Who's gonna win the NFC West?
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I just mean "top team" as one of the best teams in their conference. The Niners are NOT a Super Bowl contender and I wouldn't say they are even top 3, but they are one of the better teams in the NFC. That's what I mean.
Like I said, I only see 4 teams that are "for-sure" better than the Niners right now. Every other team is debatable.
Like I said, I only see 4 teams that are "for-sure" better than the Niners right now. Every other team is debatable.
I think the Niners could be a SuperBowl contender because the NFC isn't as competitive as the AFC. In my opinion the NFC is wide open. The home opener against the Saints is a very important game even though it's early in the season. You never know, the 49ers and Saints could end up tied at the end of the year. If 49ers beat the Saints, look out and it's a strong possibility that it could happen. The 49ers pretty much had the Vikings beat last year and the Vikings were a top team.
In the AFC you have the Patriots, Colts, Jets, Ravens, Chargers, Bengals, Steelers, Titans, Texans..... it's funk in the AFC and a bit tougher.
In the AFC you have the Patriots, Colts, Jets, Ravens, Chargers, Bengals, Steelers, Titans, Texans..... it's funk in the AFC and a bit tougher.
He did fine last year and has progressed since. It's unlikely he gets worse, and if he were to play like he played last year, that should be more than enough to win a few more games due to the O-Line being competent this year.
Like I've said before, you sit there and act like only 49ers fans predict the team is going to be one of the better teams in the NFC. It's usually people like yourself - raider fans or fans of other teams that have something against the Niners - that think otherwise.
Another thing.. Shouldn't YOU wait to see how Campbell does for 4-6 games before you pretend the raiders have a chance at being 10-6 and competing with the Chargers for the AFC West?
Like I've said before, you sit there and act like only 49ers fans predict the team is going to be one of the better teams in the NFC. It's usually people like yourself - raider fans or fans of other teams that have something against the Niners - that think otherwise.
Another thing.. Shouldn't YOU wait to see how Campbell does for 4-6 games before you pretend the raiders have a chance at being 10-6 and competing with the Chargers for the AFC West?
The NFC west is on a platter for you guys, there is no doubt about that. But A. Smith's track record says he will regress this season. If not, then good for him. Analysts predict the 49ers to win the West, not make a deep run into the playoffs.
You kill your own argument with the he progressed talk? How can you tell that in the preseason? Have the 49ers first team lit up the score board in any game this preseason? I honestly don't know.
Campbell is a proven QB in the league. Not elite, but capable of getting the job done. He has led his team to the playoffs before. Even then, I think Gradkowski could be the man. Don't act as if the Raiders QB situation is not looking better than the 49ers.
You kill your own argument with the he progressed talk? How can you tell that in the preseason? Have the 49ers first team lit up the score board in any game this preseason? I honestly don't know.
Campbell is a proven QB in the league. Not elite, but capable of getting the job done. He has led his team to the playoffs before. Even then, I think Gradkowski could be the man. Don't act as if the Raiders QB situation is not looking better than the 49ers.
How do you figure? Oh wait, nevermind. You're looking at the stat pages on NFL.com. That much is obvious.
He was shitty his rookie year. He got better his 2nd year. He got hurt his 3rd year, but was played anyway because Nolan was the most incompetent coach in the NFL. He completely missed his 4th season due to that injury. He came back last season and did a pretty good job.
Where do you see regression? You obviously know nothing about the kid and rely on a stat page to back your argument.
I'm not the biggest fan of Alex Smith, but if you're gonna hate on him, at least do a little research first.
NO SHIT.
What point does that prove? New Orleans and Minnesota are the only teams I've seen expected to make a deep run into the NFC playoffs.
He's more confident and comfortable in that offense. Anyone who actually watches the guy can see this. He's looked better than he ever has, not only in preseason games, but in camp. I've seen it first-hand (we actually get to watch our team in person). The guy has never looked as good as he does now.
You can take away individual aspects of a player's game from preseason play.. Accuracy, decisiveness, poise, etc.. However, you cannot take any team effort into consideration due to starters not playing, vanilla schemes, etc..
I don't put much stock into anything in the preseason, but Alex Smith has been getting beefed up by our reporters all offseason and you can actually see the differences in his game.
This is all true, but NOT WITH YOUR TEAM.
If you're gonna tell me I need to wait 4-6 games, then you need to do the same.
As far as backups go, yes, the raiders are in a better situation. As far as the two starters, Campbell and Smith are on the same level right now. We've already had that discussion.
He was shitty his rookie year. He got better his 2nd year. He got hurt his 3rd year, but was played anyway because Nolan was the most incompetent coach in the NFL. He completely missed his 4th season due to that injury. He came back last season and did a pretty good job.
Where do you see regression? You obviously know nothing about the kid and rely on a stat page to back your argument.
I'm not the biggest fan of Alex Smith, but if you're gonna hate on him, at least do a little research first.
NO SHIT.
What point does that prove? New Orleans and Minnesota are the only teams I've seen expected to make a deep run into the NFC playoffs.
He's more confident and comfortable in that offense. Anyone who actually watches the guy can see this. He's looked better than he ever has, not only in preseason games, but in camp. I've seen it first-hand (we actually get to watch our team in person). The guy has never looked as good as he does now.
You can take away individual aspects of a player's game from preseason play.. Accuracy, decisiveness, poise, etc.. However, you cannot take any team effort into consideration due to starters not playing, vanilla schemes, etc..
I don't put much stock into anything in the preseason, but Alex Smith has been getting beefed up by our reporters all offseason and you can actually see the differences in his game.
This is all true, but NOT WITH YOUR TEAM.
If you're gonna tell me I need to wait 4-6 games, then you need to do the same.
As far as backups go, yes, the raiders are in a better situation. As far as the two starters, Campbell and Smith are on the same level right now. We've already had that discussion.
I remember reading some article last year that I agreed with. It basically said how most QB's wait a few years to start. Alex smith got thrown in the mix, had a different offensive coordinator every year, played hurt, and sat out a season. Basically saying there isn't enough there to say he's a bad quarterback or a bust, and there isn't enough to say whether he's a good qb and a smart first round pick. Dude needs an opportunity to make a little resume for himself. 49ers did just fine with him last year, and this year he's surrounded by so much goddamn talent, he's gonna have absolutely no excuse. He better have the best season of his life.
And why is everybody sayin its a weak div.? Why cause there records? I think that's jus the opposite every team in that div. Battles with each other every game, yea the rams are lousy and seahawks have been as well of late but they all go down to the wire...should be another helluva year watchin these games in the nfc west
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