WHEN DID THE WEST COAST FELL OFF?

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YO, WHEN DID THE WEST COAST FELL OFF?



IF Y'ALL GOT SOME REAL INFO OF WHEN WESTCOAST MUSIC STARTED SLIPPIN ON MAINSTREAM RADIO AND NATIONAL SALES , POP IT IN DEESE THREAD, FOSHO.
WHAT YEAR DO YOU THINK THE WEST COAST MUSIC FELL OFF THE MAINSTREAM?


MAYBE IF WE CAN FIND THE CAUSES OF THE PROBLEM, WE CAN ALL FIND A SOLUTION TO THE DAMN WALL THAT IS BLOCKIN' OUR PAPER STACKIN.
THERE IS PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT SAY THAT THE WEST COAST RAP LOST THEIR MAINSTREAM CRED
AFTER PAC.



DO YOU ALL AGREE OR NOT:
Is West Coast Rap too HARD for the Radio?
Is West Coast Music too real for the mainstream to handle?


Which year did mainstream commercial East Coast/Midwest/Dirty South radio and tv stopped spinning constant WestCoast Music :
1996?
1997?
1998?
1999?
1995?
2000?

 
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being that most of the major labels and major connects are on the east coast i would say around the time Big died...
whatever year Snoop went to No Limit...
when Dre stopped fuckin with West Coast artists...
when everyone on the West tried to be anutha 2Pac...


just a few guesses off the top...i'm hella bored
 
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being that most of the major labels and major connects are on the east coast
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Thats not actually true its a bout a 60/40 split between major labels on the west and on the eastcoast. You got to remember that LA is the home to almost half of the major labels and is the entertainment capital of the world so theres more connests in LA than anywhere.
 
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WHEN IT FELL OFF "MAINSTREAM" 2 ME Iz WHEN ALOT OF IMPACT PLAYERz ON DA WEST START'D DO'N MO NETWORK'N ON DA EAST DEN N DA WEST.....

DEN ALL DA NORF CALI/SOUF CALI BEEF'N ON WAx AN SHIT DIDNT HELP DA CAUSE 2 MUCH EITHA.....

FO YRz I'VE WATCH'D ALOT OF EAST COAST ARTISTz MIMIC DA WESTCOAST STYLE OR RAP AN BEATz ( DEY EVEN USED/USE CLASSIC WESTCOAST BEATz ON MANY PROJECTz 2 DEY OWN BENEFIT.....

AN ON DA EAST COAST DEREz NOT 2 MUCH RADIO PLAY FO WESTCOAST ARTISTz....

IN MA OPINION, 2 GET BAQ N DA SPOTLIGHT ALL OF THOzE GOTTA CHANGE AN WE NEED MO UNITY ON DA WESTCOAST.....

DAS Y DIz IM INTEREST'D N DA MOTIVEz OF DIz WHOLE "WESTCOAST UNITY PEACE MOVEMENT" SHIT.....

AN I WANNA C WHERE IT GOEz AN WHUT/WHO WILL BENEFIT FRUM IT ALL....


- GEEzUz
 
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^what the feezy? your trippin homeboy my answer would be 99'
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Your trippin the west coast aint never FELL off.If anything the west coast got to many weak niggas who wanna rap.It aint just the west coast who getting weak rappers its everywhere.And when people keep asking who falling off you makin yourself look stupid to keep asking.there niggas out the bay alone who been makin moves but people so stupid out here thinking there aint nobody.Westcoast aint never fell off
 
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to me, i don't believe the Westcoast ever fell off. there is nothing to fall off in the first place. we got Westcoast artists always doing major, but it's never any of our favorite underground rappers, so we just say the Westcoast fell off. Westcoast ain't went nowhere, we still got big names in the game. they play the games shit like they do lil jons shit, or whoever else you think is dominating the rap scene. we don't even give our coast recognition, we just say we fell off. i don't know what's up with that. i don't know what it would take for everyone to stop saying that the Westcoast fell off. does anyone know? my two cents....
 
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savage said:
i don't know what it would take for everyone to stop saying that the Westcoast fell off. does anyone know? my two cents....
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it would take for us to start doin that same bullshit that everybody on th emainstream level is doin...if we start doin this i promise you everybody will start givin the westcoast its recognition...i'm not suggestion that we do this, but this is what will make it happen for us...just my thoughts...
 
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Your trippin the west coast aint never FELL off.If anything the west coast got to many weak niggas who wanna rap.It aint just the west coast who getting weak rappers its everywhere.And when people keep asking who falling off you makin yourself look stupid to keep asking.there niggas out the bay alone who been makin moves but people so stupid out here thinking there aint nobody.Westcoast aint never fell off
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He was asking when the west fell off the mainstream. We all know that the west didn't fall off music wise because the underground been doin it. But if you being real wit yourself, you have to admit that the west DID fall off the mainstream. Its just a fact.
 
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you mean make club songs? if we do that, then they're probably just going to say that we're just followers and soft.

i don't care what anyone says though. i still listen to my favorite rappers all the time, regardless if he's on bet or not. my fav rappers are still on top in my cd changer.
 
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*********fell off*********


WHAT THE FUCK,WASTE OF A THREAD,THE WEST HASNT WENT ANYWHERE........DAMN.......I HOPE THE DUDE WHO STARTED THIS THREAD ISNT FROM THE BAY,CAUSE THE WEST AINT WENT NOWARE
 
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YUP, I DONT THINK THE WEST EVER FELL OFF. THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED WAS THE PEOPLE WHO "CONTROL MOST OF THE RAP BUSINESS" IS IN THE EAST. YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THEY GOT ABSOLUTELY NO LOVE FOR THE WEST. BASICALLY, THEIR JUST HATING AND OPPRESSING THE WEST BY NOT GIVING THEM ANY MEDIA OUTLETS.
 
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IMO the westcoast never fell off. We were just the only coast not to sell out to the major record labels and mtv/bet. After pac died mainstream turned pussy. All the fake rappers blew up. Mainly fluff daddy. I blame that mothafucka for the state of hip hop.
 
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I think the west coast never fell off, it just went underground. The west is too "gangsta" for the majority of the country to feel.
After pac died, I think is when shit went downhill....First time i ever heard C-Bo was on Tradin War Stories... Pac had the biggest label in the country puttin his shit out, and he stayed true to his roots, havin Rappin 4 Tay and other dudes on his shit... gettin exposure for these guys.
Everybody loves to get crunk..everyone can relate to that shit...so they buy it.

Game spits some shit that most people can feel.. and he has the biggest label backing him...Why you think hes so big?
Not everyone is slangin dope, bustin guns and pimpin ho's, and it all sounds the same to your average american consumer...
gotta get past all that.
 
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Pac had the biggest label in the country puttin his shit out, and he stayed true to his roots
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lol Death Rows never been the biggest label in the country. Cats need to realize that although these major independent labels like Death Row, Bad Boy, Rocafella, Def Jam etc... Are all doin big things, there not even close to the big wig labels like, Universal, Jive, Virgin, Sony etc.... Their in a whole nother league but I feel what your tryin to say.

THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED WAS THE PEOPLE WHO "CONTROL MOST OF THE RAP BUSINESS" IS IN THE EAST.
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lol nothing has changed in terms of label ownership from back when the west was on top until right now. Everybody needs to understand that knowbody can stay on top for ever thats just reality. Things change and every region will have its turn to run shit at one point or another, its just how things happen. Quit blaming it on the fact that a lot of labels are based in the eastcoast. That has nothing to do with it. Because like I said about 40% of all labels are headquartered in LA. The real reason the west fell off the mainstream is because rap shifted towards that bling bling, commercial bullshit and the west was never about that so we had to take it to the only place where that real shit still existed, the underground.
 
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Did anybody read about da Tupac theory on West Coast Rap within the mainstream in the Guardian? Thanks to Killa Tay for reminding me about this article which all of y'all can read to understand on the Tupac theory with the state of West Coast music:

The post-2Pac pack
http://www.sfbg.com/39/24/cover_post_2pac.html

Do you agree with the article above?

If any playa in here that was mentioned or interviewed for this article, tell us if the reporter did the piece right, did their research, or was off the mark, mayn.
 
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