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MrPeete

MrPeete

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Right now it's considered fashionable that whenever someone has a hit record out, every other artist in the country grabs the instrumental to that song to do their version.

I'll use "New York, New York" as an example. That's a hit (I guess) and since it's a hit, everyone wants to do their own version of it. With this particular song, a lot of the appeal is in representing where you're from or whatever which is understandable. But let's forget that this song ever existed...

Here's my question - Let's say hypothetically the song "New York, New York" never existed. Let's also say that I was the one that created this beat. If I was trying to sell you this beat, what would you think? Would you buy this beat? Or would you tell me to skip to the next one?
 
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kos

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ITS HARD TO SAY , CUZ ALOT OF BEATS ARE BANGIN ASS FUCK JUST BY THEMSELVES , BUT SOME TRACKS YOU MIGHT NOT FEEL THE NEXT NIGGA SEES A VISION FOR THE SONG AND BRINGS THE BEAT TO LIFE , AND I MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I WOULDA CHOSE THAT BEAT BUT THATS COMING FROM A PLACE OF ALREADY HEARING WHAT JADA AND THEM DID WITH IT SO I THINK ITS HARD TO ANSWER THAT HONESTLY , BUT I FEEL WHAT YOU TALKIN ABOUT THO , CUZ I'LL HEAR A HARD SONG , AND THEN READ ABOUT ALL THE ARTIST WHO PASSED UP ON THAT TRACK AND MIGHT THINK TO MYSELF "WHY THE FUCK THEM NIGGAZ PASS THAT SHIT UP " YADDADDAMEAN ?
 
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ALKOHOL

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Very good point.....alot of cats pass up tight beats and choose the beat that is so full of music that there is no room for the lyricist...plain beats always win. I mean you take almost any tight hiphop song and play the instrumental and you have a plain beat...cats need to realize that your voice the the key instrument placed over the beat that makes the song whole....not just pick beats that are already finished without the lyrics....that why bay area cats think the bay area got the best producers...some are tight some are not..like anywhere else...a producer produces the song not just makes the beat..makes a full song.
 
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GAME INSANE

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ALKOHOL said:
Very good point.....alot of cats pass up tight beats and choose the beat that is so full of music that there is no room for the lyricist...plain beats always win. I mean you take almost any tight hiphop song and play the instrumental and you have a plain beat...cats need to realize that your voice the the key instrument placed over the beat that makes the song whole....not just pick beats that are already finished without the lyrics....that why bay area cats think the bay area got the best producers...some are tight some are not..like anywhere else...a producer produces the song not just makes the beat..makes a full song.
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Good point folx...I learned this the hard way..
 
Checkmate Muzik

Checkmate Muzik

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that's funny cause i never liked the beat for NewYork NewYork but it made a big hit!! To me it sounds like the Nas beat of "if i ruled the world".

Ja Rule did a good job on the hook, maybe thats what made a hit. I still think the song aint all that but cats is on that record.
 
DJ Mark 7

DJ Mark 7

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this is a GREAT point....in the new issue of Scratch, even dude from The Neptunes said that cats will hear a beat....turn it down...Then a few months later when they hear someone ELSE on it, will be like "Yo why don't u hit me wit beats like THAT?" lol....Sometimes it takes an artist to make it REAL hot
 
Cuddie Cut

Cuddie Cut

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ALKOHOL said:
Very good point.....alot of cats pass up tight beats and choose the beat that is so full of music that there is no room for the lyricist...plain beats always win. I mean you take almost any tight hiphop song and play the instrumental and you have a plain beat...cats need to realize that your voice the the key instrument placed over the beat that makes the song whole....
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damn, i thought i was the only one who thought that way.....

great thread tho Dion....


when i made my mixtape, i didn't pick tracks out, because they were radio hits....i member asking sadclown to hook me up with as many instrumentals as he could......and then i began choosing them.....
 
GHP

GHP

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Jul 21, 2002
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I think alot of us Bay cats just don't like the mainstream songs just cuz they aren't bay rappers spitting over them. Ja Rule could make the sickest song in the world but people would shit all over it cuz they don't like him cuz he is who he is.
 
RODZILLA

RODZILLA

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ALKOHOL said:
Very good point.....alot of cats pass up tight beats and choose the beat that is so full of music that there is no room for the lyricist...plain beats always win. I mean you take almost any tight hiphop song and play the instrumental and you have a plain beat...cats need to realize that your voice the the key instrument placed over the beat that makes the song whole....not just pick beats that are already finished without the lyrics....that why bay area cats think the bay area got the best producers...some are tight some are not..like anywhere else...a producer produces the song not just makes the beat..makes a full song.
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1 of the realest posts I ever read on these boards right here. That's what I've come to realize after a few years analyzing everything in the studio. It's so simple, yet so difficult for cats to understand.
 
Eddie Fresh

Eddie Fresh

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Apr 12, 2003
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Like alot of other have said...I feel that the artist completes the song if they have the right vision for it. For example: I gave Deco this beat that he passed on about a year ago, he heard it again just recently & used it. Guess he wasnt ready for it back then.
 
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yung-g

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i mean it all depends wit me, but i prolly wouldn't of choose the "New York, New York" beat. its like i'm feelin that chingy "balla baby" beat, but i cant hear myself anywhere on it, and when i write to it, i aint feelin it.
but its like KOS said, sometimes u aint feelin it until the next man points a vision out to u, that gets u on it.
 
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