What do you think of America?
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Agreed, and I think some people should be executed or castrated. And I think our economic system needs to change. Fuck capitalism. You can't even get close to an "equal society" with capitalism being our system...it is meant to create division, which doesn't go so well with democracy.
This country is a crock of shit. It needs an overhaul.
This country is a crock of shit. It needs an overhaul.
True, you are preaching to the choir. The MIL is a national model for segregation and income disparity and it also won my personal title as the most black-white polarized city in America for a project I worked on senior year that encompasses seven "status variables" together into one statistic.
But what I was saying is that it is that its better to be black in Milwaukee than it is to be black in Africa. That claim right there is a pretty conservative one, someone who disputes that has simply got their head up their ass.
Now that doesn't mean things here are OK, never be complacent, people here have a hell of a lot more control over what happens in Milwaukee than they do what happens in Africa.
But what I was saying is that it is that its better to be black in Milwaukee than it is to be black in Africa. That claim right there is a pretty conservative one, someone who disputes that has simply got their head up their ass.
Now that doesn't mean things here are OK, never be complacent, people here have a hell of a lot more control over what happens in Milwaukee than they do what happens in Africa.
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It is bad for white folks too b/c they are more likely to get jacked. I would love to get my hands on some solid black on white / white on black crime statistics and compare those to the indices of interaction (a statistical measure for how much different races mix in different cities). Obviously black-white polarization is 100x a bigger problem for black people but it's bad for white people too, it's bad for everybody. Picture a black guy coming up to me on the street and sticks a gun in my face and commands me to give him all my money, that scenerio is more likely in a highly polarized city. It's bad for everybody.
Yep like you said, I do care, but like pretty much the whole world, I don't really have any fucking clue what to do about it. What am I supposed to do, give a $50 tip to the two black dudes who installed my internet in my apartment yesterday? Should I volunteer to tutor at the Northside YMCA or walk up 35th Ave with boxes of food? In any rate, it's still a white hand feeding them, it doesn't change things.
Today I got pulled over by the police on Wisconsin Ave on my way to work for doing a 51 in a 30 (speed limits are ridiculously low in this city), the copper told me I was lucky they didn't stick the gun in my face b/c I was shuffling through the glove compartment to get my license/registration before he approached the vehicle. Now I was ticketed $134 bones, but that was most likely a racial moment anyways b/c if I was black, the guy probably wouldn't have given me the benefit of the doubt on reaching into the glove compartment.
I also was lucky enough to stand in line behind two elderly black dudes for almost half an hour at the US Bank on Saturday who were talking about how the neighborhood had changed over the past 50 years, how each of them came up here from the Dirty decades ago, etc etc etc good stuff. I still haven't lived here long enough to really know what's going on, but all of this is a start.
It is bad for white folks too b/c they are more likely to get jacked. I would love to get my hands on some solid black on white / white on black crime statistics and compare those to the indices of interaction (a statistical measure for how much different races mix in different cities). Obviously black-white polarization is 100x a bigger problem for black people but it's bad for white people too, it's bad for everybody. Picture a black guy coming up to me on the street and sticks a gun in my face and commands me to give him all my money, that scenerio is more likely in a highly polarized city. It's bad for everybody.
Yep like you said, I do care, but like pretty much the whole world, I don't really have any fucking clue what to do about it. What am I supposed to do, give a $50 tip to the two black dudes who installed my internet in my apartment yesterday? Should I volunteer to tutor at the Northside YMCA or walk up 35th Ave with boxes of food? In any rate, it's still a white hand feeding them, it doesn't change things.
Today I got pulled over by the police on Wisconsin Ave on my way to work for doing a 51 in a 30 (speed limits are ridiculously low in this city), the copper told me I was lucky they didn't stick the gun in my face b/c I was shuffling through the glove compartment to get my license/registration before he approached the vehicle. Now I was ticketed $134 bones, but that was most likely a racial moment anyways b/c if I was black, the guy probably wouldn't have given me the benefit of the doubt on reaching into the glove compartment.
I also was lucky enough to stand in line behind two elderly black dudes for almost half an hour at the US Bank on Saturday who were talking about how the neighborhood had changed over the past 50 years, how each of them came up here from the Dirty decades ago, etc etc etc good stuff. I still haven't lived here long enough to really know what's going on, but all of this is a start.
^^^Youre one of the most honest and real whites I have ever encountered.Most act like racism is a thing of the past or that we are ''holding ourselves back by having a victim mentality'' while they try to continue to keep us repressed through rampant discrimination.
But the '' youre better off here'' comments do nothing,and I personally hate hearing them.Its like if a child was being molested and starved at her moms house and molested,starved AND beaten at her pops house and her mom saying some shit like ''well at least youre not at dads house''.What is the kid supposed to say '''wooo hooo'' and throw a party?
Most of the non violent crime in milwaukee cant even truely be classified as crime, its survival.When bills have to be paid and food has to be put on the table, you have to make something happen.The true criminals are the evil,greedy ass whites who discriminate against someone trying to do the right thing and feed themselves and thier families.
But the '' youre better off here'' comments do nothing,and I personally hate hearing them.Its like if a child was being molested and starved at her moms house and molested,starved AND beaten at her pops house and her mom saying some shit like ''well at least youre not at dads house''.What is the kid supposed to say '''wooo hooo'' and throw a party?
Most of the non violent crime in milwaukee cant even truely be classified as crime, its survival.When bills have to be paid and food has to be put on the table, you have to make something happen.The true criminals are the evil,greedy ass whites who discriminate against someone trying to do the right thing and feed themselves and thier families.
You're right, and while I don't agree think the oppression ratio between the US and Africa is nearly as equal as the scenerio you just posed, that's a very good analogy and African Americans live in America not Africa (and have for longer on average than white Americans).
Yeah I feel that, but where this priviliged white kid's understanding of that trails off is when it comes to killing.
As a little side project for my 7-8 months here, I am going to map every homicide in the city. Every murder the Journal Sentinel reports, I'm going to put it into a Google Earth file and then look at it after 7-8 months. I was at a bar on the East Side tonight and somebody told me there was recently a murder downtown for the first time in like a decade, which was absolutely shocking to me b/c Milwaukee has a high murder rate, and downtown is a big densely trafficked place. Milwaukee has 3-4x the murder rate of Seattle, and there are murders in downtown Seattle all the time.
So given that issues of poverty/violence concentration are about as bad in this city as anywhere in America, I am going to map anything the MJS reports to display it graphically at the end. Of course all kinds of stuff goes down that the MJS misses and the media has its biases, but I am assuming that when somebody loses their life, they report it almost all the time. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah I feel that, but where this priviliged white kid's understanding of that trails off is when it comes to killing.
As a little side project for my 7-8 months here, I am going to map every homicide in the city. Every murder the Journal Sentinel reports, I'm going to put it into a Google Earth file and then look at it after 7-8 months. I was at a bar on the East Side tonight and somebody told me there was recently a murder downtown for the first time in like a decade, which was absolutely shocking to me b/c Milwaukee has a high murder rate, and downtown is a big densely trafficked place. Milwaukee has 3-4x the murder rate of Seattle, and there are murders in downtown Seattle all the time.
So given that issues of poverty/violence concentration are about as bad in this city as anywhere in America, I am going to map anything the MJS reports to display it graphically at the end. Of course all kinds of stuff goes down that the MJS misses and the media has its biases, but I am assuming that when somebody loses their life, they report it almost all the time. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
I can't believe the Bush administration has been fucking up shit for so long and no one has done anything about it... its like corruption is right there staring dead in your face, and people just look the other way... Clinton gets his dick sucked and people yell impeachment... George Bush is sacrificing other peoples lives for oil and severely runs the U.S. image and credibility more and more into the ground everyday, causing more and more hatred towards us, and it seems like nothing is being done to stop him... i don't understand it... but then again i'm not outside on the white house lawn protesting either....
other than that i love this place... just hate the ones who are currently running it...
my quick 2 cents...
other than that i love this place... just hate the ones who are currently running it...
my quick 2 cents...
almost all of the homicides happen in the 80-nearly 100% black neighborhoods like park west,metcalfe park and washington park or the mostly latino near south side, walker's point.
As far as the comparison to Africa, given that America locks up more people per capita than any country,and this city has the highest black male imprisonment rate in America,how can you say the oppression is so much better?At any given time over 11% of black men from Milwaukee are behind bars,not including those out on paper.
I mean the starvation rate is nowhere near as high as ethiopia or some shit, but the joblessness,murder and imprisonment rates here(for blacks) are on par with some African countries.Of coarse places like darfur cant be compared to america.
As far as the comparison to Africa, given that America locks up more people per capita than any country,and this city has the highest black male imprisonment rate in America,how can you say the oppression is so much better?At any given time over 11% of black men from Milwaukee are behind bars,not including those out on paper.
I mean the starvation rate is nowhere near as high as ethiopia or some shit, but the joblessness,murder and imprisonment rates here(for blacks) are on par with some African countries.Of coarse places like darfur cant be compared to america.
GermanLugers23 said:
I live straight at the border so amsterdam is like 120km away - that`s why i said amsterdam and damn now that we grow to be one europe it`s all evident anyway 
I just thought when dudes come by they shoulda chill in Amsterdam cuz it`s the best city in the world
Soon I`m gonna live in NL , too. I really can`t wait 4 it. Much love 2 NL ! ! !
I just thought when dudes come by they shoulda chill in Amsterdam cuz it`s the best city in the world
Soon I`m gonna live in NL , too. I really can`t wait 4 it. Much love 2 NL ! ! !
haha thats great man! I think Amsterdam is more of an amusement park like WB movieworld hahaha Rotterdam is better man! What are you going to do in NL? I would like to move out man, Germany perhaps haha
Aber viel spasz im Holland!
damn for real ? That`s a trip Yeah , that`s why i love Amsterdamn . Don`t get me wrong but Germany sucks dog , see you can`t trust here nobody. Snitchin` is like a German Hobby
what i would like to say - It`s really cold out here and i don`t mean the weather.... Where you wanna live ? Best city in Germany by far is Frankfurt am Main. There`s a lot of criminal stuff goin on but also a lotta nice places and the people there are way better than everwhere else ... Just my oppinion....I love the south of Germany man. I've been there a lot last year. I also had to go through Frankfurt every time.
I used to have a German girlfriend who lived in a really small village an hour away from Frankfurt. And I live in Rotterdam, you know how far that is.
Although a lot of people I met didn't speak English very well.. that kind of sucked tho,
But unlike most Dutch peole I like Germany I think it's too bad what is going to happen with the Autobahn tho I loved to race over that.
I used to have a German girlfriend who lived in a really small village an hour away from Frankfurt. And I live in Rotterdam, you know how far that is.
Although a lot of people I met didn't speak English very well.. that kind of sucked tho,
But unlike most Dutch peole I like Germany I think it's too bad what is going to happen with the Autobahn tho I loved to race over that.
One thing don't understand and probably won't ever is how white people are responsibile fully or even partially for the black on black violence and the destruction of the black family unit (teenagers having kids, black kids growing up w/out dads). Criminalization yes, segregation yes, racial profiling yes, even limiting educational opportunities sure, I can understand why whites are mostly if not fully to blame, but there's no white man making somebody pull a trigger or put his unprotected dick inside somebody.
Black on black violence and the breakup of the black family, if you could offer some insight into those I'm curious to see what you have to say.
Black on black violence and the breakup of the black family, if you could offer some insight into those I'm curious to see what you have to say.
whites have created an economic situation (especially here in Milwaukee) which blocks black men out for the most part, therefore making it pretttyy damn hard to legally feed himself let alone his family.This causes dysfucntional families because men cant put food on the table.This leads to crime,which leads to prison time,fathers away from families,etc.
I guess we should just stop having kids and gradually cease to exist,thats what it seems america wants anyway.