What's good weight gain protein powders?

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KillaKali said:
I heard if you fuck with protein powders, they give you those rocks in your piss that you gotta piss out. Is that true or a str8 lie?
I drink a protein shake at least 4 times a week, and have been doing so since before the start of the year. No rocks yet....not even close.



Just stay hydrated no matter what. Any time you ask your body to do something extra---allow you to run 5 miles instead of 2, put on muscle or drop fat, eat 2 large pizzas without a stomach ache, etc..--give it more than just extra food. Give it WATER. It always helps.
 
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Jar said:
i take 3 scoops of protein after i workout. do i really have to take anything pre-workout? i usually take 2 GNC Mega Men Sport multivitamins before i workout though
Multivitamins are very important, so good.

3 scoops post-workout sounds a bit overkill. The only reason to take whey protein post workout is because it absorbs very quickly and your body digests it in about a half an hour. After a workout, your body NEEDS THIS. If you take too much, your just wasting it and ending up with some bad protein farts. But then again I don't know how much you weigh, how long your training sessions are, or how long you've been training for.

I usually stick to 1 - 2 scoops whey protein post workout. Then about an hour later I have a solid meal. Normally a large chicken breast, or 8-9 oz beef, or fish, vegetables (brockoly or cauliflower), small salad, and a cup of milk, etc.

If you use creatine monohydrate or glutamine it's good to take one serving pre-workout and post-workout with a insulin spike, such as gatorade with water or powerade with water. My favorite though is Welch's Grape.

And yeah, drink a lot of water, it's very important, you may be taking a piss every 25-30 minutes but, you'll be hydrated and your body will thank you for it. I normally drink a gallon or so on off days, on days I train, I drink much more, during a session I go through a few litres.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Eat eggs.....The whole fucking egg. -- Keep in mind that saying that the cholesterol is bad for you is like saying being a Vegetarian/Vegan will make you frail and weak. It's incorrect. You just have to know what you're doing and what you're eating.

Protein powders, grab whatever. Doesn't really matter. Something cheap will do the trick just as much as the gimmick products that cost twice as much and have 150 add-ins thrown in.

Glutamine, Creatine, NO3....all good stuff to have. But if you're asking weightlifting questions on this forum, there's a 99% chance you don't need all that right now anyways.
Agree. Except for protein powders. I wouldn't recommend just anything, but I would recommend Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey. It's cheap and it's pretty much regarded as one of the best bang for your buck whey protein supplements.

For serious trainers, supplementing with glutamine and creatine is essential IMO. Taking a supplement with N03 is really an experimental toss-up, you'll either notice it, or not. If you notice an improvement, good. I personally didn't notice much of a difference with a N03 supplement. I've only tried one brand though. I find the best supplement you can invest in, bar-none, is basic creatine monohydrate! Stay away from creatine serums, and all that bullshit. Monohydrate is what works. Glutamine is also your best investment, along with a good multivitamin, and protein powder. That's just the essentials of a serious trainer.

Eggs are very important, especially for muscle growth. Egg protein is the most valuable source of protein for a trainer/bodybuilder/anyone because it's amino acid profile is basically designed for human growth. This is why for years it has been the standard for which other sources of protein measure up to. It's the real deal, if you want muscle, eat your eggs in the morning, and lots of them!

The only time I would recommend taking out a yolk or two for every 3 eggs or so is if you are sensitive to cholesterol in egg yolks, or if your a very serious trainer and are eating anywhere from 12 to 15 to 20 eggs a day. Otherwise, eat the whole thing, you get more nutrition out of it. Most people are unaffected by the cholesterol in eggs. Remember there is bad cholesterol (LDL), and good cholesterol (HDL) that won't affect you.

Peace.
 
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KillaKali said:
Cardio for about 30-45 mins along with basketball for about an hour. Sometimes more.

Sit ups - 10 set of 30

Bench - 10 sets of 15

Curls - 10 sets of 20

Dips - 10 sets of 20

200 diamond push ups after evry work out as well. I fux with some other machines but I dont know what their called.:dead:
WTF?

This is why your not gaining any weight man. Too much cardio, and for the limited weight training you do, it sounds like you are not using NEARLY enough volume as you need. 10 Sets of 15 for Bench? What!?!? That's crazy wrong dude. Anyways, You'll need to be eating 3-4 times your regular caloric intake to gain anything while doing THAT much cardio. And with a really fast metabolism. If that. And with such an under-developed routine like that, good luck! That routine is pretty much useless as far as mass and lean, solid muscle gain goes. You need to use a split and you need to use free weights.


An example of a split I would recommend for you would be something real simple like:

Day 1: Legs & Shoulders
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Back & Biceps
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: Chest & Triceps (Cardio In The Morning)
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Rest

You can put a cardio session on one of those days, or two if you'd like. Just don't put cardio on leg day or the day after leg day. You can also throw your abdominal/oblique type workouts in there somewhere. You only need to train your abdominals/obliques once a week, just like ANY other muscle, there's no need to train it more than once a week. If you REALLY like push-ups, do them on CHEST DAY, and do them at the end of your chest routine until you hit failure. Otherwise your wasting your time with those. And as far as abdominals, try some weighted crunches dude.


Remember, if your doing CARDIO while trying to GAIN weight, you won't have much LUCK. That's just not how it works, this is a science, a simple science, but a science at that. Cardio = more calories burned. More calories burned = more you have to eat to compensate. If you don't eat more to compensate for those lost calories = you don't gain weight. And right now your burning way too many calories, and probably not even eating enough calories to begin with. Your routine is really, naive in a way.


Tips: Don't train two major muscle groups in the same day. Notice on the split above, I paired large muscle groups with smaller muscle groups. I also put the large muscle groups before the smaller groups. This is because you want to train your largest muscle for the first half of your session, once failure is met, move on to the smaller muscle and train that to the fullest. Unless your trying to pre-exhaust yourself intentionally, always train larger muscle groups first.


Keep workouts to 45-60 minutes super high intensity and volume. Any longer and you'll be wasting your time buddy.


Use proper form. Don't take a heavy weight and try to lift it in a proper amount of reps and sets just for your ego. Your trying to gain muscle, not inflate your ego, so, keep the weights controlled. You want an amount of weight that will challenge you, to a point by around the 8-10th rep, you reach failure and can't lift it. You'll want 3-4 sets for smaller muscle groups, and for large muscle groups, especially legs, you can get away with a few more sets if you like. As far as volume, don't pick a weight too heavy where you sacrifice form. You also don't want the weight too light. So, experiment.


Exercises I recommend, real quick:

Legs: Barbell Squats, Hack Squats, Leg Press, Calf Raises, Lunges, Etc.

Back: Pull-Ups! That's right. Wide-grip pull ups. Palm facing forward preferably. If you can get down on your pull ups, you will see gains.

T-Bar Rows, Lat Pull-downs, Seated Rows, and Deadlifts! Infact you can take 3-4 sets each of just Pull-Ups, Deadlifts, and T-Bar Rows for Back day, totaling to about 10-11 sets for just one main muscle group, about 45-55 minutes long, and make some serious gains in your back and overall body.

Chest: Wighted Dips, Dumbell bench press, Barbell bench press, Dumbell flys, etc.

Shoulders: Military Press, Arnold Press, Dumbell Lateral Raises (Side, Front, Back) For back lateral raises, you should be seated and leaned over. You can also use cables.

Biceps: Barbell curls, Alternating dumbell curls, Preacher curls, Concentration curls, Cable curls, cable curls are excellent especially since you can change the weight so easily, you can do all sorts of pyramids to hit failure.

Triceps: Skull crushers, Close-Grip Bench press (I love this exercise), Standing tricep extensions, cable extensions, Tricep pushdowns, etc.

One exercise I left out was Shrugs (To hit the trapezius muscle). And you can either put that on Back day or Shoulder day. I prefer putting it on Back day.

Remember there are MANY variations to each exercise, many exercises that can be performed with a dumbell can be performed with a cable machine. Don't be afraid to use free weights, but don't be afraid to use MACHINES either. Machines are important because they are designed to hit the targeted muscle while giving the supporting muscles time off. This means that if you use a machine and you go to failure, your more likely to put the intended muscle group to failure, before the supporting groups. Which is what you want. When you use free weights, sometimes your supporting muscle groups reach failure before the MAIN muscle group does. This can be due to many reasons, the main reason is bad form, so make sure you practice form. And always start your routines off with free weights, you want to start using machines closer to the end of your workouts, so you can properly get all those muscles to failure. It's real simple.

Good luck dude. Hope this helps ya'll out there. Just some basic advice. I'm sick of writing about all this though lol, so I'm out.

Samos

PM me if you have any questions.
 
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Another tip:

For splits, they work in cycles or loops. So for 4-6 weeks do the split above, and then CHANGE IT, and change your routines also. For another 4-6 weeks. Keep cycling it and changing your routines.

The beginning of muscle growth starts by breaking down micro fibres, micro tears. You do this by lifting heavy weights and constantly pushing yourself. The body adapts RAPIDLY, so you must always be changing what you do. If something works, stick with it until it doesn't, and then change it to shock your muscles. You must always be making increases in the amount of weight you lift every month, even if it's just 5 extra lbs on the bench press, or upping the amount you bench every week to 1-2 pounds more, growth in volume is important, it keeps your muscles working. Once you break down your muscle, and it recoups, it grows back stronger, meaning, if you keep using the same weight and same routines for long periods of time, you will stop making gains. Having muscle is actually an inconvenience for the body, that's why there is such a thing called muscle catabolism, where your body will actually use your muscle for energy. So it's important to research and follow good nutrition and stay on point with yourself. You want to constantly be in an anabolic state, and that is hard work.

Peace
 
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i started lifting again 3 weeks ago, and took weight gainer for the first week. I put on substancial muscle for the first week. I stop taking it, kinda lost a bit of size but still benching what i did when i stop working out a year and half ago.

I think if you want to keep the weight you got to keep on taking it. don't taste bad either. Oh yeah to brag a bit i benched 270 4 reps last week and was curling 60's, so yeah its pry the cheapest way to put it on.
 
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@Samos - Good look on the tips fam. Now that I saw all the diff type of workouts you named, I'm glad to say I've been doing most of them. Jus didnt know the names to them. But I do work out all muscles each workout so I guess I needa stop that. & yesterday I jus started doing heavier weights & less sets which is unusual for me cuzz I'm so used to doing hella sets with little weights but makes sense what you said. Good looks on evrything though.