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The following is a chapter from P. N. Oak's book World Vedic Heritage.



KRISHNA – THE UNIVERSAL DEITY


In Vedic tradition Rama and Krishna are revered as incarnations. Since in ancient times Vedic culture was a universal faith, Krishna was as reverently worshipped in the rest of the world as He is in India.

In pre-Christian times the temples of Vedic deities such as Vishnu, Shiva, the Mother Goddess, Rama, Hanuman, and Krishna used to abound in all religions of the world. Evidence of this is found in the works of ancient authors such as Megasthenes, Strabo and Herodotus. All those names are of Vedic origin too. The term Megasthenes is Megh-Sthan-eesh i.e. the Lord of the Region of the Clouds i.e. the skies. The name Herodotus is Hari-dootus i.e. Messenger of God. In fact the Muslim term Paigambar is the Islamic equivalent of the Greek Herodotus.

Herodotus has recorded, “I made a voyage to Tyra in Phoenicia hearing there was a temple of Hercules at that place very highly venerated. I visited the temple and found it.” (P. 136, Vol. 1, Herodotus)

Herodotus himself was a devout Hindu alias Vedist. There is nothing surprising about this because in his time people were generally very devout and there was nothing except Vedic culture throughout the world. The temple of Hercules he visited was obviously that of Krishna alias Chrisn because Hari-cul-eesh is a Sanskrit term signifying ‘an incarnation of the line of Hari i.e. Vishnu’. And Krishna is indeed regarded as the 8th incarnation.

In Vedic tradition Krishna is known by various names. Consequently even in Europe Krishna was known by different names. His name Chrisn was spelled as Christ and His famous discourse (the Bhagawad Geeta) was described as Chrisn-nity i.e. the sermon preached or advocated by Chrisn. It is that term Chrisn-nity which is being misunderstood and misinterpreted as Christ-nity alias Christianity. More information on this point appears in several other contexts in this volume.

Krishna in Holland

In Amsterdam, (in Holland) the biggest hotel is named after Lord Krishna, as Krisnapolsky.

Even the term Amsterdam is the Sanskrit word Antardham i.e. a region below (sea-level). The term Netherlands has the same meaning as Antardham. Consequently, Antardham alias Amsterdam and Netherlands alias Anetherland are synonyms. Both are Sanskrit.

Krishna in Spain

In Spain the promontory near Cadiz has been known since ancient times as sacred land because according to Strabo it had many temples of Rhadamanthus (P. 253, Vol. 1, Strabo’s Geography). That term is the Sanskrit compound (some Sanskrit letters I can’t type) meaning the God residing in the heart of Radha. In the Krishna lore Radha an elderly lady had great filial affection for the orphaned, cute, naughty child Krishna. Their affection is legendary. Consequently Krishna is also known as the Lord who resided in Radha’s heart. That was, therefore, one of Krishna’s popular epithets in Europe too. Consequently a number of temples of Rhadamanthus find a mention in Greek tradition. They were temples of Krishna. Likewise temples of Hercules also signified temples of Krishna. In India too temples of Krishna are known after various names of Lord Krishna.

Albert J. Edmunds observes, “Strabo considered all Asia as far as India to be consecrated to Bacchus where Hercules and Bacchus are called Kings of the East. The last religions of Babylon and Egypt were born there. Even the Greeks and the Romans were debtors thereto for the cult of Bacchus and Mithras.” (P. 44, Buddhist and Christian Gospels, by Albert J. Edmunds, the Yukwan Publishing House, Tokyo 1905 A.D.)

That extract indicates that according to Strabo all Asia worshipped Bacchus i.e. Trymbakesh i.e. Lord Shiv. He also tells us that Hercules (i.e. Krishna) and Bacchus (i.e. Lord Shiva) were known as kings i.e. supreme deities of the East. Since the religions of Babylon and Egypt were also born in Asia, those two countries also practiced Vedic culture. And since Greeks and Romans too observed the cults of the worship of Bacchus (i.e. Shiv) and Mithras (i.e. the Sun) it is obvious that the whole world followed Vedic culture because all the divinities mentioned above are Vedic deities.

An ancient Greek author’s name is Onesicritus. Obviously that is Om Srikrishnas.

Since Hari alias God Krishna was the guardian deity of the Greeks they greet one another with the words ‘Hari Tu Tay’ i.e. “May Hari look after you” or “bless you”.

What are currently believed to be Christian traditions are ancient Essenese practices. H. Spencer Lewis observes, “In recent years the Dead Sea scrolls have confirmed the author’s reference to the Essenese and their secret teachings which preceded Christianity…..The sect possessed years before Christ, a terminology and practice that have always been considered uniquely Christian. The Essenese practiced baptism and shared a liturgical breakfast of bread and wine presided over by a priest.” (P. 31, The Secret Doctrines of Jesus, by H. Spencer Lewis, Supreme Grand Lodge of AMORC, San Jose, California, 1972)

Eshan being the Sanskrit name of Lord Shiva the Essenese were Vedists who worshipped Lord Shiva. Since Christianity has adopted all Essenese practices, as mentioned above, Christianity is merely a deceptive separatist label.
 
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Vatican has Hidden Vedic Records

In order to justify its Christian character all ancient Vedic records of the Vatican were hurriedly hidden away or destroyed on the day that Emperor Constantine’s troops swooped on the Vatican around 312 A.D.

We get an inkling of it in H. Spencer Lewis’ book, though the author himself divulges that information, unwittingly and without understanding its implication himself since he writes as a devout believer. He states –

“Unquestionably the Holy Roman Church has preserved in its secret archives in Rome or elsewhere many sacred manuscripts….There is considerable evidence to indicate that within its sealed vaults inaccessible to all but a very few are certain original documents… Some other rare documents preserved in the Vatican or within the walls of Vatican city are copies of original documents and records which are preserved in archives outside of the control of the Holy Roman Church. In other places, fortified archives of great antiquity, are preserved other documents and records, and in the secret archives of several monastic orders of a non-sectarian nature are preserved other documents and records, open to occasional examination by competent authorities….. To believe that the creators of the Holy Roman Church made no exhaustive study of the manuscripts and records in their possession, or which they had agents searching for in every land, is to ignore the fact that their own records of their council discussions and debates reveal how carefully they weighed every reference. Year after year, century after century, these debates continued, and the records of them clearly show that the councilors had before them many rare records which they officially proclaimed as either ‘incompetent’, dangerous, secret or contradictory to the principle of Christian theology which they were gradually establishing ….The matter of the selection of the manuscripts constituting the Books of the Bible offers an excellent picture of how these high councils arbitrarily chose and rejected authentic and reliable sources of information at their disposal.” (Pp. 225-227, ibid)

We have highlighted some words in the above extract to draw readers’ attention to the manipulation and secrecy that is associated with the ancient records of the so-called Christian headquarters namely the Vatican. If the Vatican is hiding some records could it still be considered Holy? If even a so-called religious organization has something to hide like the headquarters of a political party or the office of a criminal gang why should the first one be considered holier than the other two? And the very fact that the Vatican has hidden certain documents (and also obviously idols, manuscripts, Vedic liturgic material and inscriptions) and rejected some as dangerous, secret and incompetent one may safely assume that some other documents may have been concocted and forged too.

From the above it is clear that Christianity has a lot of things to hide about its origin. This is a clear case of suppresio veri and suggestio falsi. This is true of Islam too because both Islam and Christianity originate in violence. Their aim was political dominance and military suppression of all opposition. Consequently both Christianity and Islam were spread with military might; Christianity by the Roman legions, and Islam by Arab, Iranian and Turkish hordes.

In another book of his, H. Spencer Lewis has unwittingly supplied evidence which goes to prove that the Essenese were Hindus i.e. Vedists. He observes, “Every member of the Essenese in Egypt or Palestine had to be a pure-blooded descendant of the Aryan race.” (P. 28, The Mystical Life of Jesus, by H. Spencer Lewis, Supreme Grand Lodge of AMORC, San Jose, California 1953)

We have explained elsewhere in this volume that Arya is not a racial term. An Aryan is a follower of Vedic culture, one who leads a life according to Vedic rules and ideals. Consequently the Essenese were Aryans i.e. Vedists. That is why they derived their name from Eshan i.e. Lord Shiv.

The same author adds, “Immediately upon initiation, each member adopted a robe of white composed of one piece of material, and he wore sandals.” (P. 29, ibid)

This is precisely the Vedic practice. Therefore, people known as Aryans, Essenese, Samaritans, Stoics, Saduceans, Romans, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Jews, Arabs, Chinese etc. etc. were all Hindus i.e. followers of a common universal Vedic culture before they were forcibly drawn into other coercive sects and religions.

Spencer Lewis adds, “It became well known about then that their word was equal to any agreement or contract in writing.” (P. 35, ibid)

This principle of sticking to one’s words and telling the truth and nothing but the truth is a well known Vedic tenet and ideal. Rama is known for fulfilling every word of His. In Sanskrit the word ‘Vachan’ means a statement and also a promise because Sanskrit, Vedic tradition assumes that every word uttered by a person has the same force and validity as a promise.

Krishna Worship

Spencer Lewis’ book mentioned above carries on page 135 the sketch of a holy child wearing a crown, with the caption “research has revealed that a similar statue of a holy child was exhibited on Christmas Day in many lands before the Christian era.”

The above sentence has a streak of unintended humor. How could there be a Christmas Day before Christ? Yet the author’s statement is valuable evidence which seems to have been lost on Spencer Lewis himself. Since he talks of a Christmas Day long before Christ, obviously that was Chrisnmas Day i.e. a particular day reserved for Krishna’s alias Chrisn’s worship in the month i.e. ‘mas’ named after Him. The termination ‘mas’ is Sanskrit, meaning a month.

The only Holy child wearing a crown, whose statue used to be displayed on Christmas Day before Jesus, was Krishna. Consequently even the statue of Jesus is only an unhistorical, proselytized substitute for child Krishna’s statue. That is why the scene and setting of Christ’s birth is identical with that of Krishna’s birth.

The crown too is an important detail. Jesus is never known to have worn any crown (even in his fictitious career) except one of thorns. But Krishna is invariably shown wearing a golden crown. This too proves that the statue of a holy child wearing a crown, exhibited on Christmas Day before Jesus, was that of Chrisn (alias Krishna).

On page 82 of his book Spencer Lewis has published a picture of a cobra, adding “The Serpent was used as a mythical symbol in the early, sacred writings of various schools of religion. The Serpent was also the emblem of the Holy Ghost.”

At the time of the creation Lord Vishnu is shown reclining on the coils of a multi-hooded cobra.

The episode of Krishna diving into the Yamuna river to subdue the fierce, hostile cobra (named Kaliya) forms an important event in Krishna’s life-story. Likewise the multi-hooded cobra serves as the canopied pedestal of most Vedic deities. Also the Vedic Yoga system characterizes the spinal cord from its base at the waist to the cerebrum as the serpentine energy animating the individual.

Such multifarious significance of the cobra in Vedic tradition has no base in Christian lore. Yet if the cobra legend survives in Christian tradition that is because Christianity is only a misleading shell. Its kernel is all Vedic. Both Christianity and Islam are hijacked, fossilized branches of Vedic culture.

That the term Christ is only an alternative pronunciation of the name Chrisn is obvious from Spencer Lewis’ observation that “the word or title Christos had been used in the mystery schools and in the Orient for the name and title of many of the former Avatars. Christos originally came from the name of one of the Egyptian deities. There was old Hermes, whose name has been corrupted or translated into “Hiram of Tyre”. The Egyptian letter or dipthong ‘KH’ is a highly aspirated ‘H’ and by the Greeks is usually transcribed as X, and vice versa. The value of the Greek X is usually transcribed as ‘Ch’. The KHeru of the Egyptians would be therefore ‘Cheru’ or ‘CH-R’. These latter letters form the famous ‘XP’ of the early Christians, which I personally saw and traced on several stones of the tombs in the Catacombs of Rome.” (P. 156, ibid)

The author clearly admits that Christos (i.e. Chrisn) was the name of many of the former avatars i.e. incarnations. Those incarnations were all part of the earlier worldwide Vedic culture.

Krishna in Egypt

Similarly we are informed that the Christos alias Chrisn incarnation was also an Egyptian deity. He was known as Hermes and Hiram. The Sanskrit term Hari-eesh i.e. ‘Hari the God’ survives in western tradition slightly distorted as Hermes and Hiram.

We are also told that the Egyptian syllable ‘Kheru’ alias ‘Chr’ is written as ‘X’ in Greek. This is a very important point. It clearly proves that ‘X’ is the Greek letter which represents the Sanskrit syllable ‘Chr’ in the name Chrisn. This is further corroborated by the fact that ‘Christmas’ is written as ‘X’ mas apparently because ‘X’ in Greek stands for the Sanskrit syllable ‘Chr’ in the name Chrisn (alias ‘Krh’ and ‘KHrsn’). It follows therefore that Christmas alias ‘X’ mas is a festival commemorating Chrisn, alternatively pronounced as Christ. Consequently Christmas alias Chrisnmas should be appropriately celebrated with discourses on the Bhagawad Geeta and Krishna and not on a mythical Jesus Christ.

That the Egyptian Krishtos (alias Krishna or Chrisn) was the same as the Indian Krishna is apparent from a footnote on page 90 of the book titled, The Celtic Druids by Godfrey Higgins saying, “In the French War, the British sepoys on their arrival from India at ancient Thebes in Egypt, found their God Krishna, and instantly fell to worshipping…..”
 
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Greece too worshipped the same deity Krishna. Their letter ‘X’ stands for the first syllable ‘Kri’ of the Sanskrit name Krishna. The other letter ‘P’ in the XP monogram of the early Christians stands for ‘Purushottam’ i.e. the best among men as Krishna was known. Thus the fancied symbol XP stands for the Vedic deity Chrisn Purushottam.

The mythical Christ is known as the Son of God precisely because the term Christ is a misnomer for Chrisn who was God Himself come down in human form as a son of Vasudeva and Devaki. Even the term Christian-ity is the Sanskrit term Chrisnan-ity meaning followers of Chrisn.

Krishna in Iraq

Krishna playing the flute appears on postal stamps of Iraq, commemorating the 1979 Mosual Spring Festival. Similarly huge portraits of Lord Krishna also appear on rear windows of some public buses in Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. In the same postal stamp series is included the picture of an octagonal building which obviously is an ancient Krishna temple currently known as the Dome on the Rock in Jerusalem. Baghdad itself is named after Bhagwan (Krishna) as Bhagavad (Nagar) i.e. Krishna City.

Krishna in Mecca

The precincts of the Kaaba in Mecca are known as Haram because prior to being captured in the name of Islam the Kaba was Hariyam i.e. a temple of Hari alias Vishnu alias Krishna.

Krishna in Jerusalem

The term Jerusalem itself spelled earlier as Yerushaleim alias Yedu-ishalayam (as explained elsewhere in this volume) signifies a township of Lord Krishna. Likewise the term Israel is Iswaralaya i.e. the abode of God (Krishna). The term Bethlehem and Nazareth too originate in the Krishna legend.

Krishna in Islam

The term Isalayam (i.e. the House of God) is a Sanskrit word referring to Krishna. And the fancied Muslim epithet ‘Karim’ is an attribute of Krishna as advocating incessant altruistic ‘Karma’ i.e. dedicated action in His Bhagawad Geeta discourse.

Krishna Tradition of Syria

The term Syria is the Sanskrit word ‘Suriya’ i.e. a region of ‘Sura’ i.e. God. That God was Lord Krishna. All the gods are referred to as ‘Sura’ in Vedic tradition. Therefore Krishna was a Sura. That is why His clan, the Yadavas (i.e. Judaists) when forced to leave their disturbed Dwarka homeland after the Mahabharat war migrated to Syria.

Christianity

It has already been explained in several contexts in this volume that the entire Christian tradition is Krishna tradition.

Chrisn in Russia

The Russian Siberia has a city name Krsnoyarak which still commemorates Lord Krishna.

Krishna in Japan

Japan’s postal department has also issued a stamp depicting Lord Krishna playing the flute obviously because Chrisn used to be worshipped in ancient Hindu Japan.

Krishna in Europe

Temples of Krishna abounded in Europe from Russia to Spain. A large mosaic of Lord Krishna playing the flute, standing under a tree, in His characteristic cross-legged pose, while grazing cows hangs in the museum in Corinth. It is ignorantly captioned merely as ‘A pastoral scene’ that has not been identified as of Lord Krishna though it should have been so identified. That lays bare the shortcomings of European archaeology. Krishna idols in various temples of Europe were known as Rhadamanthus, Hercules, Christ, Hiram, Hermes, etc. Those are malpronunciations of Sanskrit names as explained earlier.

All such evidence proves that Krishna has been universally worshipped and consequently His Bhagawad Geeta has been universally studied and recited before the Bible and the Koran tried to supplant it.

Lord Krishna – The God of Jews

Though the Jews have lost contact with their guardian deity, Lord Krishna amidst their wanderings over several countries for over 5000 years it was Krishna who was their God. John M. Allegro observes, “The corpus of Hebrew moral and religious legislation, set in a framework of ancient mythology, was endued with a mystic aura of sanctity. It was the very word of God, almost God Himself together with the temple as the seat of the God fount of all interpretative inspiration. It formed the focus of worship and the directive power of post-exile Judaism.” (P. 10, The Chosen People, by John M. Allegro, Granada Publishing Ltd, Park Street, St Albans, Herts, 1973)

The idol in the Dome of the Rock temple of Jerusalem was that of Lord Krishna besides the rock itself representing Lord Shiva. Such Vedic temples have been traditionally very rich because they served as sacred reserves of national wealth constantly added to by a devout and philanthropic public so that it may not be squandered on vices. That wealth used to be the chief support of all essential services provided free by the State to its subjects. It was a kind of a national kitty kept growing in value because under the Vedic administration everybody was trained to lead an abstemious and disciplined life, constantly contributing his extra earnings to temple treasuries which were national reservoirs of wealth. Consequently during historical upheavals such temples became targets of enemy-action and the idol too got defaced or destroyed. Describing one such assault Allegro observes, “When returning from a successful invasion of Egypt, Antiochus replenished his failing coffers en route by looting the Jerusalem temple to the extent even of stripping the gold leaf from its façade.” (P. 20, ibid)

On page 29 of the same book the author records “the names of the patriarchal heroes, as that of God Himself are non-Semitic…..and go back to the earliest known civilization in the near east, indeed of the world.”

That is a very important observation because it clearly states that the names of the Jewish deity were non-Semitic and that they emanated from the oldest civilization in the near East. Obviously that was the Vedic culture of India.

Thus Krishna as the 8th Vedic incarnation has been a universal deity. The universality of Krishna proves the universality of Vedic civilization. This realization should induce archaeologists to review their findings during the last few-centuries and rearrange them regionwise in a graded time-schedule to redraw the contours of the world Vedic civilization.

Bhagawad Geeta in Ancient Europe

Since ancient Europe practiced Vedic culture all Sanskrit scriptures such as the Vedas, Upanishads, the Ramayan, Mahabharat, and also the Ayurved and architectural treatises used to be avidly studied and taught throughout Europe. We have adduced evidence about the study of the Vedas, Ramayan etc. elsewhere in this volume. Hereunder we would refer to the noting of an ancient Greek writer Hippolytus proving that the Bhagawad Geeta did form a part of the cultural and spiritual life of ancient Europeans.

According to Hippolytus, Basilides taught this (Haer VII. 14 Edinburgh translation) that “The Gospel came (says Basilides) first from the Sonship through the son that was seated beside the Archon, to the Archon, and the Archon learned that he was not god of the universe but was begotten. But he was above himself the deposited treasure of that ineffable and unnamable non-existent one, and of that sonship he was both converted and filled with terror, when he was brought to understand in what ignorance (he) was involved. This he says, is what has been declared, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. For being orally instructed by Christ (i.e. Chrisn) who was seated near, he began to acquire wisdom (inasmuch as he thereby) learns who is the Non-existent One, what the sonship (is), and what the Holy Spirit (is), what the apparatus of the universe (is), and what is likely to be the consummation of things. This is the wisdom spoken in a mystery, concerning which (says Basilides) scripture uses the following expression. ‘Not in words taught of human wisdom, but in (those) taught of the Spirit.’ The Archon then being orally instructed, and taught, and being (thereby) filled with fear, proceeded to make confession concerning the Sin which he had committed in magnifying himself, this, he says, is what he declared: “I have recognized my sin, and I know my transgression, and about this I shall confess forever.” (the above extract is taken from pages 40 to 47 of Buddhist and Christian Gospels, by Albert J. Edmunds, the Yukwan Publishing House, Tokyo, 1905 A.D.)

Archon is Arjun. He was seated in a chariot beside Lord Chrisn who was driving it. It was then that Lord Chrisn delivered His famous sermon. Arjun confessed being mistaken. All this indicates that Geeta was not only studied in Europe but that all the so-called Christian jargon about Christ (i.e. Chrisn) being a son of God and about the so-called Sermon on the Mount – is nothing but a mere and sheer proselytizing of the Hindu Chrisn legend.
 
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this thread reminds me of that gay ass movie my greek weding where her dad is always trying to say the greeks invented everything and using the spellings of different words to interperet thier heritage using similarly spelled greek words.
 
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Yes bro I can elaborate but before I do I have several questions I would like to ask you.

1. Can you read what you posted from an unbiased view?

2. Have you researched anything found in the body of your posts?
I understand the author comes down pretty harsh on Islam and Christianity. I don't necessarily agree with his tactics. But before I even heard of this author I had an understanding of Vedic culture in various places in the world beside India. I just decided to throw this out there and see what people had to say about it. If you want to address some points specifically, I am eager to hear them.
 
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this thread reminds me of that gay ass movie my greek weding where her dad is always trying to say the greeks invented everything and using the spellings of different words to interperet thier heritage using similarly spelled greek words.
See, what the author of this book chapter has over this guy from this movie is that the Sanskrit language predates Greek. Some etymologists consider Sanskrit to be the 'mother language'. Others say that it may have been an earlier form of Sanskrit. Also it is one thing to have a word in one language be spelled or sound similar to a word in some other language, but it is another thing for those words to have very similar meanings. For instance, the word 'cirriculum' comes from the Sanskrit word 'gurukulam', which is a school. Not only do the words sound the same, they also have similar meanings. If this isn't obvious, I don't know what is.
 
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I'm also having a difficult time finding any information on generally accepted world history that doesn't assume and support the Aryan invasion myth and the notion that "Aryan" is a race of light-skin people. Although author P. N. Oak doesn't give detailed support for everything he asserts in this chapter, there is so much evidence suggesting Vedic history to be fact. For example, google some information on the Pakistani cities, Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa and the radioactivity found there. Then consider the ancient Mahabharat text that describes a devastating weapon that causes people to get sick and hair and nails to fall out. Or there is always the recent uncoverings of an ancient port city off the coast of Mahabalipuram. This is actually the city Dwaraka described in Vedic texts as having been swallowed by the ocean.


Here's something to look at:

Death of the Aryan Invasion

And:

Recent Archaeological Findings Confirming Vedic History