WA State will have strictest smoking restrictions in nation

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First liquor...NOW smoking....LOL...i hate this state sometimes...




Soon, smokers will be asking for more than a light.

They're also going to need a tape measure.

A proposal to ban smoking inside public places and workplaces sailed to victory last night as expected despite a controversial rule that forbids lighting up within 25 feet of doors, windows and vents. Passers-by are exempted.

The win for Initiative 901 gives Washington the nation's strictest statewide smoking ban, barring smoking in places such as bars, restaurants, clubs, bowling alleys and non-tribal casinos. The measure takes effect in 30 days.

"We are proud, happy and delighted," said Michael Sullivan, spokesman for the American Cancer Society, a sponsor of the measure. "People ... stood up and said we believe this is the right thing to do. We know the health impact of secondhand smoke and we're proud to stand along (with) others who are trying to protect their community."

Dave Wilkinson, a security worker at a Renton bowling alley who led the minimal opposition to the initiative, said he wasn't surprised by the outcome.

"It kind of comes back to the fact that we just didn't have the money to get out and inform the voters," Wilkinson said.

A loud cheer rose from the crowd when the first election results came in at Kells Irish Restaurant & Pub in Seattle, where supporters of the measure celebrated a substantial early lead that held throughout the night.

Meanwhile, just outside the door, Anne Smith, 29, and her stepsister, Mary Swanson, 26, were puffing hungrily.



Nevertheless, they said they support the ban. "I do think it should pass -- as a smoker," said Swanson. "I smoked 10 years, I quit, and when I started again, it was in a bar."

She admitted, however, to a hankering for what will soon be the good old days. "I'd like there to be two or three underground places where I could still smoke."

"It's called your house or your car," interjected Smith, who had no idea she'd walked into the pro-law rally, as she put it.

"Maybe I'll quit with the law," Smith added. "That'd be a good thing."

Unlike Washington's measure, most other statewide bans exempt some businesses, such as bars, private clubs, card rooms and cigar lounges. And no state has a deeper no-smoking buffer than Washington's proposed 25-foot rule. (Some cities do.)

Under the ban, Washington businesses can seek waivers from the 25-foot buffer if they can show that smoke wouldn't infiltrate the business.

The ban will not apply to tribal lands, including casinos.

The measure authorizes local health departments to enforce the ban on businesses with fines or license restrictions.

Roger Valdez, manager of the Tobacco Prevention Program for Public Health -- Seattle & King County, said officials are more interested in clearing the air than handing out fines.

"Our plans are really education, education, education and then enforcement," Valdez said.

Local law enforcement agencies will be responsible for enforcing the initiative against individuals, with violators subject to a $100 fine.

The proposal was largely sponsored by health care interests. The American Cancer Society contributed $521,000 of the campaign's $1.38 million.

Wilkinson and his allies raised a little more than $12,000, largely from bars and non-tribal casinos

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/247635_smoking09.html
 
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Sick Wid It said:
Fuck cigarettes. Go smoke that nasty shit in your house or car like dude said.
Wow....well dont NOT smoke in the bars....you dont like it...tough cookies...dont GO to the bay/crappy casino/smoking section of a resturant....no ones forcin you....

And Frisco got the 25 foot rule???It says right in the headlines WA State will have strictest smoking restrictions in nation"...so it cant be the same....
 
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that causes a lotta fights outside bars and bowling alleys. Im tryin to quit anyway so i dont give a shit, but DAMN quitting is hard
 

Cheaptimes

C'mon now...
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Wow....well dont NOT smoke in the bars....you dont like it...tough cookies...dont GO to the bay/crappy casino/smoking section of a resturant....no ones forcin you....

And Frisco got the 25 foot rule???It says right in the headlines WA State will have strictest smoking restrictions in nation"...so it cant be the same....
Do you really believe everything you read in the paper?
its 20 or 25 feet, and like dude said above, we havnt been able to smoke anywhere for the last 10 years.

not the end of the world, just dont stand in any doorways :siccness:

If you really want to argue about it, ok. Washington sucks period. theyre fuckin with your booze, your strippers and now your smokes.
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
And Frisco got the 25 foot rule???It says right in the headlines WA State will have strictest smoking restrictions in nation"...so it cant be the same....
Other than the 25 foot rule, it's the same.

No one is gonna follow that law anyway. I doubt cops are gonna be walking up to you seeing if you're 25 feet away from your workplace.
 
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gimpypimp said:
Other than the 25 foot rule, it's the same.

No one is gonna follow that law anyway. I doubt cops are gonna be walking up to you seeing if you're 25 feet away from your workplace.
Exactly...by the time ive smoked my cig...il be long gone...and like the cops dont have anything better to do than to fine smokers...they could honestly give 2 shits...
 
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Cheaptimes said:
If you really want to argue about it, ok. Washington sucks period. theyre fuckin with your booze, your strippers and now your smokes.
I forgot about the stripers...my homegirl is the manager at the one they are fuckin with right now...and she got a petetion that needs 14,000 signatures from registered voters that live INSIDE the Seattle city limits....to get the ban lifted...the "4 foot rule"....
 
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I will never EVER understand how people start smoking. Ever since I was a kid I knew 1) smoking can make you sick/kill you, 2) cigarettes smell like shit, and 3) the people who smoke them smell like shit. Not to mention the cost...
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
you dont like it...tough cookies...dont GO to the bay/crappy casino/smoking section of a resturant....no ones forcin you....
I don't smoke cigarettes so it ain't tough cookies for me. That shit is a disgusting habit so like I said, fuck cigarettes.

Go get yourself some nicorette.