I feel u Moe!! Racism unfortunately will always exist in this world believe it or not!! And the cop situation is tru! Not every single cop, but alot of them do fuck wit black folks more than white folks! I mean its not right, but some of my white homies say the same thang as Moe!! I mean shit at my video shoot in livermore a couple years ago, the fuckin cops were racial profiling. They let all my white, & latin folks drive off after the shoot while they pulled over just about every black person there I knew. When actually no one did shit wrong. I mean they pulled over my cousin's shit, Big Draws shit from 211, and some other folks. It was the biggest bullshit I ever seen. And I didnt hold no grudges to my white potna's who didnt get pulled over, cause I know in society the shit exist and its a shame though!! And it was my white potnas that was hittin me on my cell lettin me know "hey when yall leave the park watchout, cause the cops is pullin mufuckas over" So aint no racism in me, but it does and will always exist!! As for the music and them magazines, fuck em. I mean I hear stories, about how Elvis succeeded doin black music. I mean back then racism was way worse and there were alot of black folks that was doin the same shit, but didnt make then elvis came along and blew up!! But ofcourse thats how it was back then, but shit we cant keep livin in the past. All we can do is make shit better! Do yo thang Rae!!
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RAE I DONT KNOW WHY YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY, I AINT BOUGHT A SOURCE MAG IN LIKE 2 YEARS.... I NEVER REALLY EVER DID LIKE THAT SHIT, I NORMALLY WOULD JUST SKIM THRU IT AND PURCHASE A MURDER DOG MAG..... I MEAN FOR ALL WE KNOW CATS AT MURDER DOG COULD BE RACIST, AND BIASED AND ALL THAT SHIT..... BUT THE FACT SOURCE CAME OUT AND SAID WHAT THEY DID IS PATHETIC.... BUT FACT IS, THATS WHAT HE HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERYDAY..... THE DEEPER I GET INTO THE RAP GAME THE MORE I WITNESS IT, THERE ALOT OF MAFUCCAZ THAT THINK ONLY BLACK FOLX SHOULD BE RAPPIN, AND ANYONE ELSE IS JUST A HOAX OR GIMICK..... OR A CLOWN..... OR PEOPLE HEAR 1-2 WHITE RAPPERS THAT SUCK AND JUST ASSUME ALL WHITE FOLX CANT SPIT...... IM LIKE FUCC IT THO, I'LL SPIT WITH OR AGAINST ANYONE..... ITS ALL ABOUT RESPECT IN THIS GAME, AND ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, SO HOW WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO ACT RIGHT.... SOME PEOPLE THINK ITS COOL TO TALK ABOUT OTHER RACES, AND MAY HAVE A FEW PEOPLE AGREE WITH THEM, BUT OVERALL, TIMES HAVE CHANGED, AND THE VERY MAN YOU MIGHT DISS NOW, MIGHT AND WILL END UP BITING YOU IN THE ASS IN THE END...... I THINK THIS ARTICLE IS GOOD..... ITS GONNA GET MORE FANS TO SEE HOW IGNORANT SOME CATS ARE, AND MORE FANS FOR EMENIM...... I DONT SUPPORT THE COLOR OF MUZIC, I SUPPORT THE QUALITY OF THE MUZIC, AND THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT..... CUZ I DONE HEARD SOME GARBAGE ASS BLACK FOLX RAP AS WELL AS WHITE CATS ETC... ETC....
King Czar and Moe - you're the only 2 posters to put this in context. props 2 you. that doesn't mean the article was bullshit, it was. but elvis and all those white rock and rollers did make major bank through what was considered "black music" at the time while black artists were starving. soak up some history, thats a historical fact. that is some more context to it. there is more still. its way more complicated than "they're being racist, fuck them"-- my 2 cents.
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AND MOE..... I FEEL WHAT YOU SAYIN..... BUT FACT IS IN THE SOUTHBAY, ITS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.... THE COPS OUT HERE DONT GIVE A FUCC IF YOU WHITE OR BLACK OR MEXICAN..... MAYBEE CUZ THIS AREA IS MORE DIVERSES RACE WISE...... BUT DONE BEEN FACE 1ST ON THE GROUND WITH MY HOMIES, AND STRAPS TO THE BACC OF OUR NECKS, CUZ A MAFUCCA DIDNT USE HIS BLINKER..... AND TO BE HONEST THE COPS SEEM TO FUCC WITH ME WORSE, BEING THAT MOSTLY ALL MY HOMIES WERE BLACK, THEY WANNA KNOW WHY I GOT ALL THIS GOLD ON, WHERE AND WHY I GOT A CELL PHONE, ETC.....ETC... MOST TIMES, A MAFUCCA REALLY WASNT DOIN SHIT, BUT THE COPS SEE A PILE OF PEOPLE IN A NICE CAR, AND RED AND BLUES FLASH..... A COUPLE OMIES GOT PULLED OVER HAND CUFFED AND DUMPED IN A ALLEY WITH THE HAND CUFFS STILL ON, AND HAD TO WALK HOME..... BUT THE COPS OUT HERE AINT TRIPPIN, AND IF YOU GET AN ATTITUDE WITH THEM YOU GONNA GET IT TWICE AS HARD!!! SHIT AND SUNNYVALE MOSTLY SUBURBS, BUT LIKE 3-4 GHETTO AREAS, AND THEY WILL FUCC YOU UP IN AND OUT THAT AREA NOT CARING WHAT COLOR YOU ARE.... THEY WILL FOLLOW YOU ALL DAY TO, WE HAD A COP FOLLOW US ONCE FOR 15 MINUTES THRU THE NEIGHBORHOOD..... MADE EVERY TURN WE DID..... THEN WHEN WE STOPPED, THERE WAS 4 PATTY WAGONS, AND 2 OTHER 5.0'S WAITIN FOR US...... FACT IS MOST TIMES WE WASNY DOIN SHIT, JUST YOUNG, AND ROLLIN ROUND TOWN.... BUT THE FACT WE ALWAYS HAD CERTAIN COLORS ALWAYS ON, AND NICE RIDES AND SHIT, THEY AUTOMATICALLY FUCCED WITH YOU WHITE OR BLACK.... AND I AINT TRYIN TO SAY, OH I HAD IT SO HARD, BLA BLA BLA, I KNOW THE COPS IN ALOT OF AREAS DO FUCC WITH BLACK FOLX FOR THAT REASON, AND IF THEY SEE A WHITE CAT AROUND, THEY LIKE WTF YOU DOIN HERE..... I SEEN THAT SHIT TO, BUT ALL AREAS ARE DIFFERENT.....
and thats not cuz you were kickin it with blacks/latinos or cuz you were "acting black/latino"? cuz if it was, then thats an example of how racism against minorities targets WHITE people too, it targets those white people who are considered "WIGGERS" and "RACE TRAITORS" simply cuz they don't stick the rules that white racists decide for race.
YEAH I AINT GONNA LIE, ITS LIKE I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS JUST COPS IS JUST BITCHEZ, BUT I REAZIZE THEY DIDNT WANT ME HANGIN WITH BLACK FOLX.... BUT WHEN YOU GROW UP WITH BLACK FOLX, YOU DONT KNOW ANY DIFFERENT, BUT THE PIGS DONT GIVE A FUCC...... I PERSONALLY THINK THEY GET OFF ON FUCCIN WITH PEOPLE..... THEY GOT THAT BADGE THAT SAYS THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHIN THERE POWER....
Yea I dont know, cause I use to go to san jo all the time back in the day, and the cops used to fuck wit our black asses and other black folks, then when I would ride out there with my white potnas, cause I have potnsa of all races, well not all races but u get what Im sayin, and they wouldnt trip on us cruisin the strip or whatever, and like I said even my white homies would say that the cops are fucked up because they could tell the difference of how they act between a car full of black folks & a car full of mostly white folks, but like I said its even bigger than that, and there aint nuthin we could do about the cops feel me!! I have to say it has got alot better over the years though, but it does still exist unfortunately!!
^^^MAYBEE RECENTLY IT MAY BE BETTER, BUT IN MY ERA THE 92-98 DAYS..... YOU ROLLED DOWN TOWN AND HAD TOO NICE OF A RIDE OR A BUCKET, LOOK A LIL THUGGISH OR JUST ALOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CAR, THEY PULL YA ASS OVER AND FUCK WITH YOU!!! AND BACC THEN WE USED TO BE MOUTHY, SO THAT ALWAYS MADE IT WORSE, BUT ITS LIKE YOU COULDNT EVEN TALK TO THE PIGS BACK THEN.... THEY TRY TO BASICALLY TAKE YA DIGNITY AWAY.... BUT I SAY FUCK IT, PIGS ARE CALLED THAT FOR A REASON..... BUT I THINK OVER THE YEARS THEY GOT A LIL SMARTER, THEY CANT GET AWAY WITH ALOT OF THE SHIT THEY USED TO DO.... BUT I CANT TRUST A PIG, EVEN IF IM DRIVING SOLO I BEEN FUCCED WITH..... BUT I KNOW IF I DRESSED LIKE A NERD AND TALKED ALL PROPER, THEY PROLLY WOULDNT FUCC WITH YOU EITHER.... WHO KNOWS?
I think thats a difference though. If a young black male or a young Latino male is driving a brand new BMW, it doesnt matter if he talks proper or dresses like a square, he will be pulled over. If a white male dresses thugged out of course he will be fucked with, its not like they dont send white thugs to jail too. But if a white dude looks like a square and talks in an educated upper-class proper way, 99.9999% of the time he will NOT get fucked with. Its race AND class AND the perceived attitude of the person. But race is definitely ONE factor.
and as far as the topic...
You right Rae, that is some shit. I feel you as an educated latino male reading through that shit and just thinking to yourself, "Damn, I feel fuckin sick now". It really is to a point of disgust. Who the fuck is racist? Ignorant ma' fuckas that's who. And THAT shit ain't gotta do wit race. Every race has ignorant people. Everyone get mad at some race for one reason or another, but that ain't no reason to call someone white trash or a beaner. I hate when I hear people say "Did you see that mexican outside?" or "Some black guy just came through looken for you". WTF? What, he didn't have a name? What, people ain't got names? At least I know a black guy came looking for me, that narrows it down...and it's things like that that people say and do daily that are racist. People don't even realize it, but the subconscious picks that shit up. I see racism alot in hip-hop too and until everyone kills that white/black shit, we aren't going to progress as a culture or as a music. I ain't even read about all the Benzino Eminem beef. I just know a little bit. From what I know, and I don't even have to read the Source's shit, I don't wanna buy a Source magazine ever again. That is pathetic if Benzino had to use the Source as a crutch for his garbage music. And he lost the Eminem beef when he tried to step at a real MC. Don't even gotta hear the disses it's pointless. And it is horrible that the Source had to resort to racism to try and and make a point. (as I light a blunt) Here's to diversity and intelligent people
You right Rae, that is some shit. I feel you as an educated latino male reading through that shit and just thinking to yourself, "Damn, I feel fuckin sick now". It really is to a point of disgust. Who the fuck is racist? Ignorant ma' fuckas that's who. And THAT shit ain't gotta do wit race. Every race has ignorant people. Everyone get mad at some race for one reason or another, but that ain't no reason to call someone white trash or a beaner. I hate when I hear people say "Did you see that mexican outside?" or "Some black guy just came through looken for you". WTF? What, he didn't have a name? What, people ain't got names? At least I know a black guy came looking for me, that narrows it down...and it's things like that that people say and do daily that are racist. People don't even realize it, but the subconscious picks that shit up. I see racism alot in hip-hop too and until everyone kills that white/black shit, we aren't going to progress as a culture or as a music. I ain't even read about all the Benzino Eminem beef. I just know a little bit. From what I know, and I don't even have to read the Source's shit, I don't wanna buy a Source magazine ever again. That is pathetic if Benzino had to use the Source as a crutch for his garbage music. And he lost the Eminem beef when he tried to step at a real MC. Don't even gotta hear the disses it's pointless. And it is horrible that the Source had to resort to racism to try and and make a point. (as I light a blunt) Here's to diversity and intelligent people
Ok, check this shit out my "crackers & wet backs". NOW STOP & peep this. Just like you got all bent out of shape about them words, that's how my niggaz feel when other folx use the "N" word. Ready to put dem hands on ya!
Now about the Source. If ya'll don't like them stop bitchin about them and don't support em. We had local catz puttin out magazines and they didn't get as much coverage as what ya'll giving the Source. Benzino is half owner of the Source, so he's muthafuckin right to use his magazine to promote his shit. Wouldn't you? Don't lie!!! The Source are hypocrics. They talk about the Man -vs- Machine (Em & Cooperate America), but they are the Machine they talkin about. Just look at who the interview all the time. Look at Showcase Mag, they take yo ad dollars and don't give interviews to the local cats. Murder Dog is a lil better than all them cats and that's who I fuck wit. Next time you see a local magazine support that shit!!!
It's not so much about race all the time in some cases. I think it's all about the root of all evil, dem dead presidents. The machine is puttin a choke hold on the radio stations, records stores and you name it. It's hard to sell cd these days or just make a living. I know I'm going away from the subject, but feel me tho'. Moms & Pops are becoming a thing of the past. And we only got ourselves to blame. Until we start supporting our own, things are not gonna get any better anytime soon. Cats need to get more active in the community and be more selective were they spend dem dollars and VOTE. Put dem politicians in the unemployment line.
Don't hate on Zino. He's doing what Chuck D is doing, gettin at the Machine, but in different ways. Fuck the industry, lets take it back how it was in the Too Short, Hammer, 415, Egyptian Lovers days and do it independently.
KPOO plays all Bay Area shit, ya' dig.
Log on kpoo.com on the weekends. This sunday check out Woodie and his folx around 4p - 6p.
Mr. C
Now about the Source. If ya'll don't like them stop bitchin about them and don't support em. We had local catz puttin out magazines and they didn't get as much coverage as what ya'll giving the Source. Benzino is half owner of the Source, so he's muthafuckin right to use his magazine to promote his shit. Wouldn't you? Don't lie!!! The Source are hypocrics. They talk about the Man -vs- Machine (Em & Cooperate America), but they are the Machine they talkin about. Just look at who the interview all the time. Look at Showcase Mag, they take yo ad dollars and don't give interviews to the local cats. Murder Dog is a lil better than all them cats and that's who I fuck wit. Next time you see a local magazine support that shit!!!
It's not so much about race all the time in some cases. I think it's all about the root of all evil, dem dead presidents. The machine is puttin a choke hold on the radio stations, records stores and you name it. It's hard to sell cd these days or just make a living. I know I'm going away from the subject, but feel me tho'. Moms & Pops are becoming a thing of the past. And we only got ourselves to blame. Until we start supporting our own, things are not gonna get any better anytime soon. Cats need to get more active in the community and be more selective were they spend dem dollars and VOTE. Put dem politicians in the unemployment line.
Don't hate on Zino. He's doing what Chuck D is doing, gettin at the Machine, but in different ways. Fuck the industry, lets take it back how it was in the Too Short, Hammer, 415, Egyptian Lovers days and do it independently.
KPOO plays all Bay Area shit, ya' dig.
Log on kpoo.com on the weekends. This sunday check out Woodie and his folx around 4p - 6p.
Mr. C
I like what folks is talkin on....I was hope'n it would not break out into a race war on this thread but more of a discussion and it has for the most part....real good to see we can chop it up like some adults.
@ Tact - I didn't buy it homie...I put it down after reading.
I feel what you sayin C.Parker.....I ain't gonna lie homie....I am guilty of usin the N word in raps. I don't really have an excuse to be honest....I grew up round it and being called it myself so it grew on me and is something friends of mine as well as others say too often. Hard to break from it I guess. But I do like what you said...it made alot of sense.
Glad folks is readin this....I wanted to get some wheels turnin and see what kind of discussion we could have...so far so good.
Peace.
@ Tact - I didn't buy it homie...I put it down after reading.
I feel what you sayin C.Parker.....I ain't gonna lie homie....I am guilty of usin the N word in raps. I don't really have an excuse to be honest....I grew up round it and being called it myself so it grew on me and is something friends of mine as well as others say too often. Hard to break from it I guess. But I do like what you said...it made alot of sense.
Glad folks is readin this....I wanted to get some wheels turnin and see what kind of discussion we could have...so far so good.
Peace.
There have been some good points made and I can see the point of view of those who've posted. But the point is, Benzino, Harry Allen and David Mays are using those facts mentioned (about profiling, the industry etc.) for promotion of an artist who isn't that great, isn't representing anyone but himself, it's all a publicity stunt.
Yes there is still racism in many aspects of our lives today and yes it will more than likely continue. The whole point is that the Source is taking advantage of these divisions in our society to promote a cd. And they're doing it the name of the "streets" and real hip hop. I realize that they're just doing what a lot of black folks feel the white owned industry has done for years, but in reverse; they're using Eminem as a target/scapegoat, because he's white and gets good media coverage, and they're hoping to make money off the whole thing.
I realize that they are in a business, trying to make money, and THAT is the real focus of all this. It's fucked up how they're going about it. It's not REAL hip hop and what "streets" are they representing from the offices of the Source?
Yes there is still racism in many aspects of our lives today and yes it will more than likely continue. The whole point is that the Source is taking advantage of these divisions in our society to promote a cd. And they're doing it the name of the "streets" and real hip hop. I realize that they're just doing what a lot of black folks feel the white owned industry has done for years, but in reverse; they're using Eminem as a target/scapegoat, because he's white and gets good media coverage, and they're hoping to make money off the whole thing.
I realize that they are in a business, trying to make money, and THAT is the real focus of all this. It's fucked up how they're going about it. It's not REAL hip hop and what "streets" are they representing from the offices of the Source?