We Need To Talk About Kevin

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Yeah I was gonna say, n9newunsixx posted about this in the "All it takes is a good trailer" thread. Looks really good. The trailer that he posted had crossed my mind a few times this week, sort of out of the blue, so it's weird you posted this right now. But thanks cause I was too lazy to dig it up.
 
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if the search feature didn't suck so bad I would have bumped this weeks ago. anyways, definitely one of the better films of 2011.

although my one problem with this film is that they suggest evil kids are simply born evil rather than it is their environment and our dysfunctional society that creates kids to shoot up schools. you can be born with all the genetic traits of a serial killer and be a sociopath and live a normal life, however if u have those same traits and are abused as a child or have a fucked up life that will increase the chances of doing some evil shit. people aren't born evil.
 
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yeah but the thing with evil kid movies is kids are born evil. you ever seen good son with maculay culkin and elijah wood where maculay pretends to be good kid but he does fucked up things all the time because he wants to? kevin was a lot like maculays character
yeah but those are horror movies or suspense films. this movie was more of an attempt to show the perspective of a mother of a kid who shoots up a school, and this just isn't reality. it makes the viewer think the kid is simply evil and that's it, nothing more nothing less and that's a bit irresponsible to neglect so many other factors.

its a very good movie though its just I don't really like the message the film sends, especially considering this is a serious film taking on a serious and sensitive topic...its not some typical evil kid film we've seen in the past which are strictly for entertainment.
 

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if the search feature didn't suck so bad I would have bumped this weeks ago. anyways, definitely one of the better films of 2011.

although my one problem with this film is that they suggest evil kids are simply born evil rather than it is their environment and our dysfunctional society that creates kids to shoot up schools. you can be born with all the genetic traits of a serial killer and be a sociopath and live a normal life, however if u have those same traits and are abused as a child or have a fucked up life that will increase the chances of doing some evil shit. people aren't born evil.
I don't think that's what the movie suggested at all. Kevin's mother had no idea/understanding of how to deal with him, so her nurturing became fucked up, which helped lead him down the path he went. I mean, she broke his arm when he was around 4 or 5 years old, they were clearly showing that nurture was a part of it.As a small child, Kevin wasn't evil, just seemed to lean heavily in one direction on the autism scale.

I think what the film makers wanted, is for the audience to debate just how much influence his mother had on him. If she could have done something different, that would have changed things. Something to that effect.
 

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I don't think that's what the movie suggested at all. Kevin's mother had no idea/understanding of how to deal with him, so her nurturing became fucked up, which helped lead him down the path he went. I mean, she broke his arm when he was around 4 or 5 years old, they were clearly showing that nurture was a part of it.As a small child, Kevin wasn't evil, just seemed to lean heavily in one direction on the autism scale.

I think what the film makers wanted, is for the audience to debate just how much influence his mother had on him. If she could have done something different, that would have changed things. Something to that effect.
there aint no way the mother's nurturing was off, that kid was just a strait up asshole. piece of shit.
 

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although my one problem with this film is that they suggest evil kids are simply born evil rather than it is their environment and our dysfunctional society that creates kids to shoot up schools. you can be born with all the genetic traits of a serial killer and be a sociopath and live a normal life, however if u have those same traits and are abused as a child or have a fucked up life that will increase the chances of doing some evil shit. people aren't born evil.
I still need to watch this movie but 2-0-Sixx is right in my opinion. The sociopaths who have a good upbringing and/or come from wealth where they get everything they want usually end up being the CEO of Fortune 500 companies and shit like that.
 
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that's exactly right. funny, I just watched some program the other day called something like, Being Evil, or What is Evil, some shit like that, anyways they had this expert neurologist saying the majority of sociopaths he's encountered we're in business - wall street and the likes. then he did tests on himself and not only did he find out he himself was a sociopath he also had rare genetic genes that are found in many ruthless killers and serial killers, only difference between he and they is he had a good childhood.
 

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there aint no way the mother's nurturing was off, that kid was just a strait up asshole. piece of shit.
did y'all watch the same movie I did? she couldn't handle kevin when he was just a baby and things only got worse from there. taking him in the stroller and standing next to a loud ass jackhammer for who knows how long, yeah, great nurturing there. as for kevin being evil as a child, have any of you ever dealt with a kid that weighs in heavily on the autism scale?
 
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the movie made it out that even as a baby he hated the mother. she tried everything to try and make him love her but nothing would work. he also got along fine with the father perfectly normal.

and her moments of frustration were nothing extreme, certainly not when we're talking about kids who grow to become killers. the movie focused on the hell she went through, the misery of raising this disturbed child that tortured her for life.
 
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Is that what the movie is about?! Shit I read a review and it never mentioned about the couples childs action jus the past as they deal with it together, it made the movie sound slow and boring so I past. Thanks for the post, input and opinions, now Imma try and check it out while its still in theatres.