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Sep 18, 2003
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What does it take for one to be excommunicated from a message board that has it basis in underground rap, anti establishment, anti police, anti authority? A message board where one can come share his views with his peers and not be persecuted for ones beliefs or opinions. A sanctuary of somewhat where we are not censored, this is underground independent northern cali rap, is it not? Do you make an attempt to close my mouth because I do not share the same opinions as a few others?

How is it that you allow someone to say they will shoot someone, call them all kind snitches and bitches, to continue to post on this site while I get banned simply for sharing my views? Everyone that I addressed basically came at me after I shared my opinion with them, calling me a hater, telling me they were going to beat me up, calling me roosters LOL. Its ok for Rob to tell me he will whoop my ass and to "annie up" but when I make an attempt to defend my honor I am punished for it.

How it is that out of a community of 3000+ members, 5 members (out of that 3000) successfully whined and complained to get me banned? Is it because they know a certan person in power? What about the other 2995? DO they have a say so? Everywhere I posted had 3 times as many views as posts and none those 100-200 people that looked at the post came in and said I was talking shit.

Its injustice. Its censorship. Its funny how you will scream fuck the police but act like them over a few words.

Tre-8. I shared my view with him, he came back calling me all kinds of names and I responded. He then opened up a whole new post to call me out. All I was basically saying to the man was quit talkin about how your gonna do something to dude and go do it. But I'm wrong for that. I can get death threats but I'm wrong for the things I said?

Playarae. I didnt sayanything disrespectful to this man, I just stated everything that has already been said on this board. I didn't hear of anyone getting banned when someone called out puffy and lil jon and the eastside boys when they "stole bay area" slang and group names. IROCC ddn't get banned when he came into the posts an told patna that they did indeed steal an idea in which he posted the album cover. A-Wax threatened dude when he stole his title but I get banned for just stating facts. Go figure.

D-Locc. I was in the midst of discussion with tre and Mr. Locc camein and put his 2 cents into my conversation, which brings me to see what he is about. Since I know a lot about the area tha sixties is from and called him on it. Basically like if someone said I am banging Latin King real tuff and live in the bay area, would get booked on that one, common knowledge is thatthey are east coast based New York. that would raise suspicion I just simply wanted to have a discussion on why he is the only lone rollin 60 in his town, and he got defensive which led me to want to discuss that with him more, but alas, I was banned. migrated? just you?

Big Rob. I asked a question about the valley. Whats killa about the valley? its a nice agricultural area where california derives most of its economy from. nice farmland, livestock, very tasty fruit stands . so wen I asked what was killa about it, They bombarded me with threats, etc. Why can I not defend myself? I also asked why they were hatin on Droop but still using his name to sell their product. If he is so much of a has been, and washed up why would a successful indie rap company feel they need to use his name on album covers?

So I say to you, how far will we let them go? How many people should stay and who should go? Can there be a vote? How many people have to call me a hater before you duct tape my mouth? My posts are positive if I see something that warrants them to be positive, if I have a valid question for someone I will post it just like the 340 topics on "50 cent hotel got sprayed" or "who is the next to blow up" that come on the board daily.

in closing, i wonder what is the future of this post? Will my questions be addressed by anyone? or is this just another example of my "hating"? These are valid questions, that should be answered without any extra shit talkin that 5 people out of 2995 might be compelled to do.


"Pac' did'nt come back,but I did......." -ROASTAVELLI
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1) damn.

2) Sounds valid, but since I don't know the history here I can't really speak on it. I had a long post written about this, getting political and philosophical... but I erased that shit. Obviously its some funk goin on and I better let them hash it out first.

3) "very tasty fruit stands" ..... I dont care who you are, that shit is funny right there.
 
Apr 26, 2002
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FUCK THAT

@ROASTEM
FUCK THAT IM BEHIND YOU MAN YOU BROUGHT LIGHT BACK TOO BART AND THE SICCNESS SHITS BEEN DEAD FO A WHILE....IM WITH YOU ON COMING BACK AS ROASTEM FUCK THAT....IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH EVERONE KISSING EACH OTHERS ASS THEN DONT THATS YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT...AND YOU SHOULDNT GET BOOTED CUZ YOU DONT AGREE WITH NIGGAS ON THE BOARD..THIS AINT KISS THE NEXT MAN ASS FORUM..........KEEP PUTTING IT DOWN HOMIE UNDER WHAT EVER NAME YOU GOT LET YOUR MIND SPEAK.......NIGGAS WANT YOU TOO SUCK THERE DICK AND LIKE EVERTHING THEY DO ON HERE AND HALF THE SHIT BE TRASH


@ROASTEM I DONT KNOW WHAT PROBLEMS YOU HAD WITH
THE PEOPLE YOU NAMED THATS BETWEEN YALL....
BUT I FEEL YOU SHOULD COME BACK
 
Sep 18, 2003
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Pardon me Grumpz, I started nothing on the east co co board. My messages were based on the BART board and the 91siccness board. Please do a more thought out investigation before you speak on what you don't know.

Game warden, the problem is, there is no funk. I am just a bay area rap fan who voiced his opinion and some took it to a further level. I would have valued your response if you were to put it up there being that you took some time to type something other than "your a hater"

NickPro, I know what that means or I wouldnt have used it, did you go check on it and then come post and ask me. Like you are questioning my inteligence, now If I say something to ruffle your feathers, than I'm banned. I asked people to answer questions, not try to check my vocab
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Re: FUCK THAT

YOUNG 211 said:
@ROASTEM
FUCK THAT IM BEHIND YOU MAN YOU BROUGHT LIGHT BACK TOO BART AND THE SICCNESS SHITS BEEN DEAD FO A WHILE....IM WITH YOU ON COMING BACK AS ROASTEM FUCK THAT....IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH EVERONE KISSING EACH OTHERS ASS THEN DONT THATS YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT...AND YOU SHOULDNT GET BOOTED CUZ YOU DONT AGREE WITH NIGGAS ON THE BOARD..THIS AINT KISS THE NEXT MAN ASS FORUM..........KEEP PUTTING IT DOWN HOMIE UNDER WHAT EVER NAME YOU GOT LET YOUR MIND SPEAK.......NIGGAS WANT YOU TOO SUCK THERE DICK AND LIKE EVERTHING THEY DO ON HERE AND HALF THE SHIT BE TRASH
What he said. LOL@ roastavelli
 
Apr 26, 2002
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MY 2 CENTS

I JUST DONT THINK YOU SHOULD OF GOT THE BOOT POINT BLANK.

AND I ALSO FELL WHO EVER EMAILED NEMO TOO BAN YOU IS WEAK AZ FUCK...WE ALL GROWN ASS MEN OR WERE ALL AT LEAST MEN SO WHY WOULD YOU RUN TOO ANOTHER MAN TO HAVE SOMEONE KICKED OFF?
 

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i'm sorry if i hurt yall feelins for doin my job on here as a mod......

lol y'all cats on here are puttin way too much on it....... let me guess, next thing i'm finna see on here is 'why did u have all of deepeastoaklands aliases banned? he made me laugh!' :rolleyes:

anyways, i'm through talkin bout this dumb shit.....
 
Apr 25, 2002
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7DAYTHEORY said:
Playarae. I didnt sayanything disrespectful to this man, I just stated everything that has already been said on this board. I didn't hear of anyone getting banned when someone called out puffy and lil jon and the eastside boys when they "stole bay area" slang and group names.
I never had one issue with you playa...I even told you I dug ya honesty...can't have everyone diggin the music you feel me.

Originally posted by 7DAYTHEORY
IROCC ddn't get banned when he came into the posts an told patna that they did indeed steal an idea in which he posted the album cover. A-Wax threatened dude when he stole his title but I get banned for just stating facts. Go figure.
To clear this one up quick....IRocc and me have no issues & that goes for Wax too. What you speakin on had to do with Tact Out. Don't put my name anywhere near that drama.

I do think you are someone we all already know however, but hey whatever floats ya boat...I can dig it 100%, welcome back to the board!

*Other than that...you all good by me...I like reading ya shit even ya hilarious comments bout me :)

Playa Rae (The Un-Original)

Stay Up Pimp..
 
Sep 18, 2003
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Unoriginal, I put your name by it because you accused tactout of taking it from you when it was actually taken from A-Wax.

I do think you are someone we all already know however, but hey whatever floats ya boat...I can dig it 100%, welcome back to the board!
thats what you get for thinking. Any info I get or speak on is straight off this board. You should be carefl how much of your life you pt on here because know the patterns of you and whole bunch of others who put their business up on here. I have been around on this board since before there was a Dugout. I have been to many of these bay area sows, matter of fact I am on my way to the one in frisco tonight, so anything that I have spoken on regarding shows, etc is straight from my eyes.

2-11, said when some realness is spit the ones whos feelings get hurt are usually the ones who will be the first to get defensive, if your real about yours, there is no reason to come back with negativity, right dugout?

SGC, I am not deep east oakland. Don't put me in the category of an imbecile. Much appreciated.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Negativity? I have no negativity towards you...your perceiving it that way...remember, you came to me on your own. I put all out there and choose to do so, because that's how I get down. I never put out enough that I can't handle....kinda like how the higher up never gives more than he/she thinks we can take. As for Tact Out...well, that's a long time friend who I didn't accuse of anything but rather thought it was odd that it was similar to something I was "thinking" of doing concept wise that me and him had talked about together...so nothing was takin from Wax on my end. I am as real as it gets & as personal as it gets...be sure to check out a few of these DVD's when they drop and you will see how real I am when I speak about me and how I get down.

Don't mistakin this reply as "hurt" feelings cause if ya do, it's for the boosting of ya ego my brotha. I am simply replying to your comments. :) If you go to any of these shows...be sure to introduce yourself as ROASTEM...we can have a beer and you can tell me or others more about us and how you feel bout us...either way it don't offend me...like I said I like ya & your attitude. The game needs it...btw - My name is Ray & my picture is here: www.DugoutEnt.com

Nice to meet you...I don't conceal my identity...I am a performer/entertainer, it's my JOB to let all the world know bout me and who I am...so that is no mistake my business is out there...I am in the public light for a very REAL reason...promotion. Anyways...hit me sometime if you feel the need to know more I am real cool down to earth cat...have a safe night.

Respect,

Playa Rae.
 
Mar 9, 2003
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The vocabulary thing is ridiculous. Obviously cat is intelligent. Excommunicated and ostracized can be interchanged depending on context. Maybe he said excommunicated because it implies the attitude of the populace is "Holier than thou."

As far as this banning stuff goes:

There was a guy recently who was trying to slice up JT. Yall remember dude withthe elephant hanging. He was relentless. Now, he prolly had some good points, but he was so intense with the clownin that it made it appear that it COULD have been just a grudge/personal.

Point: initially, always try to shed more light than heat. It makes it almost impossible to ignore, but when the clownin gets to be the focus... I, for one, dont take it as seriously.

Now the things you are saying sound coherent enough. But sometimes you gotta live and let live.

A lot of people on here are trying to sell records (as a store, an artist, a producer, etc). So that means they are in hustle mode. When somebody is on the hustle, do you take what they say literally. The nicknames, the monikers, the drama...often is just to spark interest or be creative.

All that being said, doesn't seem to be much resistance to what you said in this post.

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Sep 18, 2003
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Dugout, re-read my post. I said if you don't have anything to get mad at then there is no reason for negativity, right? referring to you. I didnt say you were being negative towards Roastem. As far as all the rest of what you were saying, ok. You dont have to explain it to me, I'm sure you will have a chance to explan it to those who involved, I was just pointing out some key items that I have found interesting on this board. I have been at most of the shows that you have been at in the last couple of weeks, which is why I made the comment about them being weak, but I don't feel the need to introduce myself to anyone. I'm a fan of bay area rap but its not that serious to me.

Game, respect for coming with real talk. I don't conisider myself to be relentless, when feel that something should be spoke upon, then I will speak. Some may like it some may not. Waer under the bridge. But one thing I will not do is hold my tongue. Yes, this is a board to sell and promote music, I am here as a fan of some and a voice for others, some people should just hang up the mic.