phillip Adams and free-agent LB Travis LaBoy.

Manusky spoke to reporters Saturday, ambling to the podium with the use of a cane. (I'm told he's had hip replacement surgery.) Maybe it's just me, but there's something about a beefy guy with a cane that makes him look even more imposing - like at any minute he might take the device and beat you to death with it.

Anyway, here is some of the give and take with Manusky.

NOT TO MENTION, WHO HAS THE BEST RENDITION OF THEIR COLLEGE FIGHT SONG
Manusky on what he'd like see accomplished during the rookie minicamp: "I think with the younger guys that come in here, they're a little bit out of shape and they've got to go through the training camp procedures. There's a lot of meeting time. A lot of practice time. The stuff they should be working on, certain techniques, certain fundamentals and eventually they try to figure it out and try to be the best that they can. That's what we're trying to see what they can do physically and what they can't do."

THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. MAYS
Manusky on what he saw in Taylor Mays before the draft: "The one thing I can't coach is 4.38 or whatever he runs. I can't coach that. That's what mom and dad gave him. From that standpoint, it's good that he can run that. Now we've just got to work on his footwork, work on his eyes and all of those little things that Coach Sing talks about all the time."

IN OTHER WORDS, MAYS WILL BE FEWER THAN 22 YARDS OFF THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
Manusky on whether USC's defensive system was different than the 49ers': "I think a little bit. I think every system is a little bit different. From the standpoint of him playing in different positions and coming down and blitzing off the edge, yeah, a little different than what Pete [Carroll] had him down there at USC. We'll throw him in the mix and see where he ends up."

ARE YOU LISTENING, KENTWAN BALMER?
Manusky on what he expects to get out of his rookie this season: "I think the most important thing is that when you start to build something, the backup players become better. I think there's not a letdown all of the sudden when someone gets banged up or nicked. The next guy comes in and plays defense. There are no missed heartbeats; you just keep on playing."

SO THREE WEEKS IS TOO MUCH TO ASK?
Manusky on how long it will take Navorro Bowman to grasp the scheme here: "Usually overall, I think the third year of their tenure. I think usually that's when they really figure out the system and figure out what football's all about in regards to the NFL. Usually across the board, three years it takes a lot of players. Some guys do come in and they're athletically gifted and they can play. Some of their mistakes are not seen because they're so athletically gifted."

THE 'MIKE,' OR JUST LIKE MIKE?
Manusky on whether Bowman can be his Mike linebacker: "We'll see. We don't have any pads on right now so we'll look around and see where he fits the best. I don't know what he was taught in college, but for the most part, we're going to see where he fits in the schemes. He's a physical guy. He's got good speed. He has pretty good eyes. We've got to wait and see."

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE PHILLIP ADAMS' EXISTENCE
Manusky assessment of the rookie CB from South Carolina State: "He's a small school guy that came in and has some pretty good feet, pretty good vision. It's the same thing; it's just so early to tell about these kids because for right now, from an illustration point, we only have about that much defense in. The more we pick up, it's going to be a little bit harder."
 
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With every article I read I get more excited for the fall, I might just say fuck it and go into debt for season tickets, and if I do get my hustle down correctly, Ima spend a year following the team around on the road, I will be amazed if I dont get shot.

Back to the return game, any 9er fan had to be pissed off watching our return game last year, I think Arnaz Battle muffed a punt against the Colts early that hurt our chances (although, something was off in the Colt game, I think Peyton threw that one to the mob) Watching Nate Clements, our best CB, return kicks was scary as hell to. Michael Robinson is wack, Battle was just trying to prove he could do something else to extend his stay, we really had no one, I think we cut allen rossum?

I think its a real interesting debate whether we keep Ginn for special teams or line him up at slot, everyone says he cant play WR in the NFL, but he was hella good at Ohio St and if anything that just creates match up problems.

The only concern to me is using one of the other new guys guarantees at least two more fumbles on kick returns this year. Ima realist about things.
 
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Battle stations! Competition at key spots for 49ers.

It's hard to come out of the 49ers weekend rookie minicamp with anything definitive. The main goal of the session was to show the rookies exactly what's expected of them - what condition they need to be in, the pace of practices, etc. - when the full squad meets later this month. One thing that is clear, however, is that the 2010 49ers are more talented than any 49ers team since Steve Mariucci was coach.

"I need to get competition," offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye said when asked what he wanted out of the team's top draft picks. "I think if we get competition at positions - we are on the brink of being a pretty good football team inside-out, theoretically. If we can get competition for positions, and the best guys are in there playing, then we are better as a football team."

So where will the best competition be found when June OTAs and August training camp roll around? Here are my picks:

Strong safety: Acting GM Trent Baalke said recently the 49ers want their starting safeties to be able to play both deep and inside the box. That may be the theory, but Michael Lewis certainly has spent a lot more time along the line of scrimmage in recent years than his counterpart. Lewis is a punishing tackler, but he does not have the speed to be a cover safety. Second-round pick Taylor Mays, meanwhile, not only played free safety in college, he may be the fastest player on the 49ers' roster. (Vernon Davis and Ted Ginn may disagree). That is, it would seem that Mays gives the 49ers the ability to have so-called "mirror" safeties more than Lewis does. Still, Lewis is a smart and savvy veteran; Mays is a rookie. How quickly Mays can get up to speed at the challenging safety position will decide this one. Subplot: Undrafted Chris Maragos will push Reggie Smith for the backup job at free safety.

Right tackle: Make no mistake. Anthony Davis is the favorite to win this battle beginning in Week One, but he won't be handed the job. Adam Snyder was rolling with the first-team offense at right tackle while second-year player Alex Boone already has worked himself into the conversation after transforming his body in the offseason. Raye called Boone's conditioning "tremendous," and the best competition might end up being between Snyder and Boone for the backup spot. Conditioning will be one of the hurdles for Davis. His feet were as quick and impressive as advertised during the rookie minicamp, but he wilted toward the end of each session. He might want to do a few (hundred) gassers between now and the next OTA.

Inside linebacker: Providing Patrick Willis and Takeo Spikes stay healthy, the No. 3 linebacker won't see much action on defense this year. But the No. 3 guy also will be the front runner to replace Spikes, who is entering the final year of his contract. The three candidates are Matt Wilhelm, Scott McKillop and third-round draft pick Navorro Bowman. Defensive coordinator Greg Manusky obviously trusts Wilhelm with the job, and both McKillop and Bowman will have to win over the coaching staff to dislodge Wilhelm from the roster. McKillop was a special teams ace as a rookie, but he wasn't physical enough for Manusky, Mike Singletary and the defensive coaches last season. Bowman's motor and frame, meanwhile, are similar to Willis'. The key question is: Can he hit like Willis? We might not find out until training camp.

OTAs
May 17-20
June 7-8
June 10-11
June 14-16

Mandatory minicamp
June 17-19
 
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Back to the return game, any 9er fan had to be pissed off watching our return game last year, I think Arnaz Battle muffed a punt against the Colts early that hurt our chances (although, something was off in the Colt game, I think Peyton threw that one to the mob) Watching Nate Clements, our best CB, return kicks was scary as hell to. Michael Robinson is wack, Battle was just trying to prove he could do something else to extend his stay, we really had no one, I think we cut allen rossum?

I think its a real interesting debate whether we keep Ginn for special teams or line him up at slot, everyone says he cant play WR in the NFL, but he was hella good at Ohio St and if anything that just creates match up problems.

The only concern to me is using one of the other new guys guarantees at least two more fumbles on kick returns this year. Ima realist about things.
Yeah Rossum was cut due to injuries, the Cowboys picked him up and he got hurt a week later...then was cut again, lol. I think they really want to use Ginn to stretch the field and keep defenses from stacking the box or at least respect his speed enough to not bring in that safety. At this point I don't really care what they try at KR/PR as long as there is some speed back there. It seems like last year every return man was too indecisive by dancing around after catching the ball and once they decided, they were caught after 5-10 yards due to lack of speed. Fumbles of course are not acceptable, I agree...fuck giving the other team the ball on our 25 for a quick 7.
 
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so what do you guys think will be the face of the starting formation for offense?
will we be double tight, I formation, 3wr or even 4wr spread?
any opinions? heres mine

crabs--------staley-iupati-baas-rachal-davis-davis-------ginn--------morgan

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its just my opinion i really think our weakness is heitmann i have heard that baas could challenge him for the starting role not saying anything other than unless heitmann improved over the off season it could be baas doing the snapping to smith. and this formation that i put out there probably wont be the one we go with since we are a smash mouth team so it will probably be i formation? whatcha think???
 
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so what do you guys think will be the face of the starting formation for offense?
will we be double tight, I formation, 3wr or even 4wr spread?
any opinions? heres mine

crabs--------staley-iupati-baas-rachal-davis-davis-------ginn--------morgan

--------------------------smith gore


its just my opinion i really think our weakness is heitmann i have heard that baas could challenge him for the starting role not saying anything other than unless heitmann improved over the off season it could be baas doing the snapping to smith. and this formation that i put out there probably wont be the one we go with since we are a smash mouth team so it will probably be i formation? whatcha think???
Baas isnt a Center, or a decent Guard for that matter. Heitmann is actually one of our solid lineman that we haven't had to worry about, Bass will be cut after this season I think.


--Correction--Baas played Center in college but hasn't played it with Niners.
 
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Baas isnt a Center, or a decent Guard for that matter. Heitmann is actually one of our solid lineman that we haven't had to worry about, Bass will be cut after this season I think.
there was an article i read where they said that baas would be competing to play center and as far as heitman being solid i dont know alot of the pass rush was coming right up the middle but then again that could have been the garbage play of an inexperienced guard and a guard with slow feet
 
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Baas faces huge challenge -- literally -- at left guard

Yesterday, I looked at three soon-to-be- offseason competitions: safety, right tackle and inside linebacker. Here are three more ...

Guard. You might say the true competition is at left guard where David Baas will try to hold off first-round draft pick Mike Iupati. But if Iupati were to supplant Baas - and I fully expect he will - you have to wonder about the repercussions. First let's talk about Iupati. Both acting GM Trent Baalke and offensive line coach Mike Solari described Iupati as special, the type of guard who only comes along every few years. Iupati is massive, he moves that bulk like a man who weighs 250 pounds and he's comfortable at left guard. All that seems like a very bad omen for Baas, a former 33rd overall pick who had trouble cracking the starting lineup when he first arrived with the 49ers and who has dealt with injuries in recent years. Baas also is playing on a one-year contract.

But if Baas is dislodged, it might put pressure on two other positions. (This is what Jimmy Raye was anticipating when he said that intra-squad competition breeds success). Baas also has played right guard in the NFL and center in college. The 49ers fully expect Chilo Rachal to blossom in his third year, but he was inconsistent last year. Having Baas on the bench puts more pressure on Rachal. It also will be interesting to see whether Baas snaps the ball this offseason. He played center - and played well - his senior season at Michigan. Eric Heitmann is the unquestioned starter at center. But there are question marks about his backup, Cody Wallace.

Meanwhile, here's what Rachal recently told 49ers.com about his mindset this season: "It's more serious now, because I know what to do and now I just have to do it versus last year. In the beginning, I wasn't playing at a high level but towards the end I picked it up and started playing good ball. I just have to use what I did at the end of last season to continue to get better and not have the same season this year. I want to make last year my worst season."

Return man - Only one under-contract player returned punts in the recent OTA/minicamp. That player was undrafted CB/WR LeRoy Vann. If he dropped an attempt, I must not have been looking. Nevada running back Brandon Fragger also tried his hand at punt returns, but obviously was not as comfortable as Vann. Fragger has not received a contract offer. As I wrote last week, Ted Ginn Jr. certainly is an option as a return man, but the team wants him to concentrate on his receiver duties. The more he excels in that area, the less he will take part on special teams.

The other option is sixth-round draft pick Kyle Williams, who pulled a hamstring in the Friday afternoon session and sat out Saturday. Williams was walking without a limp on Saturday, and the hamstring injury doesn't appear to be severe. Still, my experience with young receivers and injuries is that A.) Most rookie receivers come down with a sprain or strain at some point. B.) When that happens to newcomers, they quickly fall behind and it's impossible to catch up. Just ask Jason Hill and Brandon Jones.

Outside linebacker. On Friday, I asked Mike Singletary about free-agent linebacker Adalius Thomas, someone the 49ers were very interested in during free agency three years ago. Singletary, who coached Thomas in Baltimore, acknowledged that past interest but said he was content with the OLBs the 49ers have on the roster right now. Those linebackers are Parys Haralson, Manny Lawson, Ahmad Brooks and Travis LaBoy. Diyral Briggs, Martail Burnett and Brandon Long provide depth.

The best 3-4 defenses in recent years - Baltimore and Pittsburgh - have had a steady rotation at outside linebacker, and I expect that will be the case with the 49ers. With Lawson absent Friday morning, LaBoy seemed to get most of the snaps at strong-side outside linebacker. It was only one abbreviated, non-contact practice, but LaBoy, a defensive end early in his career, definitely showed the agility of a linebacker. Lawson, meanwhile, is in the final year of his contract and wants an extension. One can only assume that he has stayed away from the voluntary OTAs to this point for fear of getting injured. The 49ers won't have a mandatory session until June 17-19.

-- Matt Barrows