Unjust arrests

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Y-S

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Do you think in America unjustified arrests have more percent than justified arrests? Or are in rise? What do you think can be done to solve this kind of problem?
 
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I don't know about percent... but some 3 strike cases in California are pretty unjust... fools getting L's for stealing shoes and slices of pizza... and I totally disagree with mandatory drug sentencing... That doesn't really answer the question though...
 
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The legal system is set up to ensure America has modern day slaves. A war on poverty instead of a war on drugs would dramatically reduce drug abuse--but where is the profit in that?
 
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Lordbyron said:
but some 3 strike cases in California are pretty unjust... fools getting L's for stealing shoes and slices of pizza... and I totally disagree with mandatory drug sentencing... That doesn't really answer the question though...
very true, my baby's momz' dad is an OG outta fairfield and he's locked up for 15 with an L because for his last strike he stole some motor oil for his car..
 

HERESY

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Do you think in America unjustified arrests have more percent than justified arrests?
That depends on your definition of justified and unjustified. Are the majority done according to law and policy? I would say it is 50/50. However, that opinion could change within a matter of my next post. How many of these unjustified arrests result in a conviction?

What do you think can be done to solve this kind of problem?
If such a problem exists you need more communities becoming involved in community policing. This type of action can actually alleviate a lot of the problems between the community and the police. In addition, if the police drop the "us against them" mentality and start talking to the people about policy instead of saying "no comment" or playing phone tag, these problems would be curbed substantially.
 
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HERESY said:
If such a problem exists you need more communities becoming involved in community policing. This type of action can actually alleviate a lot of the problems between the community and the police.
I agree with this 100%.. ive thought about that before and came up with many more questions like, who doles out the punishments? who is best established to lead the community policing?
 

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Hmmm...definition of justified and unjust.......I guess the 'just' would be the fair arrest and 'unjust' would be unfair arrest. I don't know, it's complicated

Perhaps, the true definition of an unjustified arrest would be the best example of speaking your voice, your opinion and your own thoughts
 

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TROLL said:
I agree with this 100%.. ive thought about that before and came up with many more questions like, who doles out the punishments? who is best established to lead the community policing?
Some forms of community policing involve the DA or someone from the DA's office and they basically act as a mod or judge. Most of community policing deals with quality of life crimes, and studies show that when quality of life crimes are not handled promptly and effectively the crime rate goes up. The ones that have the DA's involvement usually focus on a concept called "restorative justice", and this has more to do with the offender righting the wrong instead of the offender doing time and paying restitution to the courts. An example would be if egged your car and tossed mud all over it. If we had a community court I would have to wash your car for like 3 months instead of paying fines to the court and going to jail.

As for who is best established at leading community policing I believe that is a case by case scenario that actually depends on the level of crime and the makeup of teh community.
 

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Y-S said:
Perhaps, the true definition of an unjustified arrest would be the best example of speaking your voice, your opinion and your own thoughts
So what would be the definition of a true justified arrest?

Can your opinion or voicing of thoughts lead to you being arrested by the police? Yes. Is this what you are talking about? If so, you are most likely being arrested for something else, but because they didn't like you doing whatever it is you were doing (voicing your opinions etc) you were arrested. Can you be arrested for simply speaking your mind? No, that is a violation of the constitution, but you speaking your mind can lead to you being arrested for something else. Do you understand what I am trying to say?