In refrence to this IMUS being fired situation i just wanna know how this guy gets fired for saying nappy headed hoes and shit like this, But these rappers and shit degrade wemon on a constant basis in their music videos, on their songs, on the radio, How then is it any different from IMUS? Shouldnt these people ge dropped from their labels and canned, then bashed on national tv for it? Whats the deal with this DOUBLE STANDARD that makes it okay for some people to get away with it and not others? Is race an excuse for this type of shit? (ie because you're non-white you can get away with such slanderings)
Using race as an excuse...
- Thread starter Cmoke
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race is and always will be an issue in situations like this.
It will never be ok for white people to refer to black women as Nappy headed hoes. I look at it like a huge double standard in America. I think Imus should not have been fired but hey we move on. Someone else, some other day will say something euqally or more stupid in their life.
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It will never be ok for white people to refer to black women as Nappy headed hoes. I look at it like a huge double standard in America. I think Imus should not have been fired but hey we move on. Someone else, some other day will say something euqally or more stupid in their life.
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Imus was representing CBS when he was on the air, and if they don't like what he says, they can fire his ass.
Rappers are on labels, but the entire idea of rap nowadays is bitches, hoes, bling, cars, and drugs. Most labels have no problem with that because it sells...
But as a CBS radio host, you can't say shit like that because it doesn't represent the company you are working for...he's CBS's on air representative, so if he says some shit that doesn't jive with their ideals, they can give him the boot. He can't just pop off at the mouth and say anything he wants...well, not working for CBS at least.
Rappers are on labels, but the entire idea of rap nowadays is bitches, hoes, bling, cars, and drugs. Most labels have no problem with that because it sells...
But as a CBS radio host, you can't say shit like that because it doesn't represent the company you are working for...he's CBS's on air representative, so if he says some shit that doesn't jive with their ideals, they can give him the boot. He can't just pop off at the mouth and say anything he wants...well, not working for CBS at least.
I believe in free speech and free enterprise, meaning that IMUS has a right to say what he wants and CBS has a right to fire his ass just as Interscope has a right to fire 50 Cent.. Maybe you should take your issues up with Interscope and stop directing your comments at one particular 'race' or social entity as this is a multi-faceted issue not to be reduced to that of a "Black Man's burden"...
Now my question is how is this a double standard? These are two different forms of media, with two completely different objectives and two completely different demographics. So with that being said, can we really call it a double standard?
Now teh thing is, nappy headed hoes do exist, just like cavemen looking bitches who smell like wet mutts exist. The problem you are failing to realize is that Imus was talking about a specific group of people, while rappers usually use those terms in a general sense. Do I believe Imus should have been fired? Hell no. Do I believe he should have said what he said? Well, why would you say that shit knowing Kramer just took a beating for saying what he said?
The best thing to do would have been to have him donate to all types of organizations and shit. However, he is involved with CORPORATE america, and the rules are different. The sponsers felt he was a LIABILITY and not a commodity/asset so he got the boot.
Now teh thing is, nappy headed hoes do exist, just like cavemen looking bitches who smell like wet mutts exist. The problem you are failing to realize is that Imus was talking about a specific group of people, while rappers usually use those terms in a general sense. Do I believe Imus should have been fired? Hell no. Do I believe he should have said what he said? Well, why would you say that shit knowing Kramer just took a beating for saying what he said?
The best thing to do would have been to have him donate to all types of organizations and shit. However, he is involved with CORPORATE america, and the rules are different. The sponsers felt he was a LIABILITY and not a commodity/asset so he got the boot.
It is a double standard because when a white man says such things that are deemed racist, it becomes a huge issue, media frenzy, lynch mob type of situation. While when similiar things are said by non white men no such national issue is made.
So you argue that these are two different forms of media with different objectives/demographics, but did we not experiece a similiar reaction when eminems allegedely racist comments surfaced? That pretty much ends the debate that the different reactions were a result of different forms of media because we witnessed a similiar Imus reaction in the rap world regarding eminem with the only common link that both men were white.
On another note, Imus did not mention race once in his comments. He said nappy headed hoes. White women, asian women, any woman can have nappy hair and/or be hoes as well. What Imus said was categorically not racist.
Cmoke - your momma uses race as an excuse...
to claim why she "prefers" black men.
And fuck all that, "this is the GOM Forum - we should be constructively talking about issues not leveling slander and name calling at each other."
Real talk, motherfuckers like you and Colombo run around here (in the absence of your leader J-Boeg) like the white power brigade and claim any situation is reverse-racism or a double standard. Yet, you lack the objective clarity to even fathom the other side of the argument. You're white, you feel wronged, and thats as far as it goes for you.
There are plenty people of color, in this thread here, that can objectively assess the situation and see how while it is a matter of freedom of speech, it is also a matter of making a racist joke while working for a huge corporation. They can see most sides of the argument, why can't you?
You created this thread with no other purpose but to put your rant out there. Why can I make this assumption? Because your history of posts on here and the tonation of your opening post suggests nothing else. You don't seek to have a better understanding of the situation, you seek to label it and place blame.
to claim why she "prefers" black men.
And fuck all that, "this is the GOM Forum - we should be constructively talking about issues not leveling slander and name calling at each other."
Real talk, motherfuckers like you and Colombo run around here (in the absence of your leader J-Boeg) like the white power brigade and claim any situation is reverse-racism or a double standard. Yet, you lack the objective clarity to even fathom the other side of the argument. You're white, you feel wronged, and thats as far as it goes for you.
There are plenty people of color, in this thread here, that can objectively assess the situation and see how while it is a matter of freedom of speech, it is also a matter of making a racist joke while working for a huge corporation. They can see most sides of the argument, why can't you?
You created this thread with no other purpose but to put your rant out there. Why can I make this assumption? Because your history of posts on here and the tonation of your opening post suggests nothing else. You don't seek to have a better understanding of the situation, you seek to label it and place blame.
If you have nothing to add to the topic at hand then maybe you should review the rules of this forum.
This is a topic of discussion that can be an intelligent one, sadly you cant contribute with any real knowledge.
1. I don't like columbo
2. J-boeg is a faggot.
3. Like the white power brigade? Come on son. What im talkin about is REAL TALK unlike the shit coming out of your head. Rappers sit here and degrade wemon on a constant basis to make profit off of it, they also support drug use, killing, etc etc etc... somones gunna get canned cuz they used the word hoes then it needs to be that way with everyone or not at all.
You lack the brain cells required to understand how i feel, because im not feeling wronged, Im simply asking for equality on the matter. A white man can say nigger, and its the biggest deal ever, people are blood thirsty. A blackman says Cracker/hookie/insertracialslurhere, and its like you think its not the same thing. No one gives a fuck, thats the double standard.
I dont understand your arguement for this. All you other people sitting here saying, "well its a radio station its different from a record company" Yeah, radio stations have standards to upload but so does society. Record labels have almost no standards as far as the material they produce, if you want to take action against people for using a term, then the rules applies both ways and no one can use it then.
You created this thread with no other purpose but to put your rant out there. Why can I make this assumption? Because your history of posts on here and the tonation of your opening post suggests nothing else. You don't seek to have a better understanding of the situation, you seek to label it and place blame.[/QUOTE]
This is a topic of discussion that can be an intelligent one, sadly you cant contribute with any real knowledge.
1. I don't like columbo
2. J-boeg is a faggot.
3. Like the white power brigade? Come on son. What im talkin about is REAL TALK unlike the shit coming out of your head. Rappers sit here and degrade wemon on a constant basis to make profit off of it, they also support drug use, killing, etc etc etc... somones gunna get canned cuz they used the word hoes then it needs to be that way with everyone or not at all.
You lack the brain cells required to understand how i feel, because im not feeling wronged, Im simply asking for equality on the matter. A white man can say nigger, and its the biggest deal ever, people are blood thirsty. A blackman says Cracker/hookie/insertracialslurhere, and its like you think its not the same thing. No one gives a fuck, thats the double standard.
I dont understand your arguement for this. All you other people sitting here saying, "well its a radio station its different from a record company" Yeah, radio stations have standards to upload but so does society. Record labels have almost no standards as far as the material they produce, if you want to take action against people for using a term, then the rules applies both ways and no one can use it then.
You created this thread with no other purpose but to put your rant out there. Why can I make this assumption? Because your history of posts on here and the tonation of your opening post suggests nothing else. You don't seek to have a better understanding of the situation, you seek to label it and place blame.[/QUOTE]