WAR WITH IRAN IS NEAR: A FEW SIGNS!

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1. The obvious ,ramped up rhetoric by G Dub.

2. Public permmision to engage Iranian militants in Iraq.
(breaking the proxy war , and engaging into combat)

3. The U.S will test a 700 TON (not a typo) Bunker busting bomb soon. I bet you it's not for collapsing caves in Afganistan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/30/AR2006033001735_pf.html

4. Additional ships, subs and an Aircraft Carrier sent as a "Message to Iran"....(I don't think it's a bluff...and it's definitely not for the "insurgents")
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff

5. Information leaked about Israels plans to bomb Iran:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article426433.ece

6. Most recently...the Kidnapped Iranian diplomat.
(as small as this event may seem...it could be the straw that breaks the camels back)

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/07/51860.aspx


The shit's about to hit the fan. I only posted this because a lot of people think that a war with Iran will not happen. I think these signs say it will. What yall think? Especially the one about the diplomat. Keep your eye on that one.
 
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A huge mushroom cloud of dust is expected to rise over Nevada's desert in June when the Pentagon plans to detonate a gigantic 700-ton explosive -- the biggest open-air chemical blast ever at the Nevada Test Site -- as part of the research into developing weapons that can destroy deeply buried military targets, officials said yesterday.
Testing bombs in your own country... damn...
 
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thizzinfested said:
ya shits definitely about happen...do you have the number of military he was going to increase that he was talking about in the state ouf the union
he said 20,000 . I do believe those are for Iraq. I don't see ground troops going in. Maybe along the border regions on land and sea. This will mostly be a Missle Toss.
 
Aug 28, 2006
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looks too me like another ARMS RACE but Nuclear

New Nuclear Arms Complex Proposed For Vegas Area
LAS VEGAS -- The U.S. nuclear weapons agency outlined plans Tuesday to consolidate operations and build a plant to produce nuclear arms components called plutonium pits by 2022.

The plan by the National Nuclear Security Administration, called "Complex 2030," calls for the construction of a plutonium pit plant in one of five locations, including the Nevada Test Site, about 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas, said Ted Wyka, document manager for the plan's environmental impact study.

Such pits, which serve as the trigger of a nuclear weapon, have been produced in low quantities at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico since the Rocky Flats facility near Denver, was shut down by the FBI in 1989 for alleged environmental crimes.Los Alamos lab was designed for interim production, and a new, higher capacity plant producing 125 pits per year is needed to help rejuvenate an aging stockpile that contains nuclear weapons averaging more than 20 years old, Wyka said at a public hearing in Las Vegas.

"We haven't replaced any weapon in over a decade," Wyka said. "Components will continue to age and wear out, and we must be able to continue to fix those problems."

Other sites being considered for the pit plant include the Savannah River Site in South Carolina, the Y-12 National Security Complex in Tennessee, the Pantex Plant in Texas and Los Alamos.

The plan to overhaul the U.S. nuclear complex also includes moving flight-testing from the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada to the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico or to the Nevada Test Site.

Overall, the plan aims to consolidate operations from eight nuclear weapons sites around the country by cutting redundancies and making security more efficient.

Since December 2004, the agency has begun moving a ton of high-security nuclear material from Los Alamos to the Nevada Test Site, which is considered better protected. The move will be complete by September 2007.

Peggy Maze Johnson, executive director Citizen Alert, a Nevada group that is opposed to the planned Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump, said her group favors reducing plutonium pit production rather than expanding it.

"How many nuclear bombs do we need?" she said. "My biggest concern is that they really don't want our input and that they're going to go ahead and do what they want to do."

The United States has committed to reducing its nuclear arsenal to some 1,700 to 2,200 operational, deployed nuclear weapons by 2012, about half the level of 2001.

The agency is holding 90 days of public hearings on its plan until Jan. 17 in South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico and California. It expects to draft an environmental impact statement by the summer, hold more hearings and make a decision in late 2008.
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/10417859/detail.html
 
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iaoish said:
Testing bombs in your own country... damn...

Governor Urged To Request Public Hearings On Explosion

POSTED: 7:03 pm PST February 3, 2007
UPDATED: 7:07 pm PST February 3, 2007
RENO, Nev. -- A group of Nevada activists is pressing Gov. Jim Gibbons to request an environmental impact statement and public hearings on the federal government's plans for a 700-ton explosion n the Nevada desert.

More than two dozen activists marched a mile Saturday in Carson City from the Legislative Building to the Governor's Mansion, where hey held a news conference to express concerns over the planned on-nuclear blast at the Nevada Test Site.

The event was sponsored by No New Mushroom Clouds Over Nevada, r Anywhere!, a coalition of such groups as the Reno Anti-War coalition, the Sierra Interfaith Action for Peace and the Western Shoshone Defense Project.
"We don't think it's right that our new governor has been silent on the issue," said Lee Dazey, an event organizer. "We sent a letter to him January 22 and we haven't heard anything from him.

"We think he has a responsibility to clarify what his stance is given what his predecessor requested," Dazey added.

Before leaving office last month, former Gov. Kenny Guinn asked for a supplemental EIS that would require public hearings on the test. Both Gibbons and Guinn are Republicans.

While Gibbons supported the explosion as a congressman, he has not yet taken a stand on whether a full EIS and public hearings are needed, said Brent Boynton, his communications director.

The federal government must secure an air quality permit from the state before it can proceed with the blast, he added.

"He's waiting for more information from the federal government," Boynton said. "He's going to certainly work through state agencies to protect the health and safety of Nevadans and the environment."

The "Divine Strake" explosion, first scheduled for June 2006, was postponed indefinitely after Western Shoshone tribe members filed suit.

Critics fear radioactive material from decades of Cold War-era weapons tests will be loosened by the blast and scattered across Nevada and southern Utah. They call it a step toward developing "bunker buster" nuclear weapons.

Activists said they're puzzled that members of Nevada's congressional delegation have recently been silent on the issue, while top elected officials in Utah and Idaho have pressed for public hearings.

Since releasing a revised environmental assessment on the explosion in December, the government has held public "open houses" in Las Vegas, Salt Lake City and Saint George, Utah.

The EA claims that the level of radiation released would be below federal safety standards and the blast presents no public health hazards.

No date has been set for detonation of the 700-ton ammonium nitrate and fuel oil bomb that would generate the first mushroom-shaped dust cloud in decades at the test site, 85 miles northwest of Las Vegas.

Dazey said a full EIS would provide more details about the explosion and ensure public hearings. The recent public meetings provided information but did not allow for public comment on the test, she said.http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/10922877/detail.html
 
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After I took a closer look at it:

The test, code-named "Divine Strake," will occur on June 2 about 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas in a high desert valley bounded by mountains, according to Pentagon and Energy Department officials.
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 31, 2006; A09

Have you seen it?
 
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Doberman said:
3. The U.S will test a 700 TON (not a typo) Bunker busting bomb soon. I bet you it's not for collapsing caves in Afganistan.
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=184342&highlight=divine


ships, subs and an Aircraft Carrier sent as a "Message to Iran"....(I don't think it's a bluff...and it's definitely not for the "insurgents")
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=222194&highlight=iran


rmation leaked about Israels plans to bomb Iran:
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=224410


What yall think?
:rolleyes:
 
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Aye...my bad for posting an old article. Here's today's story I read.
WP: Proposed bomb test stirs opposition
Blast won’t be nuclear, but many fear radioactive dust
By Sonya Geis
The Washington Post
Updated: 5:39 a.m. PT Feb 7, 2007

ST. GEORGE, Utah - When the baby boomers of St. George were children, radioactive ash from nuclear test explosions in Nevada regularly drifted toward the red bluffs of their town and fell like snow. They played in it and wrote their names in it on car windows.
The federal government reassured the townspeople they were in no danger as it detonated 952 bombs in Nevada over four decades. But thousands of people who lived downwind of the test site got radiation-related cancer, and the town of 50,000 has its own cancer-treatment center today.
So when word got out recently that the government wants to test a huge conventional bomb in Nevada, sending a mushroom cloud thousands of feet in the air, people in St. George felt an unwelcome blast from the past.
At a series of emotional meetings last month in Las Vegas, St. George, Salt Lake City and the Idaho capital of Boise, people who live downwind of the Nevada Test Site expressed fear that if the government goes ahead with its code-named Divine Strake test, radioactive dust from previous tests will blow their way.
"People here have been exposed to radiation already. We don't need any little extra push," St. George native Michelle Thomas said in her home last week.
Thomas, 54, has had cancer twice, in the breast and in a salivary gland, and had a pre-malignant ovary removed. She suffers from polymyositis, a muscle-degenerating autoimmune disease. Ever since she became too sick to work as a teacher, she has spent her time on anti-nuclear activism.
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me," she said.
‘Bunker buster’
The Pentagon plans to test a 700-ton ammonium-nitrate-and-fuel-oil "bunker buster" weapon on the Nevada Test Site, a 1,375-square-mile chunk of desert. Divine Strake will demonstrate the impact on deeply buried tunnels should a U.S. complex be attacked, or should the United States attack a bunker in another country. No date for the test has been set.
The Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) planned to conduct Divine Strake last June, but a Reno lawyer got an injunction to stop it. Robert Hager filed suit in April in federal court on behalf of the Western Shoshone tribe and people living downwind of the test site. A status hearing on the suit is scheduled for March 2.
Prompted by the lawsuit and outcry by lawmakers in Nevada, Utah and Idaho, the DTRA held a series of meetings and released a new environmental assessment.
Its studies predict a mushroom cloud will rise about 4,500 feet above the desert and then settle back in place. The amount of radiation that might be released at the boundaries of the test site will be equivalent to the amount released by a smoke detector, authorities said.
"The Nevada Test Site is one of the best-studied areas in terms of meteorology," said Darwin Morgan, a spokesman for the Nevada Site Office. "We know the volume of dust picked up from the explosion. We took the weather for the worst time period: January, with the highest winds. When you model to that, it stays on the test site.
"Now, will every single microscopic atom stay on the test site?" he continued. "No, you can't do that. But the bulk of the dust will remain on the test site."
Defense officials have looked at moving the test to another site, but they say the alternatives would cost $100 million and take three years of planning. Holding it in Nevada could be done this year for $5 million.
‘Scared to death’
"My personal feeling is, rather than have people completely discombobulated, like they're doing, it would be better to have it somewhere else," Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) said. "If it costs $100 million more, that's better than having people scared to death and worrying they're going to suffer the same afflictions their families did."
Besides citing health concerns, Hager's lawsuit also charges the test would be held improperly on tribal land, and that the government is really seeking to test the effects of a nuclear bomb.
James Tegnelia, director of the DTRA, has acknowledged there is now no way to transport a single conventional bomb of the type Divine Strake will test. Also, budget documents from 2005 and 2006 say Divine Strake will simulate a "low yield nuclear weapon ground shock environment." But the agency has since disavowed the word "nuclear," and DTRA officials said they have no plans to test nuclear weapons in the future.
Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah), whose district includes St. George, is not convinced.
"There's no such thing as a 700-ton conventional weapon," Matheson said in an interview. "Make no mistake about it, there's an effort to move into creating new nuclear weapons."
Matheson's family suffered personally from fallout, and he is just as skeptical as some of his constituents about Defense Department assurances. Matheson's father, former Utah governor Scott Matheson, died of multiple myeloma, a rare cancer that can be linked to radiation exposure.
Like others in southern Nevada, he speaks bitterly of declassified documents that show the government did not detonate nuclear bombs when the wind blew toward Las Vegas. They waited until the wind blew toward St. George.
"The people in Utah have long memories," Matheson said. "They've been lied to before. The people in Utah are so patriotic, they're among the most supportive of the government in the nation, and the government has taken advantage of that. So I'm always skeptical when someone tells me not to worry about the testing of weapons."
© 2007 The Washington Post Company
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17016282/
 
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My opinion? If you can't start a war with Iran(U.S. can't), just make Iran start a war with you.

For more info:

See the Isreal post. See the post about financial war on Iran.

Iran is smarter than the imperialist lion, they'll "win" this.
 
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iaoish said:
Testing bombs in your own country... damn...
Where else should we test them? I live in Nevada and their aint shit here except for Reno and Vegas, its the perfect state to test weapons. Im down to just test the thing on iran, but that wouldnt be "politically correct/polite".
 
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Maybe it wont be a WW3 but a Cold War 2

cuz if the US attacks Iran. China and Russia r gonna come into play...seems like history is repeating itself

watch out for the commies