What makes East Coast artists weak?
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I've heard tight rap music from every corner of the globe and yes, that includes the east coast. Anyone who says every rapper & every beat coming from the east is wack, is someone who doesn't even deserve to have their posts read.
No, radio playlists & MTV don't dictate what people like. The younger kids are influenced in that way but grown adults arn't. If someone 25+ years old buys a Jay-Z album, it's not because he's a 'zombie' with no opinions of his own... It's because homeboy decided for himself that Jay-Z was spittin' fire, had nice beats, or both.
I know a whole lot of people who don't listen to the radio, watch music video channels and don't take other peoples word for it that something is hot, and still wind up liking music labelled as "mainstream".
One last thing... All these 'mainstream' rappers ain't selling anywhere near what you probably think they are. For 95% of them, it isn't half as big as you think but a lot of you cats buy into the charade.
No, radio playlists & MTV don't dictate what people like. The younger kids are influenced in that way but grown adults arn't. If someone 25+ years old buys a Jay-Z album, it's not because he's a 'zombie' with no opinions of his own... It's because homeboy decided for himself that Jay-Z was spittin' fire, had nice beats, or both.
I know a whole lot of people who don't listen to the radio, watch music video channels and don't take other peoples word for it that something is hot, and still wind up liking music labelled as "mainstream".
One last thing... All these 'mainstream' rappers ain't selling anywhere near what you probably think they are. For 95% of them, it isn't half as big as you think but a lot of you cats buy into the charade.
iono...east coast has a lot of mainstream shit that yall be bumpin like fat joe n 50 cent... But as far as underground goes as well as the more popular shit, I think that it just varies pretty much on where u living... I mean east coast cats talk way differently than west coast catz, so therefore their raps are different. ya kno what i'm saying? So obviously we aint really gona feel all dat underground shit they be bumpin and they not gona feel much of ours unless you got an eclectic taste.
My own personal opinion though, we got the most different rhyme stylez n shit. We alwayz got new innovations on how to spit some ill shit. Like east coast all their shit basically follows the same rhyme style. Their voices bore me to death. Wu-tang, Nas ... they're tite though you gotta give em propz even if they're slightly overrated.
heh..but east coast knows cali is the place to be. We got the flyest bichez, the best cars, the best weather, the best chronic...shieeet. You can't fukc wit cali game.
My own personal opinion though, we got the most different rhyme stylez n shit. We alwayz got new innovations on how to spit some ill shit. Like east coast all their shit basically follows the same rhyme style. Their voices bore me to death. Wu-tang, Nas ... they're tite though you gotta give em propz even if they're slightly overrated.
heh..but east coast knows cali is the place to be. We got the flyest bichez, the best cars, the best weather, the best chronic...shieeet. You can't fukc wit cali game.
i only read the first post and had to jump to reply real quick in regards to mobb deep among other east coast rappers being weak, man.... there is no question Mobb Deep has some sick ass flows, and the production is sick, The Imfamous, Hell on Earth, Murder Musik, it has been slightly down hill from those albums, Imfamy and Americaz Nightwares were not the top of there form but still solid. I think theres just as much bullshit being put out on both coasts. and to the guy talkin about east coast only talks about jewelry big trucks etc, you have a real twisted perception of east coast music if all your watching is mtv and bet, dont let those outlets fog your perception as the only shit coming out of the east coast. i think music as a whole is going to shit, i rarely buy albums anymore, I just listen to older shit
seems like you dont seem to get it, regardless of the topic, people have opinions, while a battle of factual data can eventually lead to an outcome, the same cannot be said for a discussion regarding opinions, it seems like you just brought the conversation here (directed at cats who aint feelin the east coast) to feel better about yourself and your opinion, since my guess is your getting verbally assaulted on the other message board, post up the link to the forum so we can get a peek
kanye is a weak rapper. all the other work he does is koo besides his flow. jay-z, damn i cant stand listenin 2 that song with Lincoln Park. the only song i was really feelin from jay-z would b ' Big Pimpin '. Nas is tight. aint never paid atention to camron.jadakiss is also raw. some east coast shit iz koo. but most of mainstream rapperz iz rappin bout bitches now a dayz n chet. WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO ALL THE HARDCORE RAP ? shit now its emberrasing to play mainstream shit ( in my point of view ). who the fuck is gone b bumpin shit thats deticated boutc a bitch. why would i wanna bump some shit talkin bout money.
YALL FEELZ ME ? maybe thats why we aint feelin east coast chet. we used 2 the bay shit. east coast shit cant compare 2 bay shit. like mac dre said " TO HARD FOE THE FUCKIN RADIO "
YALL FEELZ ME ? maybe thats why we aint feelin east coast chet. we used 2 the bay shit. east coast shit cant compare 2 bay shit. like mac dre said " TO HARD FOE THE FUCKIN RADIO "
1. Not a lot of creativity. Too much sampling of beatz and flows from old school artists. I mean in a major way.
2. East Coast catz tend to stick together and not do a lot of collaborations with anybody outside the East Coast.
3. Not giving any credit of using Bay lingo and slang in their tracks
4. They do more club banger tracks than real street life tracks.
5. A lot try to claim to be gangstas but only a few are. Using their rap group at a gang set and not a hood.
6. There is a a lot Tupac imitators in the East Coast and not giving any credit to Tupac.
7. They tend to not include West Coast artists when their concert tours perform at West Coast venues.
8. Radio friendly
i meen this in the nicest way possible, but fucc you and your wack ass opinions, i live in the northwest, but i love nas, i love mob deep, i love talib kweli, dreaded new york flow, wtf is that shit, they got a hella tight flow, yur deaf, and production, some my fave beats are on mob deep - infamous and nas - i am, would you rather listen to e 40, is that crackhead cartoon character flow better, and besides, where are your flows, where is your cd, where is yur tight production, you aint got no room to talk.
Yo, I mean this in da most obeyish way possible, but any opinion is always a good opinion. Boss playa raising up some good points,mayn. There is just few who like to analyze the lyrical style to their own homegrown beatz. If you going to bring up Nas, the man can't rap battle cuz the fool aka writah(can't freestyle) and he chickened out when Jay Z try to go into the rap battle ring with him. Unrehearsed. Well, I have to give you credit to have the ballz of braggin you a Mobb Deep fan in Tupac Nation. Wonder why Mobb Deep doesn't do regular shows in the West Coast? Talib Kweli is from Cinncinati,right? Last time I checked...isn't that MidWest. Midwest shows a lot of luv to the West Coast. Can't argue you on dat, boss playa.
