WHICH QB FROM THE THIS YEARS DRAFT WOULD U PICK AND WHY?

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2007 Draft Prospects - QBs
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The 2007 NFL Draft is set for April 28-29 at Radio City Music Hall in New York. The Raiders currently hold the #1 overall pick. We kick off the Raiders.com 2007 Draft Prospects series with a look at the quarterbacks who were invited to the NFL's Annual Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. *Photos courtesy of the respective player's university or college.
Reggie Ball
| 5'11" | 195 pounds | Georgia Tech
Reggie Ball completed 662 of 1,363 pass attempts for 8,128 yards, 57 TDs and 55 INTs as a four-year starter at Georgia Tech. He threw for 1,820 yards and 20 TDs in 2006.

John Beck
| 6'2" | 215 pounds | BYU
John Beck completed 885 of 1,418 pass attempts for 11,021 yards, 79 TDs and 34 INTs in four years at Brigham Young. In 2006, he threw for 3,885 yards and 32 TDs, and completed 69 percent of his pass attempts.

Trent Edwards | 6'4" | 220 pounds | Stanford
Trent Edwards completed 487 of 865 pass attempts for 5,429 yards, 36 TDs and 33 INTs in 35 games over four years at Stanford. In 2006, he threw for 1,027 yards and 6 TDs.

Luke Getsy | 6'2" | 220 pounds | Akron
Luke Getsy completed 480 of 918 pass attempts for 6,149 yards, 41 TDs and 23 INTs while attending Akron. In 2006, he threw for 2,662 yards and 18 TDs.

Matt Gutierrez | 6'4" | 230 pounds | Idaho State
Matt Gutierrez completed 214 of 383 pass attempts for 2,523 yards, 17 TDs and 14 INTs while attending Idaho State. In 2006, he threw for 2,237 yards and 16 TDs.

Kevin Kolb | 6'3" | 225 pounds | Houston
Kevin Kolb completed 964 of 1,565 pass attempts for 12,964 yards, 85 TDs and 31 INTs in four years at Houston. In 2006, he threw for 3,809 yards and 30 TDs, and completed nearly 68 percent of his pass attempts.

Toby Korrodi | 6'4" | 235 pounds | Central Missouri State
Toby Korrodi completed 804 of 1,332 pass attempts for 10,843 yards, 112 TDs and 34 INTs in four years at Central Missouri State. In 2006, he threw for 2,797 yards and 29 TDs.



Chris Leak | 6' | 210 pounds | Florida
Chris Leak completed 895 of 1,458 pass attempts for 11,213 yards, 88 TDs and 42 INTs in four years at Florida. In 2006, he threw for 2,942 yards and 23 TDs. Leak led the Gators to the 2006 NCAA BCS National Championship.

Tyler Palko | 6'2" | 220 pounds | Pittsburgh
Tyler Palko completed 643 of 1,072 pass attempts for 8,330 yards, 66 TDs and 25 INTs while attending Pittsburgh. In 2006 he threw for 2,871 yards and 25 TDs, and completed 68 percent of his pass attempts.

Jordan Palmer | 6'5" | 235 pounds | UTEP
Jordan Palmer completed 851 of 1,429 pass attempts for 11,084 yards, 88 TDs and 64 INTs in four years at University of Texas at El Paso. In 2006, he threw for 3,595 yards and 26 TDs, and completed nearly 66 percent of his pass attempts.

James Pinkney | 6'3" | 220 pounds | East Carolina
James Pinkney completed 687 of 1,189 pass attempts for 8,173 yards, 95 TDs and 39 INTs in four years at East Carolina. In 2006, he threw for 2,783 yards and 12 TDs.


Brady Quinn | 6'4" | 230 pounds | Notre Dame
Brady Quinn completed 929 of 1,602 pass attempts for 11,762 yards, 95 TDs and 39 INTs in four years at Notre Dame. In 2006, he threw for 3,426 yards and 37 TDs, and completed 62 percent of his pass attempts.

Jeff Rowe
| 6'5" | 225 pounds | Nevada - Reno
Jeff Rowe completed 665 of 1,096 pass attempts for 7,724 yards, 54 TDs and 33 INTs in four years at UNLV. In 2006, he threw for 1,907 yards and 17 TDs.

JaMarcus Russell | 6'6" | 260 pounds | LSU
JaMarcus Russell completed 493 of 797 pass attempts for 6,625 yards, 52 TDs and 21 INTs during his time at LSU. In 2006, he threw for 3,129 yards and 28 TDs.

Troy Smith | 6'1" | 215 pounds | Ohio State
Troy Smith completed 420 of 670 pass attempts for 5,720 yards, 54 TDs and 13 INTs in four years at Ohio State. In 2006, he threw for 2,542 yards and 30 TDs, and was the Heisman Trophy recipient.

Isaiah Stanback | 6'3" | 215 pounds | Washington
Isaiah Stanback completed 269 of 523 pass attempts for 3,868 yards, 22 TDs and 12 INTs in four years at Washington. In 2006, he threw for 1,325 yards and 10 TDs.

Drew Stanton | 6'3" | 230 pounds | Michigan State
Drew Stanton completed 543 of 846 pass attempts for 6,594 yards, 42 TDs and 28 INTs in four years at Michigan State. In 2006, he threw for 1,807 yards and 12 TDs.

John Stocco | 6'2" | 205 pounds | Wisconsin
John Stocco completed 534 of 934 pass attempts for 7,227 yards, 47 TDs and 22 INTs in four years at Wisconsin. In 2006, he threw for 2,185 yards and 17 TDs.

Josh Swogger | 6'5" | 255 pounds | Montana
Josh Swogger completed 334 of 648 pass attempts for 4,637 yards, 32 TDs and 24 INTs in four years at Montana. In 2006, he threw for 2,659 yards and 17 TDs.

Zac Taylor | 6'2" | 210 pounds | Nebraska
Zac Taylor completed 471 of 822 pass attempts for 5,853 yards, 45 TDs and 20 INTs during his time at Nebraska. In 2006, he threw for 3,197 yards and 26 TDs.

Paul Thompson
| 6'4" | 215 pounds | Oklahoma
Paul Thompson completed 233 of 388 pass attempts for 2,989 yards, 24 TDs and 13 INTs while attending Oklahoma. In 2006, he threw for 2,667 yards and 22 TDs.

Jared Zabransky | 6'2" | 205 pounds | Boise State
Jared Zabransky completed 610 of 980 pass attempts for 8,256 yards, 58 TDs and 37 INTs in four years at Boise State. In 2006 he threw for 2,587 yards and 23 TDs, and completed 66 percent of his pass attempts.






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Matt Gutierrez | 6'4" | 230 pounds | Idaho State
Matt Gutierrez completed 214 of 383 pass attempts for 2,523 yards, 17 TDs and 14 INTs while attending Idaho State. In 2006, he threw for 2,237 yards and 16 TDs.
Damn i thought he was going to do big shit at michigan but never did........He was dope at de la salle
 
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Damn i thought he was going to do big shit at michigan but never did........He was dope at de la salle
He fucked up his arm the season that Henne became the starter.. He was supposed to start that season, but he injured his arm and Henne took over.
 

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I agree with the greatest receiver of all time....

"They have nobody back there to throw the ball right now," Rice said of the Raiders on his show on SIRIUS NFL Radio last week. "So, to me, they would be stupid if they do not take (LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell) as their number one pick.

"With Russell, everything is there; the knowledge about the game. Yes, it's going to take him awhile to adjust to the speed of the NFL, but he has all the talent in the world. He can drop back, survey the field. You're looking at a QB that is 6(-foot), 6(-inches). You can see this quarterback release the football. This guy is going to do great things in the NFL."
 
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Jerry must have not watched Jamarcus play...didnt someone post what he did against good schools vs what he did to peon schools? Yeah, he didnt do well against good schools/defenses.

Brady looks good, but he hyped himself up too much and now he is starting to look like a jackass.

There are plenty of those QBs that are terrific LEADERS, but that doesnt make you a good QB. Zanbransky, Thompson, and Stocco are all great leaders.

Troy Smith has raw talent and was also a great leader.

Stanback will not make it as a QB, he is too shaky...but he does have a rocket of an arm. Look for him to be WR if anything.

Stanton has a great arm, but his IQ isnt anything spectacular.

Reggie Ball had the best WR in college football last year and had Calvin played under a GOOD QB, who KNOWS what his numbers would have looked like. Reggie SUCKS flat out.

Chris Leak is riding high on his championship, but he is also shaky at times. He does not like to run, even though he can. He makes poor decisions at times.

Palko is overrated in my eyes. He has an OK arm and his smarts are fairly high. I just dont know who well he would do as a starter.

Kolb isa goodyoung talent, however he played in a smaller conference and struggled a bit against opponenets from bigger conferences.

I like Beck alot. He has the tangibles to be a successful QB in the NFL.

I cant really pin down Taylor. He adapted well to the new system implemented 2 years ago. I didnt watch him play much so i cant call it.

As far as the others that played for smaller schools or below Div. 1a, i cant call it.
 

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Like Fatal said.... since when did teams consist of one player? I am pretty sure every player in the draft has had a bad game statistically or two!

CJ had bad games against Clemson and Georgia
Quinn had bad games against USC and LSU
 
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Here is the link and the post I originally wroye it in.

http://community.foxsports.com/blog...e_to_the_RaidersDO_NOT_DRAFT_JAMARCUS_RUSSELL

thascary1 said:
Here is somemore fuel to the already hot Fire.

Tony, you are almost alone here.

http://community.foxsports.com/blog...e_to_the_RaidersDO_NOT_DRAFT_JAMARCUS_RUSSELL

Note to the Raiders.....DO NOT DRAFT JAMARCUS RUSSELL!!!
Mar 07, 2007 | 7:24AM | report this

While most NFL Draft Prognosticators are predicting Oakland will draft JaMarcus Russell, I'm telling you that this would be an absolutely disastrous pick for the franchise and would serve as the final nail (both real and proverbial) in the Raiders coffin. While I'm not ready to say who the Raiders should draft with the first pick (actually I have a pretty good idea who I think they should pick but more on that in the next blog I post), here are the top 5 reasons the Raiders should stay away from JaMarcus Russell:

5) Nobody was talking about Russell before the Sugar Bowl. All season long we heard about Brady Quinn, Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson, Gaines Adams, or Joe Thomas contending for the top pick in the draft. John Clayton deemed this to be be "Brady Quinn's draft" before the NFL combine. I am always skeptical of players at any position that rise up the draft board based on a single game or what they do at the combine. This is especially true at the Quarterback position where using a top pick on a QB is often a make or break move for a franchise. Look how long the Chargers suffered after taking Ryan Leaf or how the Redskins suffered after taking Heath Shuler. You need to be wary of taking a QB with the top pick in the draft. Speaking of the combine, I know I would be concerned over the fact that Russell came in looking "a little flabby."



4) Not the right piece for a screwed up puzzle. If you want to see a recipe for disaster, this is it. You take a 31 year old first time Head Coach, two malcontent receivers in Moss and Porter, a wretched Offensive line and you throw in an unproven rookie QB who has had his work ethic questioned and his ability to read defenses scrutinized and you have what could turn out to be the greatest football disaster ever witnessed. Now you factor in this sideshow playing in front of 70,000 mad, rabid, crazed and drunken Raiders fans and the picture gets even uglier. Then you factor in the first time the hated Broncos come to town and the Russell has to face a secondary that includes Pro Bowlers Champ Bailey, Dre Bly and John Lynch and it would really be like watching a train wreck. It would be the most gruesome spectacle ever seen on television. If the Raiders had a more seasoned Head Coach (a Belichick, a Shanahan, a Dungy, a Cowher) then this could possibly work. The fact that the Raiders have a 31 year old Head Coach with NO HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE at any level, only one year of NFL coaching experience (Kiffin was the Jaguars "Defensive Quality Control Coach" in 2000...whatever the heck that is) does factor into this situation. Lets face it, nine years ago Kiffin was a Graduate Assistant at Fresno State and you're telling me that in less than ten years he can go from Graduate Assistant at a middling program to NFL Head coach? that's like going from legislative intern to U.S. Senator in three election cycles. It just doesn't happen!



3) He can't run and he's not mobile. Now I'm not saying that to be an NFL Quarterback you have to run. What I am saying is that when you play behind the worst Offensive Line in football, you have to be able to move in and out of the pocket. To be able to use the arm that can chuck a football 50 yards down the field, you need pass protection that will hold up while your receiver gets 50 yards down the filed. The Raiders O-Line is the worst in football. Statistically speaking they were the worst rated offense in the NFL in 2006. They gave up a league leading 72 sacks. The Lions gave up the second most at 63 sacks. That's nine sacks worse over 16 games. They were the only team in the NFL to lose over 400 yards from sacks. Do you really think it matters whether Russell can throw the ball 15 yards or 50 yards? Do you really think a rookie QB with a questionable work ethic and can't read defenses who is slow of foot can win in a situation like this? No way. Just check out the following image. This will happen to Russell about 80 times next year.




2) He will get eaten alive by the better pass defenses in the AFC East. Can you imagine what will be going through Russel's mind the first time he faces the Shawne Merriman and the Chargers pass rush? Can you fathom what Russell will be thinking the first time the Raiders play the Broncos and he is facing a secondary of Bailey, Bly and Lynch, three Pro-Bowlers? Can you contemplate wily old veterans (who stil have gas left in the tank) like Ty Law and Pat Surtain licking their chops at the prospect of facing a rookie QB when the Chiefs invade Oakland? Let's face it, a team can get better faster by building a running game, especially in the AFC West. There is absolutely no way the Raiders could build up their passing offense to be even remotely competitive in the AFC West next year.



1) He is just not an accurate passer. I spent this past weekend at the Nike Coach of the Year Football clinic in Orlando, Florida. One of the featured speakers on Saturday night was Les Miles, Head Coach at LSU. His session was on the LSU Red Zone offense. Now if you've never been to a football coaching clinic let me tell you what goes on in these sessions. Coaches will take a topic and bring in cut ups of game film from the past season and they will go through formations and plays that their teams ran. This is normally for the benefit of the High School coaches (or youth coaches like myself...Go Deland Knights!) who may be able to steal and idea or two from the film. Miles went through an hour of LSU Red Zone offensive plays from the 2006 season. Mind you, coaches usually only show the best plays for that particular scenario/situation so all we saw were the plays that Les Miles thought were the best executed plays in the redzone by the LSU offense. After watching about 30 red zone offensive plays I was in shock, as was much of the audience. How is it possible that a room full of youth and high school coaches can see that Russell is a terrible red zone QB but the Raiders can't see it. I can't tell you how many plays Russell was late getting off his throw, how many times he threw to a double or triple teamed receiver while another receiver was wide open or how many times he threw behind the receiver. Other than the post/corner route where he threw a pretty ball, Russel's passes were ugly. Panther, Mesh, T-Slop, Power Pass (all LSU offensive terminologies), it didn't matter. The passes were ugly. Let's face it folks, if you can't make it n the Red Zone in the NFL, you are done for. I counted at least 8-10 touchdowns that LSU scored that would have been picked off passes in the NFL. Now you might say that Russell only threw eight interceptions last year and that he's a fairly accurate passer. To that I would say, check his stats. Sure he racked up big numbers against inferior teams but let's see how he stacked up against better teams. I will give a team and follow that up with his touchdown and interception numbers for that game:

Louisiana-Lafayette - 3/0
Arizona - 2/1
Tulane - 2/0
Mississippi State - 3/0
Kentucky - 2/0
Fresno State - 2/0
Alabama - 3/0
Ole Miss - 3/0
Arkansas - 2/0
TOTAL - 19 Touchdowns, 1 Interception
Now you look at these numbers and say "Frank, you're crazy! Nineteen touchdowns and only 1 interception! Draft him, sign him, break the bank and hand over the franchise to him!" Of course, as my buddy Lee Corso says "not so fast my friend." let's see how Russell fared against the better defenses he faced, the defenses that are probably a lot closer to what he'll see in the NFL:

Florida - 1/3
Tennessee - 3/3
Notre Dame - 2/1
Auburn - 0/0
TOTAL - 6 Touchdowns, 7 Interceptions
Now I don't even think Notre Dame's defense was that good. Florida and Tennessee were probably the best defenses he faced all year and he threw six picks in those two games. Sure his overall stats for the season were great but there are no Louisiana - Lafayette's in the NFL. No Kentucky's, Tulane's, Fresno's or Arizona's in the NFL. The Florida defense was probably the absolute closest thing to an NFL defense and even they aren't as good defensively as the Chargers, Chiefs or Broncos.

Now you might say that the defenses will be better in the NFL but the offensive support that Russell gets will also be better in the NFL. I would say refer to points three and four above.

So if they don't take Russell, who should they take? I'm not going to get into that now but I will give you a little hint....
 

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He fucked up his arm the season that Henne became the starter.. He was supposed to start that season, but he injured his arm and Henne took over.
thanks for sharing that.......ive talked to his little brother in a min so the only thing i knew was that he never played at michigan.......

I thought he was going to be dope in the pros along with dj williams being a powerful beast of a running back......... but things dont always turn out the way you see them.........
 
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Louisiana-Lafayette - 3/0
Arizona - 2/1
Tulane - 2/0
Mississippi State - 3/0
Kentucky - 2/0
Fresno State - 2/0
Alabama - 3/0
Ole Miss - 3/0
Arkansas - 2/0
TOTAL - 19 Touchdowns, 1 Interception
Guess how many of these teams had records better than .500 or went to a bowl this year?

45-54 was the combined record of these schools with 2 teams over .500 and those 2 teams went to bowls.


Florida - 1/3
Tennessee - 3/3
Notre Dame - 2/1
Auburn - 0/0
TOTAL - 6 Touchdowns, 7 Interceptions
Now, guess how many of these teams were over .500 and went to a bowl game this year?

43-10 combined record with ALL teams over .500 and ALL teams in bowls. One of which was the NC.