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Friend, I have explained this. Hip-Hop--Black Music. Black people--Most religious in the country. Is there something you don't get about removing religion from hip-hop that might very well constitute an Anti-Black agenda?
like i said, "most religous in the country" can be an arguable point (one im not intrested in getting into with you) i think your beginning to feel threatend that i can articulate my opinion and uncover the obvious without pissing people off so u need to find other wayz to slander me and find a following.. your expecting black folk to come on here and back you up with "YEAH TROLL, U DONT BELIEVE IN GOD SO U MUST BE RACIST TOOO!!" LMAOOOO good luck with that "attack"


Dirty Shoez said:
Blacks are not being good little sheep and rejecting God and Christianity, so here you come to try to confuse and ridicule those representatives of the poorest Black communities--the great majority of Rappers--that are fucking up your plans for Worldwide Atheism. Or since you're going to hate that and nit pick and hold up the Wicca god as your basis--Non-ChristiJudaiIslam-ism.
u obviously have learned nothing about my beliefs.. maybe u should take this time to do your own research.. your calling black folk sheep now huh? OOOOPS was that a freuidian slip?? did u just have an epiphany of how that religon works?? sorry bro, but your trying too paint this portrait of me being the curly moustached athiest/wiccan villain trying too take over the world one rapper at a time HAHAHAHAHHA


Dirty Shoez said:
This is what you want. This is what you'll never get. This is what you will not even make progress towards. You fail on all accounts.
yup.. i guess.. SHUCKS.. back to picking on the amish i guess LOLLLL u need to get over yourself..


Dirty Shoez said:
My blackness has never been in question. On the other hand, I really do hope YOU'RE Black, sitting here and trying to argue the use of the word Nigga with me, notwithstanding the fact I was quoting a song lyric. http://www.go2lyrics.com/N/Nas/92537.html -- A good album...I'm suprised you haven't heard it :hurt:
Nah, dont listen to Nas.. so i guess u are black then? ive seen a pic and thought u looked more hispanic.. but no. im not black and i thought niether were u..


Dirty Shoez said:
Cheap shot at my music, eh? And to think--I've been taking it easy on you, taking pity on you for being such weak, uninspiring competition.
i guess if u hop into a thread thinking u see competition other then an individual expressing there opinions, u have a loonnggg way to go buddy... i thought maybe u were a wrestling fan scince u like to hop into every thread and play the role of the heel but im begining to think your more delusional then anything... with a tad paranoid thinking the evil athiests and pagans are out too stamp out another relgion...


Dirty Shoez said:
Another time...your opinion on this matter means shit. You do not know what you are talking about. "God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap..." -- This quote alone from you is Game, Set, Match.
i also think pizza hut has the best pizza.. care too argue that also? or how about pepsi is better then coca cola? game, set, match LOLLLL ive made my point, people understand it and feel it.. so i guess if you call this "game" in your head without having a single person come and back you on that then go ahead kid,.. U win... does that make u feel better?



Dirty Shoez said:
Maybe you ought to go somewhere else, and give your `opinion' (as if, in the real world, some are not better than others) on legos or snack cakes or something you actually know about.
nah, im perfectly fine expressing my opnions on here and i love watching the closet conservative minded folx jump all over it.. maybe u should quit rapping and stick to convincing the siccness that you ARENT full of shit by making more threads dedicated to yourself... :dead:


Dirty Shoez said:
Who the fuck cares about what you have "always thought"? If you have a problem with what i said, show me the URL. Provide some links to information that speaks to the contrary. Get off your ass and do the work.
so black folx are the majority now? wow.. when did that happen?


Dirty Shoez said:
Dude, most of them ARE racist, whether they realize it or not. For one, the overwhelming majority of them are racist against White people, though they like to lie about it and say "I have lots of White friends", or talk about how they "talk to Whites all the time", etc etc. Nothing but token White friends and associates they have and utilize to hide their deep-seated racism and hate message.
HUH???? so most athiests/satanists/wiccans and pagans are racists cuz they hate white people?? wtf??? u really kno squat about what your talking about HAHAHA

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You describe yourself as "brown", and I can't help but wonder if you are among this type. What does "brown" even mean, sir? We are speaking on Race here. Offer up yours so we might see what perspective exactly you are coming from.
im hispanic/nativeamerican/spanish/irish and italian.. i put brown cuz thats the most prelavent as i have both grandparents that are and the rest are ancestorial. if thats a word.. who the fuck iz askin??really. now offer up yourz
 

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TROLL said:
God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap...
I would have agreed with this statement at one point in my life,

Dirty Shoez said:
The truth is that there is no choice to be had. Life is what you make it, nigga. These rappers choose to make their art about whatever they want,
but this is more in tune with what I believe today.
Rappers, like the rest of us, have a set of beliefs and often times these beliefs conflict with eachother. So if a rapper talks about misogyny on one track and religion on another, I don't hold that against him. I just look at is as being the way we (humans) are, full of inconsistency and contradiction.
 

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Listen to that Devin the Dude track in the open forum and then listen to some of his other cuts. This will give you an idea of what I mean.
 
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PGBD said:
but this is more in tune with what I believe today.
Rappers, like the rest of us, have a set of beliefs and often times these beliefs conflict with eachother. So if a rapper talks about misogyny on one track and religion on another, I don't hold that against him. I just look at is as being the way we (humans) are, full of inconsistency and contradiction.
see that makes more sense..i can understand how a persons beliefs conflict with eachother at times, and like i said i dont hold it against anyone if they feel that way.. it must be hard for a person to kno they are contradicting themselves.. im familiar with us having inconsistency tho, well articulated.. :cool:
 
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Had this sitting on my university folder, incomplete until now....oops.

TROLL said:
i seperated ur "chunks" so they're more easily understood and my points were more clear as to what i was refering too.. ive been on this board for quite a while and have had plenty of these "debates"
Not in the GOM you haven't. This place is very different.

Quote wars are still quote wars. If you are unable to ignore things that are of no consequence, and feel compelled to respond to every last character that the other person typed.....that is all on you. There is nothing clear about muddling up conversations with long-winded diatribes about how Quote Wars are a waste of time.

u brought up the content and validity of lyrrics when that wasnt what the thread was about...
It is so much about it, it isn't even funny.

"... THE PROBLEM IS EVERYONE WANTS TO THANK GOD FOR THIS SO CALLED GIVEN ABILITY AND THEN FLIP IT AROUND AND SLANDER EACH OTHA, CURSE, SEXUAL IMMORAILITY ..."

This 'given ability' that is being spoken about, is the art of Rapping, with the broader implication of those who support rappers.

Lyrics have everything to do with this. I am sorry you cannot see that.

ok... and???
Ok, and that means that saying Rappers cannot curse and be Christians, is about as ignorant as saying you can't Write movies that include rape or murder and be Christian. It makes no sense whatsoever. I am explaining to you the reason why rappers rap in the 1st person, and why ignorant people hold them to a different standard because of it. I am explaining why they cannot rationally be held to a different standard because the medium itself compels one to speak in such a manner.

Try to understand this.

i wasnt argueing that its pervasive..i stated my opinion that if a rapper makes an entire cd about preaching then it should be labeled as christian rap.. lol
Lol!! Not really.

"God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap..."

Well, unless you want to take ^^^^ this statement back and admit you were wrong.

can u give me examples of where i have done this??
Summarily.

"if a rapper feelz hes done his holy duty by giving a shot out to jesus in a 2 bar sentence then follow that song with one called "fuck a bitch" then he can turn his blind eye to his own contradiction all he wants.."

This is demeaning. You are someone who is not a Christian, who has no basis for what he is saying, (which indeed are 2 separate things), and yet labeling what a God-Fearing Rapper may choose to do with his artwork as a "contradiction".

Creating a false choice? so your basically saying that its not hypocritical too have a god-loving bible preaching song followed by a song that does exactly what the bible preaches against? i think it is.. but like i stated before, thats the artists decision, if he felt morally content with that then more power to him!!
If you think it is, then good for you. But you should not label contradiction something that results from your own ignorance of the situation.

It is one thing for a preacher to preach, and then go hire a hooker. It is another thing entirely for a man to praise Allah, and then rap a song that contains shadier elements.

AND no agenda, lol u think im on an anti-god crusade or something, thats the same type of attitude and accusation that had many innocent people killed decades ago.. I havent made any statement that hasnt been of my own opinion.. if YOU feel threatend that i speak my mind so freely maybe u should consider a job in politics, i think you would be good at that...
Threatened....Lol. By what exactly? Your presistence? Your perseverence? Certainly it isn't your knowledge and expertise.

U asked me once before about my own beliefs and what they were about and i gave u the best description i could and even refered some links and books.. if its considered "bullshit" because u dont believe it then that can be said about many other religions u dont follow..that previous thread had about 4 people asking me more about the subject and i did the same thing, refered them to places where they could make there own determination so I wouldnt be a factor in the decision they make.. AS far as credentials go, i kno what im talking about.. even belial and i can put our calle beef to the side to discuss our beliefs..
Good for you and Belial.

Just because something is bullshit doesn't mean there isn't a lot of info out there about it, esp. to laugh at and ridicule. Look at William Hung or The Runaway Bride.

"(insert religion here)? Aren't those the dumb motherfuckers who think the earth was created by a giant turtle?" -- These are the quotes we wish to fill. I personally don't give a rats ass about Wicca. I just want some punchlines.


lol u starting to sound like edj.. but anyway, if u can find ties between "funny" and "ironic" with "perverted" and "unorthodox" have u ever stopped and considered that YOUR the one whos reading to much into things? NOOOO couldnt possibly be that.. ur always right... right???
Well...pretty much, yeah. I'm not always right, but on a curve, I am.

If you can't see the logical and linguistical ties between 'funny' and 'unorthodox' or 'perverted'.....I don't know what to say. The educational system verily has failed you.

good for you... :cheeky:
Friend, I am letting you know these things because they matter and I don't want you to look uninformed or simple.

"i still have a hard time finding the justification for only using the parts of the bible that claim to be most beneficial but ignoreing the rest of it.. i guess thats how u cope with itz contradictions i guess.. "

In the first place, I'm not a Christian, and in the second, I hardly ever use the Bible for anything, though I have openly challenged people to find errors in the Quran, and speak on it with the quickness.

Engaging me as the a typical Christian, offended by your pagan worship yet perfectly comfortable with the Bible's numerous flaws.....not going to work. You're going to have to try harder than that.

No.. i wasnt trying to say that "Rappers are not and cannot be Christians, unless they specifically rap about Christ and being a Christian." thats an assumption based on your own selfish agenda and we all know where assumptions can lead too..
There is nothing of an assumption about it. There is no agenda about it. It is the reality. How many more times must I paste your quote?

"God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap..."

Rappers will rap about and include God in their songs until the end of time. This instance here is YOU, my friend, imposing YOUR WILL on other people. Your unpopular and extremely rare will, at that.

far as im concerned u can be christian and not follow one quote of the bible, doesnt mean your a GOOD christian, but thats obvious.. why dont u actually READ what im typing instead of skimming thru it..
What is it i'm not reading, friend? You're the typical anti-mark that thinks he's figured it all out. You refuse solid positions on most issues, preferring to equivocate and speak in ambiguities.

Who is a Non-Christian to judge Good/Bad Christians? It is one thing to say something is against the Bible. It is another to quantify it as Good/Bad within the spectrum of Christianity, coming from a Non-Christian perspective.

guess that would depend if your talking mainstream or underground...
Either. Doesn't matter. Rap Music is the medium of poor people, and most poor people in the USA believe in the God of Christianity/Islam/Judaism.

The moment is becomes secularized, is the moment White rappers flood the markets and stage a hostile takeover.

if u feel like ive been attacking then i suggest u read closer to what im saying.. even the person who started the thread agreed with my statements and see, him being one to preach the bible, didnt get offended by what i had to say..
He is not here for conflict or reasoned debate. I am.

And in a reasoned debate, you have no leg to stand on. This will continue until you grow a pair and start deciding and stop pontificating.
 
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TROLL said:
like i said, "most religous in the country" can be an arguable point (one im not intrested in getting into with you)
There is nothing arguable ABOUT it, unless you also want to sit here and argue that the sky isn't blue and that HDTV isn't better quality than standard TV.

If you are going to argue some stupid shit that goes against logic, it is incumbent upon you to provide the evidence. So why don't you go do some research, instead of just mouth-talking?

i think your beginning to feel threatend that i can articulate my opinion and uncover the obvious without pissing people off so u need to find other wayz to slander me and find a following..
I slander you for sport. I don't really care how you do things, because how I do things will always be better. I could curse and insult with every other word, and it would still be more eloquent than anything you ever have to say. Such is the reality of the situation.

your expecting black folk to come on here and back you up with "YEAH TROLL, U DONT BELIEVE IN GOD SO U MUST BE RACIST TOOO!!" LMAOOOO good luck with that "attack"
I don't need black people to come do anything. I AM black people.

u obviously have learned nothing about my beliefs.. maybe u should take this time to do your own research..
I'll get to it when its important. For now...not important. Wicca can lick my salty gonadz.

your calling black folk sheep now huh? OOOOPS was that a freuidian slip?? did u just have an epiphany of how that religon works??
Did you just have an alzheimer's moment and forget what irony is? If you could not tell that "good little ___" usually introduces a facetious comment, then you have some catching up to do to be on the general level of most people on this forum.

sorry bro, but your trying too paint this portrait of me being the curly moustached athiest/wiccan villain trying too take over the world one rapper at a time HAHAHAHAHHA
Not really. You are a secularist and an atheist that is trying to impose your will on rappers, using your position as a would-be "Progressive" Liberal to lure them into your traps.

The problem is, there is nothing Progressive about you. For the one example: you know, but choose only to separate fiction from reality when it is most convenient to you. In this case, it would be convenient to you for rappers to be Atheists, so you pretend not to understand that rapping about something is not the same as doing something.

This is the way you operate, and it is appalling.

yup.. i guess.. SHUCKS.. back to picking on the amish i guess LOLLLL u need to get over yourself..
Lol!!!!

I am telling you the truth. You are a simpleton and a flim-flammer if you think you are going to convert Black God-Loving Rappers into Black Atheist Rappers. It is not going to happen in our generation, or any other generation in the forseeable future. Black people simply reject Atheism. Just the way it is.

Nah, dont listen to Nas.. so i guess u are black then? ive seen a pic and thought u looked more hispanic.. but no. im not black and i thought niether were u..
This is what the profile button is for. When it is empty, it usually means White; when it says "Human", it usually means White; when it says "Brown", it usually means someone that wishes they were Black, but instead are Asian/Latino; and when it says Black, it usually means African-American.

You need not worry about me and saying nigga, or even nigger. It is of no concern to you. All you need to know is that these paragraphs I type are closer to real life than you think. And in real life, I either say or don't say the words, but the majority of the time, as you can see, they are not said. Everything about my use of the word nigga/nigger subjective, I describe in the passive voice. I cannot quantify my usage other than, I've been known to say one, the other or both.

i guess if u hop into a thread thinking u see competition other then an individual expressing there opinions, u have a loonnggg way to go buddy...
A long way to go towards what, pray tell? E-Netizenship? E-Friendships?

I don't come on these boards to read dumb-ass opinions of people with backward grammar that typically have no clue how to express themselves on a tertiary level. I come here because it is fun to engage the weak, do battle with the stronger, and prepare for those of higher intellect who might come in the future.

i thought maybe u were a wrestling fan scince u like to hop into every thread and play the role of the heel but im begining to think your more delusional then anything... with a tad paranoid thinking the evil athiests and pagans are out too stamp out another relgion...
I don't use the word Pagan, but OK. My problem is with Atheists, not with people who worship other or multiple gods.

Do not blame me because I am so concrete. I cannot help it. If you went around kicking everyone's ass, all day every day, you would develop the same complex. The difference between me and you is, you aren't comfortable with complexes and labels because you still haven't accepted the fact that you aren't special or unique; and me, I love the both of them because they give me something to explore and poke around at to better myself.

i also think pizza hut has the best pizza.. care too argue that also? or how about pepsi is better then coca cola? game, set, match LOLLLL
You make no sense. This is not about A or B and doesn't even come close. This is about you saying that Religion has no place in Rap Music, when Rap Music is dominated by Blacks and Blacks are the most religious people in the country.

This is like you saying, Chewing Tobacco has no place in Baseball. You would simply be clueless. The two have been, and will continue to be, associated with each other in virtual perpetuity.

ive made my point, people understand it and feel it..
The people feel nothing. You are making cases that do not apply and are not appropriate.

so i guess if you call this "game" in your head without having a single person come and back you on that then go ahead kid,.. U win... does that make u feel better?
Making people like you squirm and come up with cheap insults makes me feel better. People playing the "I'm not reading all of that!" card makes me feel better.

Being backed up by others makes me feel like I must be doing something wrong or not being original enough. When you start agreeing with me on a regular basis, and quote me without elaborating, that is a cause for concern. I am not the one to quote and not expound upon, because if you do so, you are going against everything that I am about. -- Therefore, if you do not like to expound...of course you are not going to come out of the woodwork and say "I agree, but..." and start typing paragraphs, because you know that one But could lead to a 13 page discussion that, even though you are mostly on my side, you would want no part of.

It is for this reason--arguably, the high standards of anyone in regards to their fans and supporters--that people are not as vocal for me as they could be. For others like you, with low standards.....their support speaks for itself. It is meant to keep you going, because you are not the type that can sustain himself. And of course.....I'm not you.

nah, im perfectly fine expressing my opnions on here and i love watching the closet conservative minded folx jump all over it.. maybe u should quit rapping and stick to convincing the siccness that you ARENT full of shit by making more threads dedicated to yourself...
I don't need to pull a you (http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=163156), (or you: http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=160827, etc) and make threads all about myself. I am beyond that. I put all my "me" threads in the context of a discussion that is worthy of progression.

As for rapping and posting on Siccness at the same time--in case you haven't noticed, there is no problem there. I type some 90wpm so these posts are nothing to me. What takes most of my time is people lying or fronting, and making me sift through and track down URLs to prove them wrong.

so black folx are the majority now? wow.. when did that happen?
If you have a problem with what i said, show me the URL. Provide some links to information that speaks to the contrary. Get off your ass and do the work.

'Blacks are the most religious people in the United States.' -- Get to work.

HUH???? so most athiests/satanists/wiccans and pagans are racists cuz they hate white people?? wtf??? u really kno squat about what your talking about HAHAHA
HAHAHA ditto. Do not blame me because your brain cannot compute what I am saying, and instead, you must completely re-arrange and re-word my statements and then give them your own twist, rather than taking what I am saying and giving a true analysis of it.

Just so you know, though...Hating white people...kinda, sorta, is the definition of Racism (Or Prejudice, in the case of Non-White Aths/Sats/Wics). White people hating on White people, verily, can be racism, the same way Africans hating on Blacks can be racism.

im hispanic/nativeamerican/spanish/irish and italian.. i put brown cuz thats the most prelavent as i have both grandparents that are and the rest are ancestorial..if thats a word..
Neato.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
There is nothing arguable ABOUT it, unless you also want to sit here and argue that the sky isn't blue and that HDTV isn't better quality than standard TV.

If you are going to argue some stupid shit that goes against logic, it is incumbent upon you to provide the evidence. So why don't you go do some research, instead of just mouth-talking?
To be honest i didnt research "who the most religious in the country" is because i doubt anyone has done such a thing.. i figured for the most part its something that would be more stated on opinion.. Ive never heard of a black man or woman killing for their religion.. :rolleyes:


Dirty Shoez said:
I slander you for sport. I don't really care how you do things, because how I do things will always be better. I could curse and insult with every other word, and it would still be more eloquent than anything you ever have to say. Such is the reality of the situation.
Pleaze. u want statistics? 9 timez outta 10, if an individual feelz at a social gathering that he needs to state for himself his own praise for his own words, hes dealing with insecurity..

u can curse insult with every other word as eloquently as you want, still doesnt mean theyre valid points offered by (even in this case)a person really known for well thought out statements..

such is the delusion you need to portray...


Dirty Shoez said:
I don't need black people to come do anything. I AM black people.
my point wasnt as to what you were... your still trying to gain a ffront regardless..

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I'll get to it when its important. For now...not important. Wicca can lick my salty gonadz.
then dont come and try to tell me that im using my beliefs as a "front" when u have no clue as to what they're about.. christianity and catholocism can sniff a sweaty asscrack..


Dirty Shoez said:
Did you just have an alzheimer's moment and forget what irony is? If you could not tell that "good little ___" usually introduces a facetious comment, then you have some catching up to do to be on the general level of most people on this forum.
jesting or not, a sarcastic remark is 85% the tone of the voice and 15% wording...

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Not really. You are a secularist and an atheist that is trying to impose your will on rappers, using your position as a would-be "Progressive" Liberal to lure them into your traps.
this is where that research u deemed unimportant would do you handy, the number1, biggest no no of witchery is posing your will on another. me and belial had a long discussion about that. as far as "progressive" liberal goes, im hardly political.. i think all politicians and congressmen and women are corrupt, only some are less then others... anybody who would ask (and has)about my own beliefs i send them to do there own research.(as stated time and time again) but when whiney bible thumpers like yourself need too feel superior and cant do so without demeaning another belief and complimenting yourself on your own eloquence, the option of doing your own research is not "unimportant" but threatening..thats what the bible is based on, inducing fear in somebody so they wont "wander from the herd like sheep" and find something more logical or that suits them better.


Dirty Shoez said:
The problem is, there is nothing Progressive about you. For the one example: you know, but choose only to separate fiction from reality when it is most convenient to you. In this case, it would be convenient to you for rappers to be Atheists, so you pretend not to understand that rapping about something is not the same as doing something.

This is the way you operate, and it is appalling.
no, the problem is there is nothing that you can say that can justify using the lords name in vain, slandering women, killing people and still claim to love god at the sametime, soooo.. u hide behind this curtain of ignorance to the fact that rap iz still a message portrayed wether it be one of real incidents or from a characters point of view verbally portrayed by the director. Im a threat because your one of the many rappers who rap about what is considered "sinful" but still fear a wrath of a god you have not seen. the only thing iz your either playing dumb to the fact and want to argue your own contradiction or you are really enveloped in your own illusion to the point that me callin attention to the fact that your contradicting your own beliefs from your own lyrical paint brush, is cracking ur chirstian crusaders shell and is letting a glint of reality shine thru..

thats the problem... sport.

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I am telling you the truth. You are a simpleton and a flim-flammer if you think you are going to convert Black God-Loving Rappers into Black Atheist Rappers. It is not going to happen in our generation, or any other generation in the forseeable future. Black people simply reject Atheism. Just the way it is.
Im not trying to convert anybody, lol.. again with this image of the villain u said you arent trying to portray me as.. make up your fuckin mind or take your meds and logg off...


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This is what the profile button is for. When it is empty, it usually means White; when it says "Human", it usually means White; when it says "Brown", it usually means someone that wishes they were Black, but instead are Asian/Latino; and when it says Black, it usually means African-American.
HAHAHAHAHAHA muthafucka pleeze kill that shit... i have never tried to be "black" why is it the most racially righteous make the mistake of flaunting something that is a stereotype??


Dirty Shoez said:
You need not worry about me and saying nigga, or even nigger. It is of no concern to you. All you need to know is that these paragraphs I type are closer to real life than you think. And in real life, I either say or don't say the words, but the majority of the time, as you can see, they are not said. Everything about my use of the word nigga/nigger subjective, I describe in the passive voice. I cannot quantify my usage other than, I've been known to say one, the other or both.
u can say it all u want, i dont give a shit really.. i dont say it.. but its funny how u took this stance of me not worrying about u saying it and how its no concern to me.. yet u still adressed me as "nigga"

i think your starting to confuse yourself homie..

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A long way to go towards what, pray tell? E-Netizenship? E-Friendships?
comprehension of the saying "theres always someone out there bigger and badder then you"...if anything

Dirty Shoez said:
I don't come on these boards to read dumb-ass opinions of people with backward grammar that typically have no clue how to express themselves on a tertiary level. I come here because it is fun to engage the weak, do battle with the stronger, and prepare for those of higher intellect who might come in the future.
LOL.. can we spot the conundrum for a sec..
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I don't come on these boards to read dumb-ass opinions of people
Dirty Shoez said:
I come here because it is fun to engage the weak, do battle with the stronger, and prepare for those of higher intellect who might come in the future.
unless u mean do battle with a wooden sword and a trash can lid as a shield, you will ALWAYS be subject to someones opinions when coming on here.. and the way you operate, if someone flusters your moot points with logic and reasoning, you sling mud in the direction of there character to discredit there words..like i said before, u should consider a job in politics..tho good luck trying to appeal to the right wing conservatives and getting any votes

Dirty Shoez said:
I don't use the word Pagan, but OK. My problem is with Atheists, not with people who worship other or multiple gods.
ok and like ive said before, im not athiest, LOLLL

Dirty Shoez said:
Do not blame me because I am so concrete. I cannot help it. If you went around kicking everyone's ass, all day every day, you would develop the same complex. The difference between me and you is, you aren't comfortable with complexes and labels because you still haven't accepted the fact that you aren't special or unique; and me, I love the both of them because they give me something to explore and poke around at to better myself.
Your about as concrete as exposed dry wall on a rainy day.. you contradict your own points, follow them up with a few insults, praise yourself then call a so called "win" in this twisted game your playing with yourself in your head.. just listen to yourself for a moment...
Dirty Shoez said:
you still haven't accepted the fact that you aren't special or unique;
does somebody need a hug??? why do you feel your so special when most people hold the mud on there boot in a higher regard? because you have no one to back you.. you have to praise yourself, afterall, who will??
 
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You make no sense. This is not about A or B and doesn't even come close. This is about you saying that Religion has no place in Rap Music, when Rap Music is dominated by Blacks and Blacks are the most religious people in the country.
you sound like a broken record trying to avoid the point ive made 3 times already..


Dirty Shoez said:
This is like you saying, Chewing Tobacco has no place in Baseball. You would simply be clueless. The two have been, and will continue to be, associated with each other in virtual perpetuity.
ok.. lets analyze that for a second.. if the player chewing the tobacco had jus did an anti tobacco company ad for a magazine.... that would be contradicting and thats the point ive been trying to make with rap and religion. i already stated why you chose to throw race into the mix..because no religious people will back you up on that.. dood who made the thread recognizes theres a contradiction, but your threatend by it so you choose to argue it..


Dirty Shoez said:
The people feel nothing. You are making cases that do not apply and are not appropriate.
who are you to decide whats appropriate? typical closet christian i guess :rolleyes:

Dirty Shoez said:
Making people like you squirm and come up with cheap insults makes me feel better. People playing the "I'm not reading all of that!" card makes me feel better.
wow, that just goes to show how insecure you are about yourself, needing to have people around to feel insufficent to your own delusion.. i feel sorry for anybody that would have to put up with that daily...


Dirty Shoez said:
Being backed up by others makes me feel like I must be doing something wrong or not being original enough. When you start agreeing with me on a regular basis, and quote me without elaborating, that is a cause for concern. I am not the one to quote and not expound upon, because if you do so, you are going against everything that I am about. -- Therefore, if you do not like to expound...of course you are not going to come out of the woodwork and say "I agree, but..." and start typing paragraphs, because you know that one But could lead to a 13 page discussion that, even though you are mostly on my side, you would want no part of.
i agree with certain things and disagree with others.. just how it iz.. as far as a 14 page discussion, if that happens it happens, as long as it iz this goin in a circle shit you like to do..

Dirty Shoez said:
It is for this reason--arguably, the high standards of anyone in regards to their fans and supporters--that people are not as vocal for me as they could be. For others like you, with low standards.....their support speaks for itself. It is meant to keep you going, because you are not the type that can sustain himself. And of course.....I'm not you.
its hardly "support" but more of people agreeing.. thats the reason you have 0... cuz your a mental case..


Dirty Shoez said:
I don't need to pull a you (http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=163156), (or you: http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=160827, etc) and make threads all about myself. I am beyond that. I put all my "me" threads in the context of a discussion that is worthy of progression.
the first is an advertisement and the second was a question.. so what?? was that supposed to be examples of me feeling sorry for myself.. i dont need to pull a you..
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=166602&highlight=tadou+hate+love
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funny how u asked for it to be stickied.. LIKE YOUR SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC HAHAHAHA

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=3022&highlight=tadou+hate+love
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then this one cuz its obvious im not the only one who agrees that you have problemz..

Dirty Shoez said:
As for rapping and posting on Siccness at the same time--in case you haven't noticed, there is no problem there. I type some 90wpm so these posts are nothing to me. What takes most of my time is people lying or fronting, and making me sift through and track down URLs to prove them wrong.

If you have a problem with what i said, show me the URL. Provide some links to information that speaks to the contrary. Get off your ass and do the work.
of what?? to prove that the bullshit u post comes in bulk?? talk about unimportant research.. OH I FORGOT.. not to someone with an inflated ego..
Dirty Shoez said:
'Blacks are the most religious people in the United States.' -- Get to work.
you made that statement so the burden of proof is on you doofus...

Dirty Shoez said:
HAHAHA ditto. Do not blame me because your brain cannot compute what I am saying, and instead, you must completely re-arrange and re-word my statements and then give them your own twist, rather than taking what I am saying and giving a true analysis of it.
yah i cant compute shit that doesnt make any sense :confused:

Dirty Shoez said:
Just so you know, though...Hating white people...kinda, sorta, is the definition of Racism (Or Prejudice, in the case of Non-White Aths/Sats/Wics). White people hating on White people, verily, can be racism, the same way Africans hating on Blacks can be racism.

Neato.
ok yeah wow.. so wtf does that have to do with anything we have been talking about? are u assuming that i hate white people? or all non-white (aths/sat/wics) hate white people?? lol
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Had this sitting on my university folder, incomplete until now....oops.

Not in the GOM you haven't. This place is very different.

Quote wars are still quote wars. If you are unable to ignore things that are of no consequence, and feel compelled to respond to every last character that the other person typed.....that is all on you. There is nothing clear about muddling up conversations with long-winded diatribes about how Quote Wars are a waste of time.
well when someone says many things of no consequence then i will call them on it if theyre the ones trying to make me out to be the one with the usless banter..

Dirty Shoez said:
It is so much about it, it isn't even funny.

"... THE PROBLEM IS EVERYONE WANTS TO THANK GOD FOR THIS SO CALLED GIVEN ABILITY AND THEN FLIP IT AROUND AND SLANDER EACH OTHA, CURSE, SEXUAL IMMORAILITY ..."

This 'given ability' that is being spoken about, is the art of Rapping, with the broader implication of those who support rappers.

Lyrics have everything to do with this. I am sorry you cannot see that.
man will you pleeze fuckin read what i typed.. your questioning the VAILDITY.. were speaking on the CONTENT.


Dirty Shoez said:
Ok, and that means that saying Rappers cannot curse and be Christians, is about as ignorant as saying you can't Write movies that include rape or murder and be Christian. It makes no sense whatsoever. I am explaining to you the reason why rappers rap in the 1st person, and why ignorant people hold them to a different standard because of it. I am explaining why they cannot rationally be held to a different standard because the medium itself compels one to speak in such a manner.
right, cuz i never said rappers cant be christians.. lol what a waste of a paragraph..


Dirty Shoez said:
"God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap..."

Well, unless you want to take ^^^^ this statement back and admit you were wrong.
nope.. i kno what i meant and meant what i said..


Dirty Shoez said:
"if a rapper feelz hes done his holy duty by giving a shot out to jesus in a 2 bar sentence then follow that song with one called "fuck a bitch" then he can turn his blind eye to his own contradiction all he wants.."

This is demeaning. You are someone who is not a Christian, who has no basis for what he is saying, (which indeed are 2 separate things), and yet labeling what a God-Fearing Rapper may choose to do with his artwork as a "contradiction".
it is a contradiction wether its this a verbal piece of art or a fuckin novel.. they CONTRADICT the message sent out by christianity.. and if u consider yourself "christian" then they CONTRADICT your beliefs.... you keep trying to justify it and are doing a horrid job of it..



Dirty Shoez said:
If you think it is, then good for you. But you should not label contradiction something that results from your own ignorance of the situation.

It is one thing for a preacher to preach, and then go hire a hooker. It is another thing entirely for a man to praise Allah, and then rap a song that contains shadier elements.
ITs a contradiction kid, get over it... your comparing rapping to getting a hooker... bad anaolgy first off, secondly, ones a creation from the thoughts of the artist, the other is someone gettin there nutt off.. think first.. then type next time..


Dirty Shoez said:
Threatened....Lol. By what exactly? Your presistence? Your perseverence? Certainly it isn't your knowledge and expertise.
your threatend that i actually take the time to state my own opinion and am calling attention to a contradiction more then half of your beloved rappers are holding..


Dirty Shoez said:
Good for you and Belial.

Just because something is bullshit doesn't mean there isn't a lot of info out there about it, esp. to laugh at and ridicule. Look at William Hung or The Runaway Bride.
or your debateing skills...


Dirty Shoez said:
"(insert religion here)? Aren't those the dumb motherfuckers who think the earth was created by a giant turtle?" -- These are the quotes we wish to fill. I personally don't give a rats ass about Wicca. I just want some punchlines.
ignorance can be easy to laugh at yes.. but is that ignorance on behalf of the person being laughed at or ignorance in the humor found by the person laughing?

Dirty Shoez said:
Well...pretty much, yeah. I'm not always right, but on a curve, I am.
you think.

Dirty Shoez said:
If you can't see the logical and linguistical ties between 'funny' and 'unorthodox' or 'perverted'.....I don't know what to say. The educational system verily has failed you.
care to explain to me the ties they have and how they tie into what were discussing??




Dirty Shoez said:
Friend, I am letting you know these things because they matter and I don't want you to look uninformed or simple.
they dont matter to me.. i dont give a fly fuck about you to be honest, ill hold the opinion of a 2nd grader higher then one uttered by you...

Dirty Shoez said:
"i still have a hard time finding the justification for only using the parts of the bible that claim to be most beneficial but ignoreing the rest of it.. i guess thats how u cope with itz contradictions i guess.. "

In the first place, I'm not a Christian, and in the second, I hardly ever use the Bible for anything, though I have openly challenged people to find errors in the Quran, and speak on it with the quickness.
so? your closet christian..

Dirty Shoez said:
Engaging me as the a typical Christian, offended by your pagan worship yet perfectly comfortable with the Bible's numerous flaws.....not going to work. You're going to have to try harder than that.
try harder? remember who came on here looking for competition?? dipshit..

Dirty Shoez said:
There is nothing of an assumption about it. There is no agenda about it. It is the reality. How many more times must I paste your quote?
as many times as u feel will validate a retarded statement..

Dirty Shoez said:
"God has no place in rap music unless its labeled chritstian rap..."

Rappers will rap about and include God in their songs until the end of time. This instance here is YOU, my friend, imposing YOUR WILL on other people. Your unpopular and extremely rare will, at that.
how many more times must i paste my quote

TROLL said:
i stated my OPINION
u felt obliged to come and argue with me how wrong i am for my opinion.. and this is me pointing my finger in your face and telling you to fuck off... :cool:

Dirty Shoez said:
What is it i'm not reading, friend? You're the typical anti-mark that thinks he's figured it all out. You refuse solid positions on most issues, preferring to equivocate and speak in ambiguities.
nope.. way off.. i never said i have it all figured out.. my belief system is that of constant learning.. my positions are rock solid, hence the reason we are having this conversation..


Dirty Shoez said:
Who is a Non-Christian to judge Good/Bad Christians? It is one thing to say something is against the Bible. It is another to quantify it as Good/Bad within the spectrum of Christianity, coming from a Non-Christian perspective.
go play your lyrics to a preacher and ask if they can play em during service.. after all they're good christians right? they must be following all the commandments, are charitable and the message they send is one of love and passion right??



Dirty Shoez said:
He is not here for conflict or reasoned debate. I am.

And in a reasoned debate, you have no leg to stand on. This will continue until you grow a pair and start deciding and stop pontificating.
and to be honest i didnt come on here to debate either, i stated my opinion and u felt as if it was threatening to your own beliefs in which you deny outwardly.. your an egotistical bigg headed wanna be rap artist who wasnt shown enough love so comes on here to revel in the hate you provoke by slinging low-brow insults behind a mask of intelligent conversation....your god has bitchslapped your existence more so then any of mine could have.. for that i truely pity you..
 

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TADOU,
I SEE THAT I'VE INFLUENCED YOU. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM BITIN' MINES AND MAKE YOUR OWN. I SEE LEATHA-FACE CALLED YOU ON IT.

FOR THE MAN THAT STARTED THIS THREAD,

I DONE SEEN SOME CHRISTIAN RAP THAT WAS QUALITY. MY ONLY THANg IS THIS: A LOT OF THEM IS TRYIN' TO IMMITATE A WORLD THAT AIN'T THEIRS AND FLIPPIN' IT TO FIT THEY AgENDA. IT'S JUST LIKE CHRISTIAN ROK. BUT THE WHOLE "CHRISTIAN" LABEL IN THAT MUSIC IS JUST CATEgORIZIN' YOURSELF AND THAT TO ME AIN'T RIgHT. IF I WAS TRYIN' TO FOLLOW (gOD) AND HIS WILL, THEN I WOULDN'T FOLLOW MAN AND THE FRUITS OF THE FLESH AND THAT'S WHAT THIS RAP gAME IS.
 

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see that makes more sense..i can understand how a persons beliefs conflict with eachother at times, and like i said i dont hold it against anyone if they feel that way.. it must be hard for a person to kno they are contradicting themselves.. im familiar with us having inconsistency tho, well articulated.. :cool:
Thank you for understanding. Now, as to the highlighted statement, I don't know if he/she is cognizant of their contradictions. To another person the contradictions may be quite apparent, but the one doing the contradicting may have created a philosophy of life that ties everything together and thus a worldview that makes complete sense to themselves.
 
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yes i understand ur agruement about labeling it christian rap and if it was in god's will but like with everything we always put a label on everything such as kc rap , midwest downsouth etc.... , and the bible tells you in the story of the servants u were given talents in mathew that
IF GOD IS CALLIN U FOR SUMPTIN U MUST GO INTO UR CALLING. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THIS

THE MESSAGE STAYS DA SAME BUT HOW IT IS PRESENTED TO THE UNBELIEVER IS WHAT CHANGES.

AND THE MESSAGE IS HE CAME HE DIED HE NOW LIVES IN WHOEVA DECIDES TO ACCEPT HIM, AND SPEAKIN FO ME PERSONALLY, IF HE CAN CHANGE ME HE CAN DO IT FO ANYONE.
 
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you sound like a broken record trying to avoid the point ive made 3 times already..
Because you ain't saying shit. These 15k, 2-post responses started with you saying "Religion has no place in rap music", which makes 0% sense and is a losing argument in any and every aspect.

You're busy hoping to make this about something else, but unfortunately, I am not. I know and continue to speak on what this is really about. I deal with all the trimmings because I know you are a mark and you don't know any better.


ok.. lets analyze that for a second.. if the player chewing the tobacco had jus did an anti tobacco company ad for a magazine.... that would be contradicting and thats the point ive been trying to make with rap and religion. i already stated why you chose to throw race into the mix..because no religious people will back you up on that.. dood who made the thread recognizes theres a contradiction, but your threatend by it so you choose to argue it..
So much garbage here it's hard to know where to begin.

One player doing an Anti-Tobacco ad has fuck-all to do with the fact that tobacco is WIDELY chewed in Baseball; the same way one Atheist Rapper coming out has nothing to do with other rappers embracing Religion. Horrible example on your part.

Again...don't need people to back me up. I'm not you. I stand on my own 2. And when i say that, I don't just say it as a cliche--it's the truth. I don't need people to come `back (me) up', because what I am saying is real. The people already know this. Rap = Black = Religious. There is no getting around that. It is beyond argument, no matter how much you sit here and talk in circles, and come up with crappy and severely flawed counter-examples.

who are you to decide whats appropriate? typical closet christian i guess :rolleyes:
Because I am the one that matters. You do not matter. You are a nothing, a nobody. You aren't even worth stepping on to get to the top--people like me just step right over you.

This not even mentioning the fact that "The people feel nothing" was about the most deadpan comment I've ever made on these forums.

wow, that just goes to show how insecure you are about yourself, needing to have people around to feel insufficent to your own delusion.. i feel sorry for anybody that would have to put up with that daily...
Lol, this guy here.


Observe the progression, folks:

His original comment: "so i guess if you call this "game" in your head without having a single person come and back you on that then go ahead kid,.. U win... does that make u feel better?"

My response: "Making people like you squirm and come up with cheap insults makes me feel better. People playing the "I'm not reading all of that!" card makes me feel better."

His new comment: "wow, that just goes to show how insecure you are about yourself, needing to have people around to feel insufficent to your own delusion.. i feel sorry for anybody that would have to put up with that daily..."


You all can decide for yourselves who the pathetic one is. This man is scratching and clawing and responding snidely and defensively to everything I say, and I am just sitting back doing the normal repertoire, as usual. He looks like a midget trying to swing an axe, and I'm standing there poking him with a pool cue and laughing at him.

i agree with certain things and disagree with others.. just how it iz.. as far as a 14 page discussion, if that happens it happens, as long as it iz this goin in a circle shit you like to do..
I can only respond to what is there. You aren't about shit, so you don't add anything. You just respond and nothing more. This would be quick and painless if you would just shut the fuck up and admit to being a miserable failure, and someone who cannot meet the standards.

its hardly "support" but more of people agreeing.. thats the reason you have 0... cuz your a mental case..
Again. The same man calling other people Pathetic, and your biggest argument is to point out the lack of a chorus line of folks agreeing with me. Thats some backbone you have there, junior.

Keep at it with this one. Who needs facts and figures and elaboration, when you can simply sit back and proclaim that if nobody else is supporting me, then I must be wrong?

the first is an advertisement and the second was a question.. so what?? was that supposed to be examples of me feeling sorry for myself..
That was an example of you making threads (note: plural) about yourself.

i dont need to pull a you..
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=166602&highlight=tadou+hate+love
^^
funny how u asked for it to be stickied.. LIKE YOUR SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC HAHAHAHA
In that forum.....Yes. I actually am. So much so that it was disrupting threads to have such a big celebrity saying things in them, people couldn't keep quiet and speak on the topic.

Feel free to ask around. You are somewhat new here. I am one of the most infamous people on Siccness. And that, my friend, is REAL.

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=3022&highlight=tadou+hate+love
^^
then this one cuz its obvious im not the only one who agrees that you have problemz..
First of all--can you please do me a favor, and never search for "Tadou" and "Love" in the same search again? That shit is wiiiiillld homo.

2nd....3 1/2 years ago? Just plain funny.

of what?? to prove that the bullshit u post comes in bulk?? talk about unimportant research.. OH I FORGOT.. not to someone with an inflated ego..
What in the holy fucking hell are you even talking about?

You think Religion doesn't belong in Rap Music. I do. My argument is that Black people are the most religious people in the country. Yours is, you don't have one, but you personally "think" that white people are in fact more religious.

Pure garbage. You have nothing. All you can do is rant and rave, which is cool and all. But at the end of the day, you have nothing. You lose the main point, and you'll lose every side arument.

you made that statement so the burden of proof is on you doofus...
Actually, its not. You can either admit the statement, or choose not to. If you choose not to (and in fact, replace it with your own, in this case replacing Black with White), it is up to you to prove that.....sport.


If you were to sit here and say, "Canada, which has 35 million people, is a great country", nobody in their right fuckin mind would sit there and pester you about posting proof that Canada has 35 mil. If they had a PROBLEM with that number, they would go look it up for themselves.

This is what you need to do with my saying that Blacks are the most religious in the country. This is what you cannot do because you have zero experience doing research about things that actually matter, and sadly, 3 1/2 year old Tadou/SLR Board comments aren't among them.

yah i cant compute shit that doesnt make any sense
HAR.

ok yeah wow.. so wtf does that have to do with anything we have been talking about? are u assuming that i hate white people? or all non-white (aths/sat/wics) hate white people?? lol
LOL, apparently it has nothing to do with nothing. Here, I'll show you.

"HUH???? so most athiests/satanists/wiccans and pagans are racists cuz they hate white people?? wtf??? u really kno squat about what your talking about HAHAHA"

I guess you didn't say this. Someone else must have. So for me to respond to it, and you to then respond with:

"ok yeah wow.. so wtf does that have to do with anything we have been talking about? are u assuming that i hate white people? or all non-white (aths/sat/wics) hate white people?? lol"

I must be the crazy one. Yup...thats it. Couldn't possssssibly be that you're on a fishing expedition here, can't come up with shit, and think you can talk in circles and pretend you didn't say things that you just 5 minutes ago brought up yourself.


"That one girl Jenny is a SLUT! S-L-U-T!"
"Naw, she's a real nice girl, she's not a slut."
"Who said anything about sluts? lol!!"

That shit might work when you and your boys are gone off an once of green and nobody has the energy to explain how much of a retard you are, but on here.....no go. Sorry. You'll get called every time.
 
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well when someone says many things of no consequence then i will call them on it if theyre the ones trying to make me out to be the one with the usless banter..
Dude, most people here LOVE doing the useless banter. WD, EDJ and Heresy love the shit. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if Heresy quoted this very paragraph and dissected it into 15 different quotes, each saying the same ol shit with different sets of words and nuances.

Friend, this is how this place gets down. I know you are having problems conforming to it, but this is the way it is.

man will you pleeze fuckin read what i typed.. your questioning the VAILDITY.. were speaking on the CONTENT.
I don't give a fuck about the content. Content is whatever is contained. Tell me some shit I don't know already.


Seriously, what the fuck are you even doing here? Why are you continuing this losing battle? What is this all about? You use no new words. You don't monologue. You do the ... shit. You spin and play the I-don't-remember-saying-that game. You are wasting my time here. Step your game up or step off.

right, cuz i never said rappers cant be christians.. lol what a waste of a paragraph..
Lol!!!!!!11!!!11one1!!1

"saying Rappers cannot curse and be Christians, is about as ignorant as saying you can't Write movies that include rape or murder and be Christian"

Is there something about Gerunds that you are having troubles understanding?


SAYING...i.e., THE ACT OF SAYING....i.e., you MAY or MAY NOT have said such a thing.

Compare and contrast this with:

"YOU SAID"....i.e., this is something YOU SAID....i.e., something was said BY YOU.


And then you wonder why I speak of being superior. You fall into every trap, and I am sitting here having a great time watching you fail as a result of your overzealousness.

I criticize the act of saying such and such, what I would believe were someone to say a certain something--and you jump right in and say "But I didn't say that!", and its comedy. See:


nope.. i kno what i meant and meant what i said..
Good for you. It doesn't mean you're not dead wrong (and you are), but still...good for you.

it is a contradiction wether its this a verbal piece of art or a fuckin novel.. they CONTRADICT the message sent out by christianity.. and if u consider yourself "christian" then they CONTRADICT your beliefs.... you keep trying to justify it and are doing a horrid job of it..
Friend, I am literally slaughtering you at it. Your argument holds no water because you are being faulty and your arguments are sloppy.


If a Christian writer made a movie about war, and about the dangers of war, and the moral of the story was that War is bad and killing people is wrong.......nobody in their right fucking Mind, Christians included, is going to immediately discredit the movie should it contain an Un-Christian act. It would make no sense.

You piss and moan about Rap music, and I have already predicted why and explained it away days ago: Rap Music is necessarily done in the first person. Movies are necessarily written in parts.

A Rapper rapping about fucking hoes and slanging dope, on its own, means jack shit. The music is entertainment, and that rapper is just as free to make a song about hoes followed by a praper skit, as an artist is to draw a huge head on a small body. You act as though Picasso and DMX are unable to be compared. Verily...they are.

ITs a contradiction kid, get over it... your comparing rapping to getting a hooker... bad anaolgy first off, secondly, ones a creation from the thoughts of the artist, the other is someone gettin there nutt off.. think first.. then type next time..
....Ok, now I'm just lost. You just explained FOR ME why Rap Music ISN'T a contradiction, and why a Preacher hiring a hooker IS.

Is this you giving up, or what? Are you this tired? Is mean ol Dirty Shoez making your brain hurt? :(

your threatend that i actually take the time to state my own opinion and am calling attention to a contradiction more then half of your beloved rappers are holding..
Again, I bring up the fact that you are, more or less, a speed bump on the road of life. On this forum, even. You're Scrappy Sam on some Double-Dragon-styled game, before you fight the 10 Other bosses, and then get to the final boss. You're a warm-up. You're the 5" portable TV in the bathroom people watch while they're on the toilet, so they don't miss whats going on on the 52" TV in the living room.

or your debateing skills...
Lol...............................................................................................................................................................

"AS far as credentials go, i kno what im talking about.. even belial and i can put our calle beef to the side to discuss our beliefs.."


That is your credentials. Very impressive. You are able to put your beef with Belial aside to discuss your beliefs, and thus, you have solid standing for what you are saying about Christianity and contradictions against the Christian faith. Brilliant.

ignorance can be easy to laugh at yes.. but is that ignorance on behalf of the person being laughed at or ignorance in the humor found by the person laughing?
...

This from the man that accuses ME of talking in circles. You bring up people interested in Wicca; i explain to you that people aren't really interested, and just want to laugh at you and others; you go off on a rant about ignorance and humor.

You're a sad little man, Troll. A sad little man, indeed.

you think.
Verily.

care to explain to me the ties they have and how they tie into what were discussing??
You are running your mouth about so-called contradictions, and you have nothing. You are empty. You are a shell. You're Baywatch without the silicone. You're BET without Black people.

You are making false arguments against Rap music and Christianity, and I am putting you in your place from every angle, including linguistically. This is something you need to learn how to deal with, instead of always being on the defensive, and asking questions without offering forth your own answers and hypotheses.

they dont matter to me.. i dont give a fly fuck about you to be honest, ill hold the opinion of a 2nd grader higher then one uttered by you...
Heh heh. You're either of a good liar or incredibly fucking stupid. I'm being real here.

There is nobody on this forum that is going to help you out right now. You are alone here. You need to hurry up and realize this, and start planning your exit strategy. This is an exchange you cannot win.

so? your closet christian..
Says the man who vehemently proclaims that he is not an Atheist.

its all real simple. To your family--You're still the Billy they know and love, a Christian. To Siccness and your fellow Hippies--you're Wicca, which saves you the embarassment of admitting what you really are, while still allowing you to profess a belief in God, no matter how framed and narrow your interpretation of Him may be.


Friend, I don't need to be a Christian. Nothing compelles me to be one. Everything compels me to be a Muslim, but I have not taken the Shahada yet because i like to drink beer and I hate waking up early.

You miss on that one. But did I miss on mine? I doubt it.

try harder? remember who came on here looking for competition?? dipshit..
....Friend, again, I am trying to help you here. If you can simply survive our encounter here without wigging out, you will be fairly well off and will walk away with some good knowledge.

But that is only if you're paying attention. This much must be done. Whether you acknowledge it or not, you need to realize my genius, and begin the process of of trying to take aspects of it and attempting to shape and mold them into something you could use to your own advantage.

If you choose not to do any of this, and you still want to act like a fucked up multi-colored mutt bitch of a dog, trapped in a corner and still trying to puff up your chest and look big, while your matted fur hangs off your flabby skin and puss drips from your infected left eye, etc....I'll just go in for the kill already. I'll wipe you out and you'll be no more. But we don't want that. We want to be civilized. Don't we?

as many times as u feel will validate a retarded statement..
Sport, you're doing everything in your power to invalidate the complete absurdity of what you said, and nothiing is working and I won't back off. That's usually a hint. In this case--what you said was completely DERRRRRR and it is something you should admit to mis-speaking, instead of continuing to try and defend it.

how many more times must i paste my quote


u felt obliged to come and argue with me how wrong i am for my opinion.. and this is me pointing my finger in your face and telling you to fuck off...
Your mother is an 87 year old web-footed crack whore from the Philipines. But hey man, don't get mad at me, thats only my opinion. Nevermind the fact that it has no basis in reality--it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it, Mommy and Mrs. Johnson and my Nanny all told me so. :hurt:
 
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nope.. way off.. i never said i have it all figured out.. my belief system is that of constant learning.. my positions are rock solid, hence the reason we are having this conversation..
Friend, you don't sound like it. You are not being consistent.

On the one hand, you are screaming your head off about how something is your Opinion, and thus, you don't need to rationalize and defend it. -- On the other, you're sitting here saying that your belief system is one of "constant learning". It does not add up.

Champion--when you grow up, and become one of us grown folks, you will come to understand that Opinions without Rationale do not mean jack shit. Opinions without a solid grounding in logic, facts, figures, etc. are nothing more than Glorified Statements. You ought to learn the difference.

go play your lyrics to a preacher and ask if they can play em during service.. after all they're good christians right? they must be following all the commandments, are charitable and the message they send is one of love and passion right??
Friend.....it doesn't matter. It really doesn't. It would be inappropriate to play most rap songs in Church. It would be inappropriate to play them in Schools. It would be inappropriate to play them in Government offices. It would be inappropriate to play them in about 100 other places. -- It would be inappropriate to play gospel music in Schools. It would be inappropriate to play it inside the DMV. It would be inappropriate to play it on the Discovery channel. And we can go on and on for days with this.

Rap Music is Art. You already know this, but you feel like being a dumb ass and pretending you don't, for the sake of an argument that you can't win. You need to understand that there is absolutely nothing about Rap Music that is inherently un-Christian. What matters is what the rappers choose to do with their music, in combination with what they choose to do in their personal lives.

Barbara Streisand music is inappropriate for Street Racing DVDs, the same way most rap music is inappropriate for Churches. This does not mean that every single song ever made cannot ever possibly be appropriate...this is just explaining, once again, the reality of the situation.

and to be honest i didnt come on here to debate either, i stated my opinion and u felt as if it was threatening to your own beliefs in which you deny outwardly..your an egotistical bigg headed wanna be rap artist who wasnt shown enough love so comes on here to revel in the hate you provoke by slinging low-brow insults behind a mask of intelligent conversation....your god has bitchslapped your existence more so then any of mine could have.. for that i truely pity you..
Lollllllll. Just plain hilarious. Tell me about you sport. I want to hear all about it.

Me: Grew up on welfare. No Pre-School, but still, one of the smartest in Kindergarten. Selected for Gifted program in 5th grade (only top 2% or so of grade level was selected). Currently in 4-year university with B+/A- GPA. Rap career: Jumped into group that wasn't doing shows, and within a year we were doing shows and releasing albums. Pressed up and sold 10 boxes of albums. Currently in the process of recording more material.


You? Disgruntled, mixed Wicca loser with a faggy handle that probably smokes drugs all the time and lives in some piece-of-shit, filthy house, working a dead-end job? And do YOU even rap, or are you REALLY a loser with no musical talent at all?

Speak up!