Understanding what going gold means

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Aug 22, 2006
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Ive heard countless times since the certification of My Ghetto Report Card that goin gold aint shit.... blah, blah. If you sell 500,000 copies in the US, that means one out every 500 people have purchased a copy of your CD. put that in perspective, its rap music so not alot of people over 40 is likely to be purchasing an album, so knock 45 million people off that list. the twelve and under crowd can be counted out if you have explicit lyrics so kill another 45 mill on that side. that leaves 160 million even in the age range to purchase the music, which im sure over half would never think of buying a rap cd, so now your playing with a rap population of 80 million(MAXIMUM!!!!!!!), which is retardedly high IMO, and if a half mill pick up your cd, 1 out of 160 people in the rap community have purchased your CD, sounds pretty amazing to me. only 92 cd's in music history(100+ years of charting) of ANY GENRE have sold 10 million or more. you can add another 40 that have dropped 8 mill or more. going platinumn has never been easy, especially in hip hop. im willing to bet there aint 500 rap albums all time that have gone gold, so with 40 and short having 4 or 5 a piece that have made it there from a small market like the bay area california, or more impressively for e-40 from a city thats a couple of stoplights long, its simply incredible. so add the successof con-funk-shun and N2Deep, Vallejo may be the music mecca of the world. their underground artist scene is incredible. hell, two of the best spitters to ever touch the mic called vallejo their home. thats shocking, pimps!!!!!!!
 
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Lil Rebel said:
music mecca yet no one can name 10 rappers that can appeal to the world (consistantly) thats from Vallejo
I don't think there'e 10 rappers that can appeal to the world from any city Richmond, Vallejo, ETC.
 
Aug 22, 2006
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"music mecca yet no one can name 10 rappers that can appeal to the world (consistantly) thats from Vallejo"

first off, rap aint the only form of music. think outside the box, my nigga. and i meant per capita, obviously vallejo doesnt contribute to the world like a new york does in terms of production. but regional success as far as the entire west coast, more vallejo artist have made their niche in rap in the bay area, than cities 5 times their size. look how many v-town rappers have sold 200,000 units or more on one cd. B-Legit, Mac Dre, Celly Cel, Ray Luv, Young Lay, Dubee, Mac Mall, Suga T, E-40, the Click, N2Deep, Baby Bash......., you feelin me now, family? name me that many San Fran or Oakland rappers off the top that have sold like these cats from a city of less than 100,000 people.
 
Feb 12, 2006
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g_fonz said:
"music mecca yet no one can name 10 rappers that can appeal to the world (consistantly) thats from Vallejo"

first off, rap aint the only form of music. think outside the box, my nigga. and i meant per capita, obviously vallejo doesnt contribute to the world like a new york does in terms of production. but regional success as far as the entire west coast, more vallejo artist have made their niche in rap in the bay area, than cities 5 times their size. look how many v-town rappers have sold 200,000 units or more on one cd. B-Legit, Mac Dre, Celly Cel, Ray Luv, Young Lay, Dubee, Mac Mall, Suga T, E-40, the Click, N2Deep, Baby Bash......., you feelin me now, family? name me that many San Fran or Oakland rappers off the top that have sold like these cats from a city of less than 100,000 people.
look how many v-town rappers have sold 200,000 units or more on one cd. B-Legit, Mac Dre, Celly Cel, Ray Luv, Young Lay, Dubee, Mac Mall, Suga T, E-40, the Click, N2Deep, Baby Bash......., there is no way that all of them have sold 200,000 on one cd, trippin. e-40, N2Deep, Dre and The Click MAYBE
 
Aug 22, 2006
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e-40, N2Deep, Dre and The Click MAYBE

look it up. b-legit's hemp museum, celly's killa kali, suga's paperchasin 4eva hustlin, baby bash was gold. i aint made the shit up dog. Mac Mall Untouchable(hell, the Get Right video was on BET all day back in the day), real shit.
 
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707senator707 said:
So we can be accurate mac dre, dubee, and ray luv never sold 200,000 copies on 1 album. But the 1st mossie cd did and a compalation called soutwest riders did as well. I bet lil italy did too when he released a album on no limit cuz they were at there peak then. D shot as well sold over 200k on 1 album too. Side note ray luv is from santa rosa...... Vallejo is a little ass city knowen all over the world....
regardless they better than any bullshit the mossie will ever put out
 
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bigbosstalk said:
isnt ray luv from santa rosa
yeah he is, but when he dropped forever hustlin' the cd was all recorded in vallejo, i assume, thats why people get it twisted, he hooked up /w khayree, then dropped his cd
 
Aug 6, 2006
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g_fonz said:
"music mecca yet no one can name 10 rappers that can appeal to the world (consistantly) thats from Vallejo"
family? name me that many San Fran or Oakland rappers off the top that have sold like these cats from a city of less than 100,000 people.
You're exaggerating cuz.. Put up some figures and stop pulling this stuff out of your ass. Ain't none of them niggas sold over 200,000, just Baby Bash and The Click(B-Legit, E-40, & D-Shot). 4 people! Mac Mall maybe, but I'm not too sure so I'll leave that one open.

Oakland - Spice 1, Too Short, MC Hammer, 2Pac, Yukmouth(Solo), Digital Underground, The Luniz(As A Group), Steady Mobb'n(Bavgate & Crooked Eye when they were signed to no-limit), Dru Down, etc..

Honorable mention, Heiroglyphics & Delinquents..

^Not sure if they actually reached 200,000.. But that's about right cuz. Considering that half of the people you named from Vallejo did not sale that much, and Oakland is 4 times bigger, that's 4 times as many people that sold over 200,000. Ya'll put too much on that little city, congrats to 40 but don't try and make it look like some small ass city in the north bay is out shining everyone else, coz that's far from the truth.
 

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Mac Dre never sold 200,000 on any givin album unless you count his appearance on West Coast bad Boyz 2 and Ray Luv isn't from Vallejo
 
Aug 22, 2006
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Ok, i slightly exaggerated on the mac dre, that was just an assumption, false hope i guess. Here's what i was able to find. here are mac dre's most succesful cd's as of sometime in 2005. the last number is the total album sales. he's sold over 400,000 overall. thats pretty impressive nonetheless for a nigga thats never had a video on mtv or bet.

MAC DRE PRESENTS A ROMPILATION/1996-12-10/68,589
STUPID DOO DOO DUMB/1998-04-07/55,639
RAPPER GONE BAD/1999-09-28/40,678
YOUNG BLACK BROTHER/1993-05-17/39,485
WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?/1992-03-24/37,580
BEST OF MAC DRE/2002-02-26/34,718
YOUNG BLACK BROTHA/1996-12-24/33,538
THIZZELL WASHINGTON/2002-08-27/30,575
RONALD DREGAN-DREGANOMICS/2004-06-29/26,140
GAME IS THICK PT 2/2004-10-19/24,280
 
Aug 22, 2006
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Ok, i slightly exaggerated on the mac dre, that was just an assumption, false hope i guess. Here's what i was able to find. here are mac dre's most succesful cd's as of sometime in 2005. the last number is the total album sales. he's sold over 400,000 overall. thats pretty impressive nonetheless for a nigga thats never had a video on mtv or bet.

MAC DRE PRESENTS A ROMPILATION/1996-12-10/68,589
STUPID DOO DOO DUMB/1998-04-07/55,639
RAPPER GONE BAD/1999-09-28/40,678
YOUNG BLACK BROTHER/1993-05-17/39,485
WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?/1992-03-24/37,580
BEST OF MAC DRE/2002-02-26/34,718
YOUNG BLACK BROTHA/1996-12-24/33,538
THIZZELL WASHINGTON/2002-08-27/30,575
RONALD DREGAN-DREGANOMICS/2004-06-29/26,140
GAME IS THICK PT 2/2004-10-19/24,280


and furthermore, i know more niggas in the bay alone got more bootleg copies of every cd on this list than that low ass soundscan number. not for bootlegging, dre may have had some gold plaques. real talk!!!!!