Titan Regular Season Thread
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i came in here talking shit about the raiders before the season even started and last year too....
face it their a terrible franchise at the moment and no shit talking or thread making is going to change that...
my team shits all over your team in every since of the game....what i said about the raiders was reality...thats why no one debated what i said they just chose to talk shit about the titans...boohoo raider fans
face it their a terrible franchise at the moment and no shit talking or thread making is going to change that...
my team shits all over your team in every since of the game....what i said about the raiders was reality...thats why no one debated what i said they just chose to talk shit about the titans...boohoo raider fans
if we dont retain Collins VYs going to start for this team next season...as scary as it might seem to some people....
what you read was from the first couple weeks of the season...i think all that shit came from fisher talking about putting VY up in the manager booths and shit...nothing came from it...
i allways see VY on the sidelines giving KC props if he does good...talking to WRs...talking to coaches...sometimes on the phone...
what you read was from the first couple weeks of the season...i think all that shit came from fisher talking about putting VY up in the manager booths and shit...nothing came from it...
i allways see VY on the sidelines giving KC props if he does good...talking to WRs...talking to coaches...sometimes on the phone...
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Posted: January 13, 2009
Sporting News staff reports
Vince Young hasn't seemed to connect with his teammates all season after being benched in favor of Kerry Collins in Week 1. Next season may be his last chance to get things right with the Titans, and the team could even try to move him in the offseason, according to reports.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King wrote early in the season that Young was rebuffing Collins' attempts to mentor him and teach him how to bounce back from adversity. King wrote after interviewing Titans players last Thursday that, "from what I saw this week, Young's still not willing to listen." Young didn't loosen up with teammates before the Titans-Ravens game, wasn't available to talk in the locker room during practices leading up to game day, and sat alone on the bench during the game.
On Monday, Collins said he wants to start again for the Titans next year, and reports like King's suggest the team might be better off going with the 36-year-old Collins rather than their No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft. (Young went No. 3 overall.)
The Titans say they intend to re-sign not only Collins but also No. 3 quarterback Chris Simms for 2009.
Young has three years left on his contract and is scheduled to make $2.16 million in 2009 with a total salary cap number of $4.6 million. That salary increases to $7.5 million in 2010 ($14.2 million against the cap) and $8.5 million in 2011. If the team were to cut Young in 2009, he would count $7.74 million against their cap immediately because of bonuses that would come due, according to Sports Illustrated. King writes that might be a bargain compared with keeping Young into 2010.
So Mooreblock how do you "allways" see Vince on the sidelines giving KC props, talking to Wr's, etc...? Here is what Peter King said about Vince Young:
Vince Young gives off about the worst body language of any backup quarterback I've ever seen.
I was in the Titans' locker room Thursday for 45 minutes and never saw a sign of Young, who lockers next to Kerry Collins and a couple of stalls down from third-stringer Chris Simms. Collins and Simms enjoyed the time in media-access, talking to an out-of-town reporter or two about their team, their old teams, Brett Favre, the Browns hiring Eric Mangini and anything else that came up. Nice, easy conversation. No Young. That's par for the course, one Titans source told me. Young's not one to pal around or shoot the breeze much with Collins.
On Saturday, a few minutes before the opening kickoff of the playoff game against Baltimore, there was Young, the once and perhaps future quarterback king of Tennessee, sitting alone on the bench. Out on the field, loosening up between the Martina McBride rendition of the anthem and the start of the game, was Collins, throwing to a receiver with Simms throwing the ball back.
Before the opening kickoff, Collins and Simms talked together, with Young still on the bench. And often during the game -- except when the three quarterbacks gathered between series with offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger -- Young was away from the action, just watching in his Titans' coat. Maybe there were times when he suggested something to Collins or Heimerdinger, but I never saw it.
When Collins took Young's job early in the season, I wrote that Young was rebuffing Collins' attempt to take him under his wing and show him how to rebound from adversity and become a better player. From what I saw this week, Young's still not willing to listen. A shame. It'll be interesting to see how the Titans, with the sudden arrival of the offseason, handle the Young story. I'd be surprised if they didn't aggressively try to re-sign Collins, whose contract is up. Where would signing Collins leave Young? My feeling is the Titans will look to move him. That's going to be the big story of the Tennessee offseason.
Salary cap-wise, the Titans are under no immediate pressure to move Young. The third-year quarterback's 2009 cap number is a very palatable $4.6 million, but it jumps to $14.2 million in 2010. And if they either cut him or trade him in 2009, he would count as $7.74 million on their cap in 2009 because of the pro-rated signing bonuses and guarantees that would come due immediately. The Titans haven't reached the point of no return with Young the way they did with Pacman Jones a year ago; it's not even close. But they might figure that a $7.74-million cap hit would be a small price to pay to be rid of the Young distraction if they can re-sign Collins.
One big factor in Young's future: Owner Bud Adams, a Texan through and through, loved the pick of Young in the 2006 draft. I doubt he'd be happy with giving up on Young after three star-crossed years. Would he draw a line in the sand and say to Jeff Fisher and GM Mike Reinfeldt, "You can't trade or release Young?'' He might.
Posted: January 13, 2009
Sporting News staff reports
Vince Young hasn't seemed to connect with his teammates all season after being benched in favor of Kerry Collins in Week 1. Next season may be his last chance to get things right with the Titans, and the team could even try to move him in the offseason, according to reports.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King wrote early in the season that Young was rebuffing Collins' attempts to mentor him and teach him how to bounce back from adversity. King wrote after interviewing Titans players last Thursday that, "from what I saw this week, Young's still not willing to listen." Young didn't loosen up with teammates before the Titans-Ravens game, wasn't available to talk in the locker room during practices leading up to game day, and sat alone on the bench during the game.
On Monday, Collins said he wants to start again for the Titans next year, and reports like King's suggest the team might be better off going with the 36-year-old Collins rather than their No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft. (Young went No. 3 overall.)
The Titans say they intend to re-sign not only Collins but also No. 3 quarterback Chris Simms for 2009.
Young has three years left on his contract and is scheduled to make $2.16 million in 2009 with a total salary cap number of $4.6 million. That salary increases to $7.5 million in 2010 ($14.2 million against the cap) and $8.5 million in 2011. If the team were to cut Young in 2009, he would count $7.74 million against their cap immediately because of bonuses that would come due, according to Sports Illustrated. King writes that might be a bargain compared with keeping Young into 2010.
So Mooreblock how do you "allways" see Vince on the sidelines giving KC props, talking to Wr's, etc...? Here is what Peter King said about Vince Young:
Vince Young gives off about the worst body language of any backup quarterback I've ever seen.
I was in the Titans' locker room Thursday for 45 minutes and never saw a sign of Young, who lockers next to Kerry Collins and a couple of stalls down from third-stringer Chris Simms. Collins and Simms enjoyed the time in media-access, talking to an out-of-town reporter or two about their team, their old teams, Brett Favre, the Browns hiring Eric Mangini and anything else that came up. Nice, easy conversation. No Young. That's par for the course, one Titans source told me. Young's not one to pal around or shoot the breeze much with Collins.
On Saturday, a few minutes before the opening kickoff of the playoff game against Baltimore, there was Young, the once and perhaps future quarterback king of Tennessee, sitting alone on the bench. Out on the field, loosening up between the Martina McBride rendition of the anthem and the start of the game, was Collins, throwing to a receiver with Simms throwing the ball back.
Before the opening kickoff, Collins and Simms talked together, with Young still on the bench. And often during the game -- except when the three quarterbacks gathered between series with offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger -- Young was away from the action, just watching in his Titans' coat. Maybe there were times when he suggested something to Collins or Heimerdinger, but I never saw it.
When Collins took Young's job early in the season, I wrote that Young was rebuffing Collins' attempt to take him under his wing and show him how to rebound from adversity and become a better player. From what I saw this week, Young's still not willing to listen. A shame. It'll be interesting to see how the Titans, with the sudden arrival of the offseason, handle the Young story. I'd be surprised if they didn't aggressively try to re-sign Collins, whose contract is up. Where would signing Collins leave Young? My feeling is the Titans will look to move him. That's going to be the big story of the Tennessee offseason.
Salary cap-wise, the Titans are under no immediate pressure to move Young. The third-year quarterback's 2009 cap number is a very palatable $4.6 million, but it jumps to $14.2 million in 2010. And if they either cut him or trade him in 2009, he would count as $7.74 million on their cap in 2009 because of the pro-rated signing bonuses and guarantees that would come due immediately. The Titans haven't reached the point of no return with Young the way they did with Pacman Jones a year ago; it's not even close. But they might figure that a $7.74-million cap hit would be a small price to pay to be rid of the Young distraction if they can re-sign Collins.
One big factor in Young's future: Owner Bud Adams, a Texan through and through, loved the pick of Young in the 2006 draft. I doubt he'd be happy with giving up on Young after three star-crossed years. Would he draw a line in the sand and say to Jeff Fisher and GM Mike Reinfeldt, "You can't trade or release Young?'' He might.
ive watched every titan game this year...VY acts no different then KC did in the same situation...he IS with his teamates (kc, scafie , justin gage , lendale) on the sideline...this "body language" shit boggles my mind...how is a back up qb SPOUSE to act? im no body language expert but im not sure i see a difference between VY and any back qb in the leauge...
peter king is an ass...he never liked the VY pick...
he went from face of the franchise RIGHT when he got drafted, did ok and fell off...got benched...of course the local media is going to stir shit up...
bud adams says VY is the future of the franchise...it doesnt matter how much the media doesnt like it...
peter king is an ass...he never liked the VY pick...
he went from face of the franchise RIGHT when he got drafted, did ok and fell off...got benched...of course the local media is going to stir shit up...
bud adams says VY is the future of the franchise...it doesnt matter how much the media doesnt like it...