what yall think about the new attack on the rap industry?

  • Wanna Join? New users you can now register lightning fast using your Facebook or Twitter accounts.

BASEDVATO

Judo Chop ur Spirit
May 8, 2002
8,623
20,808
113
45
#1
Well its not new, but taking off where doloris tucker left off.

Ever since that idiots imus remark they are blamen rap music in a big way.

Opera haven a 2 part show on it. You have Al sharpten s/p and a lot of groups getting a national platform to hate on rap.

They want us all sounding like Mos def and common.

Personally I think its good for rap, in the sense that it shows we are still the genre that don't care what old folks think and they just Adden fuel to the fire. Maybe we should play 2pacs wonder why they call you bitch song for them again!

What yall think?
 
Aug 7, 2006
2,004
0
0
#2
well to me it makes since how every song you see on bet to the radio is strip club music. In a way its hard to speak positive on rap music when its nothin but stripper songs ya feel. the only thing is the older heads are sayin its garbage but there the ones controlling what they play on BET and whats on the radio. Payola is always there
 

BASEDVATO

Judo Chop ur Spirit
May 8, 2002
8,623
20,808
113
45
#3
I feel you but its on a higher level then rappers! Its labels and programmers, consumers!

Its what the people want! Raps a blood sport if you soft your weak! Its what r&B's for! Plus its hood music its not love songs!

This country is confussed on what it wants pretty much!

Do I call my wife ho? Nah, but would I call a hooker or a stripper a ho, or some chick grinden in a club a ho! Yes! Cause she feeding that mold we layed!
 
Feb 28, 2007
491
4
0
36
#5
Its all about what sells most them cats that talk head about rap and hip hop dont hear it all. I feel them when they say its degratin and all that good stuff but they only see the type of shit thats being pushed. so before they go and blame all rap and hip hop artists they need to see what is being held underground cuz theres a grip of artists that will have them blown away
 
Aug 7, 2006
2,004
0
0
#6
N JAIL U MY HOE said:
I feel you but its on a higher level then rappers! Its labels and programmers, consumers!

Its what the people want! Raps a blood sport if you soft your weak! Its what r&B's for! Plus its hood music its not love songs!
its not what people want its what they make them want, speak to anyone in corporate board rooms. strait from there mouth they know rap cosumers are the most ignorant and so its there job to spoon feed you what they want you to believe. for example you can make the most stupid ass song with a long bass line. if you have heads like lyer cohen or people on top who control the airwaves (middleground markets) to stretch it across the demographic it can easily be a hit. Its simple
 

BASEDVATO

Judo Chop ur Spirit
May 8, 2002
8,623
20,808
113
45
#7
Its a double edge sword still.

But labels make artist switch up its a known fact! So labels have a bigger responsibility in this matter! They got the money!
 
Apr 25, 2002
7,232
170
63
43
www.idealsentertainment.com
#8
Here's what I posted on myspace yesterday on the whole shit...interesting you brought it up...

So I've been seeing on the news lately that people across the country are blaming Rap music for Don Imus' stupid remarks on his radio show. Well, they aren't really BLAMING us, but we are now the ones being looked at.

First off, Don Imus is a grown man, and I doubt he figured he'd say what he said because he heard it on a rap record. GET OVER IT! Do I agree that rap artists need to change their direction and try to teach a better way of living? Of course I do...but why attack us when we point out the negatives?? This shit came from higher powers. We, as artists, did not create what is wrong with America...we simply exposed it all.

If a woman can call another woman a bitch, or if a woman can call herself a bitch, what is wrong with us doing it when necessary? You all have to understand, we know the difference between women and bitches...and if women call men assholes when they act like assholes, why is it frowned upon when we turn it around? What's with the double standards here? We have extreme feminists that say all men are bastards and women don't need us...why aren't they ever questioned on national television? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND LET US SPEAK OUR MINDS...the constitution allows for everybody to do that...but you people who run this country don't like that artists can reach a million minds everytime we say something.

Why don't you worry about more important shit? For example, how stupid our children are getting every day because you keep cutting educational programs and telling people how they should raise their kids!?!? Get it together. Were you spanked? I was, by hand and kitchen utensils...and look, I'm not in prison. It seems the less people discipline their kids, the more their kids act like complete jackasses.

So, instead of focusing on US, focus on YOU and what is really important. Rap artists saying what they feel doesn't ruin a country or youthful minds. What ruins a country and youthful minds is, a bunch of hardheaded jackasses in business suits that only give a fuck about their own bottom line....and will do anything to keep their dollars rolling in. While you government officials are at it, why don't you ban cigarettes and stop fuckin' with people who smoke weed to gain an appetite and ease the pain of terminal illnesses. You made it legal for people to get lung cancer, and you made it illegal for them to self-medicate. Why don't you tell my deceased grandmother why you allow people to smoke?

While I'm on a tangent here, why do you think it's ok to spend money on impotence before we have a cure for the most deadly diseases rocking the world today? Are old men going to die if they don't get a hard-on? Don't blame Hip-Hop for societies ills, thank your fucked up politics and unimportant shit that, for reasons uknown to me, are at the top of your to-do list.
 
Apr 25, 2002
4,444
495
83
#9
Politicians and the US government should be spending their money on better things than the War on Rap, but that said Rappers should have taken the initiative years ago.

Rap has denerated into redundant, unexciting "bitch this" "hoe that" "Fuck you I'll kill you" and so on, and if you think any different you are flat out lying.

Rappers don't sell any records these days because they arent original.

NO MAINSTREAM OR BAY AREA RAPPER even made a song about 9/11 or Iraq or any government policies that send inner city youth out to die for a cause we question.

Think about that.

The Don Imus link to gangsta rap is he said what every rapper on the planet says, the difference is he got fired.
 

Quick

Active member
May 6, 2002
6,443
30
48
Yay Area, CA
#10
Rap is an easy target........


Females complaining about rap but whos the bigger consumer of rap music???Females...... Who do these rappers make these degrading songs???? becuz females want to shake their ass in the club.......
 
Jan 1, 2006
5,007
5
0
40
#11
livemanikins said:
well to me it makes since how every song you see on bet to the radio is strip club music.
Agreed... basically all the stations that air RAP music videos are only showing them because of the eye candy in em. You can catch other videos but the vast majority is big tigoes and butts (SEXY). But this music is censored when it goes on air. Imus is just using this as a scrape goat. So unless he's bumping rap on the low that's pretty low to say "today's media made me do it."

This didn't happen when Michael Richards used the "N" word. But if Richards had said rap had an influence on him then all rap would have been criticized.

Hoes=Easy... so if rap switched "hoes" to "easy girls" would there still be controversy?
 
Oct 30, 2002
11,091
1,888
113
www.soundclick.com
#12
Sydal said:
Here's what I posted on myspace yesterday on the whole shit...interesting you brought it up...

So I've been seeing on the news lately that people across the country are blaming Rap music for Don Imus' stupid remarks on his radio show. Well, they aren't really BLAMING us, but we are now the ones being looked at.

First off, Don Imus is a grown man, and I doubt he figured he'd say what he said because he heard it on a rap record. GET OVER IT! Do I agree that rap artists need to change their direction and try to teach a better way of living? Of course I do...but why attack us when we point out the negatives?? This shit came from higher powers. We, as artists, did not create what is wrong with America...we simply exposed it all.

If a woman can call another woman a bitch, or if a woman can call herself a bitch, what is wrong with us doing it when necessary? You all have to understand, we know the difference between women and bitches...and if women call men assholes when they act like assholes, why is it frowned upon when we turn it around? What's with the double standards here? We have extreme feminists that say all men are bastards and women don't need us...why aren't they ever questioned on national television? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND LET US SPEAK OUR MINDS...the constitution allows for everybody to do that...but you people who run this country don't like that artists can reach a million minds everytime we say something.

Why don't you worry about more important shit? For example, how stupid our children are getting every day because you keep cutting educational programs and telling people how they should raise their kids!?!? Get it together. Were you spanked? I was, by hand and kitchen utensils...and look, I'm not in prison. It seems the less people discipline their kids, the more their kids act like complete jackasses.

So, instead of focusing on US, focus on YOU and what is really important. Rap artists saying what they feel doesn't ruin a country or youthful minds. What ruins a country and youthful minds is, a bunch of hardheaded jackasses in business suits that only give a fuck about their own bottom line....and will do anything to keep their dollars rolling in. While you government officials are at it, why don't you ban cigarettes and stop fuckin' with people who smoke weed to gain an appetite and ease the pain of terminal illnesses. You made it legal for people to get lung cancer, and you made it illegal for them to self-medicate. Why don't you tell my deceased grandmother why you allow people to smoke?

While I'm on a tangent here, why do you think it's ok to spend money on impotence before we have a cure for the most deadly diseases rocking the world today? Are old men going to die if they don't get a hard-on? Don't blame Hip-Hop for societies ills, thank your fucked up politics and unimportant shit that, for reasons uknown to me, are at the top of your to-do list.
thats real...


so they still cool with kontac and the "united states destroying rappers" going on oprah???
 

BASEDVATO

Judo Chop ur Spirit
May 8, 2002
8,623
20,808
113
45
#13
I just think its stupid how they link imus to rap like they was waiten for a reason

But I agree rap is on broken record status we need to do somthen to revive the culture before we play ourselfs out to death
 
Jan 17, 2006
2,094
0
0
36
#17
people act like there was no problems b4 rap started....fuckin stupid


but really tho, they act like its hella dudes out there ridin around in cars wit other guys slappin "Ima Flirt" or some shit.....hella stupid
 
Dec 18, 2005
51
0
0
40
#18
Sydal said:
Here's what I posted on myspace yesterday on the whole shit...interesting you brought it up...

So I've been seeing on the news lately that people across the country are blaming Rap music for Don Imus' stupid remarks on his radio show. Well, they aren't really BLAMING us, but we are now the ones being looked at.

First off, Don Imus is a grown man, and I doubt he figured he'd say what he said because he heard it on a rap record. GET OVER IT! Do I agree that rap artists need to change their direction and try to teach a better way of living? Of course I do...but why attack us when we point out the negatives?? This shit came from higher powers. We, as artists, did not create what is wrong with America...we simply exposed it all.

If a woman can call another woman a bitch, or if a woman can call herself a bitch, what is wrong with us doing it when necessary? You all have to understand, we know the difference between women and bitches...and if women call men assholes when they act like assholes, why is it frowned upon when we turn it around? What's with the double standards here? We have extreme feminists that say all men are bastards and women don't need us...why aren't they ever questioned on national television? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND LET US SPEAK OUR MINDS...the constitution allows for everybody to do that...but you people who run this country don't like that artists can reach a million minds everytime we say something.

Why don't you worry about more important shit? For example, how stupid our children are getting every day because you keep cutting educational programs and telling people how they should raise their kids!?!? Get it together. Were you spanked? I was, by hand and kitchen utensils...and look, I'm not in prison. It seems the less people discipline their kids, the more their kids act like complete jackasses.

So, instead of focusing on US, focus on YOU and what is really important. Rap artists saying what they feel doesn't ruin a country or youthful minds. What ruins a country and youthful minds is, a bunch of hardheaded jackasses in business suits that only give a fuck about their own bottom line....and will do anything to keep their dollars rolling in. While you government officials are at it, why don't you ban cigarettes and stop fuckin' with people who smoke weed to gain an appetite and ease the pain of terminal illnesses. You made it legal for people to get lung cancer, and you made it illegal for them to self-medicate. Why don't you tell my deceased grandmother why you allow people to smoke?

While I'm on a tangent here, why do you think it's ok to spend money on impotence before we have a cure for the most deadly diseases rocking the world today? Are old men going to die if they don't get a hard-on? Don't blame Hip-Hop for societies ills, thank your fucked up politics and unimportant shit that, for reasons uknown to me, are at the top of your to-do list.
You say that rap didn't create the problems and that it just exposed it, well you forgot that it perpetuates it and glorifies them. Rather than describing black on black crime as negative and horrifying in songs, it is used in lyrics to show how "hard" a rapper is. Rather than taking a stand and abhorring what the government did in the eighties by implanting crack into inner cities, rap glorifies the drug. Rather than making music that would make people in inner cities say "hey we should fuckin do something about this." most popular rap music just glorifies the disempowerment of people living in inner cities.

I don't see how you can use double standards as an argument in support of the word "bitch" when a man that gets a lot of girls is looked at positively while a woman who gets a lot of men is described negatively. If I recall correctly, most men who buy into the habit of using the word "bitch" to describe females loosely will use the word for a woman based simply on what they look like and sometimes not even that. Extreme feminists aren't questioned for what they say because their message has not proven to be as dangerous and polluting to society as those in popular rap music. You say that you have the right to speak your minds, of course that's a given, but the white men in suits decide what will be put on mtv and on the radio. They love seeing the perpetuation of inequaltity and chaos within non-white communities. Sow ho is more to blame, the white man in the suit who seeks out a black rap artist to promote and glorify a message of self-destructive violence and anti-education or the rapper who signs the contract and further feeds the message to the community he came from?

Hardly anyone I know would deny that our government is corrupt and that our system is set up to keep non-whites powerless, but what do you expect to happen? These rich white people in power magically saying "you know what I'm tired of my race of people having all this fucking power, let's equalize education, teach people how to make changes and actually start to enforce anti-discrimnation policy". Fuck no, change has to start from the people who are suppressed not the suppressors. Does glorifying self destruction, degradation of women and mterialism act as a catalyst for social change? no it's the opposite. You made a lot of complaints about society, as you should, so I find it confusing as to how you can not acknowledge the role of popular rap music in programming the minds of our youth to not strive for change. No one's just gonna hand you justice.
 
Mar 20, 2005
260
0
0
#19
I'll say it again....fuck Al Sharpton. It's the same ole integration, sell-out, house nig shit. Fucked up part about it all is these dumb ass, believe what the preacher man tell em muthafuckas gonna roll with it....again.