THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 SEASON THREAD

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NAMO

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I kinda want the raiders to do well inspite of al davis, this guy is like aids and its hard not to feel bad for the fans who have to put up with his shit.

but you guys wont go anywhere with JR unless there is a drastic change, this guy is horrible to watch and a real turn off, its like seeing the ugly side of the NFL, the side where a rich bum gets paid millions to play like shit while normal people struggle to make a living and sometimes the only thing they have to cheer for is their home team to do well..

keep bruce this guy is good to watch and plays with alot of spirit and its obvious the team wants him there cause they all have played better around him
 

Tony

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I've pretty much given up on Russell. He just has a poor all around work ethic. He was drafted number 1 overall, so we're expecting him to lead us to the SuperBowl one day. We never heard the words, SuperBowl or Championship come out of his mouth. But yet he held out for a fat guaranteed contract, and then shows up to training camp overweight. So not only is he immobile because of the extra weight his accuracy was off too.

He is somewhat to blame for our teams failures, so I am through with supporting Russell as our qb. I say we bring in an experienced GM, new head coach and then draft a qb, hopefully we don't miss (again).
 

Meta4iCAL

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I've pretty much given up on Russell. He just has a poor all around work ethic. He was drafted number 1 overall, so we're expecting him to lead us to the SuperBowl one day. We never heard the words, SuperBowl or Championship come out of his mouth. But yet he held out for a fat guaranteed contract, and then shows up to training camp overweight. So not only is he immobile because of the extra weight his accuracy was off too.

He is somewhat to blame for our teams failures, so I am through with supporting Russell as our qb. I say we bring in an experienced GM, new head coach and then draft a qb, hopefully we don't miss (again).
I don't think we shoudl draft a new QB... unless we can get a solid QB in the later rounds who can be a "project"

we need to build our offensive line... let Bruce play next season, we really don't know exactly what we have with him yet... but we know he can do a solid job, and he's mobile enough to move around and can get the ball off quick with a bad O-line

we can't draft another young QB and throw him out there, and set him up for abuse... also if we let our receivers develop a little more it will be better to have a young QB come in and play later when they're developed

we need to build from the trenches and have a get a good team, then plug in the QB... but who knows Gradkowski could be the answer... we might as well see what we have with him next season

either way... we need to get rid of Jamarcus faaaaaasssssssssssssst
 

Meta4iCAL

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Losman to join Raiders

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Bruce Gradkowski is injured and signed to a one-year contract. Charlie Frye is signed to a one-year contract. JaMarcus Russell is signed to a contract the Raiders might not necessarily want to pay.

With those things in mind, JP Losman is in Alameda, taking a physical and signed with the Raiders, beat writer Steve Corkran is reporting.

Losman, a former first-round pick of the Buffalo Bills, was the quarterback of the UFL champion Las Vegas Locomotives.

The Raiders freed up a roster spot by waiving Roy Schuening, an offensive lineman who was signed to the 53-man roster Saturday to take the place of Robert Gallery.

Losman, 10-23 in five seasons with Buffalo, worked out with Indianapolis and was reportedly close to signing a contract with the Colts.

Losman passed for 6,211 yards with 33 touchdowns and 34 interceptions in Buffalo.

More grist for the rumor mill _ Losman’s UFL coach was Jim Fassel, who said last year he was interested in coaching the Raiders and whose son, John, is the Raiders special teams coordinator. The elder Fassel attended the Raiders-Redskins game Sunday.

Fassel was a Raiders offensive assistant in 1994.

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Joey

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So JP Lossman is gonna be our QB and Jim Fassel could be out new coach next season...:hurt::hurt::hurt:
Yeah no thanks....Im cool with Lossman finishing out the year, but not starting the next one unless he does some Brady manning type shit.......Im not cool with fassel at all....He is soft
 
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Al Davis Must Choose Between JaMarcus Russell and Oakland Raiders
Justin Smith


Because he can't have both. Not after a recent interview with JaMarcus Russell in which the young man spoke volumes by saying essentially that Bruce Gradkowski's success was just luck, his own failings are everyone else's fault, he's unwilling to restructure a contract he hasn't earned, though obviously feels entitled to, and that he worries about "JaMarcus and JaMarcus only."

HISS...did you hear that? That was the sound of the Raiders' hopes for a successful end to the season deflating as Russell entered the game in the second half of yesterday's loss to the Washington Redskins. That was the sound of the Raiders' morale, knowing they are being led by a kid who would rather eat, drink, and be merry than look at a playbook or give a damn about his team.

I don't even want to talk about the officiating in yesterday's game. Even the commentators were basically stating the refs were being biased against the Raiders. A garbage catch interference call, a phantom pass interference, upholding Redskins challenges and not the one Raiders challenge, despite the glowing similarities of each catch, were all nauseating to watch.

The refs should be ashamed of themselves.

But although those troubles didn't help matters, they are not why the team lost this game.

The team lost this game because they packed it in when the leader whom they respect, Bruce Gradkowski, went down to injury in the second quarter.

They packed it in when a young man who is supposed to be a leader but garners no respect, nor does he deserve any, came in to the game and began stinking it up like he has all season.

At least Russell got mad at times. He was yelling at his offensive line after numerous sacks. It's very telling, though, that the anger was misplaced. Most of those sacks were the direct result of his lack of mobility and football acumen, which just perpetuates the problem of "JaMarcus only worries about JaMarcus." None of those sacks were his fault. It was all the line. He can do no wrong in his own eyes. Baffling.

Never mind that Gradkowski can actually move faster than a sloth on crutches and is able to avoid the rush and make plays. Much of that is due to his football intelligence and that comes directly from putting in the work.

But Russell says he puts in the work, too. I don't see it, but hey, he said it so it's true to him at least. He'll also tell you that the fact that he's as slow as molasses in January has nothing to do with any of those sacks. Nope, it's all the fault of the offensive line.

And you can see how the team responded so positively to Russell. I'm sure they loved him yelling at them for missing blocks as he was holding onto the ball, showing no pocket presence, making terrible and narrow reads, and turning the ball over.

Of course, professionals respect that. When a guy plays that badly and continually blames his teammates, you've got to listen to him. You've got to give him his propers.

Yep, the team shaking their heads in disgust and giving up, despite the game still being within reach, showed that they really support this kid, because he obviously deserves their support.

The defense pitched consecutive three and outs to start the second half, but saw their efforts mostly wasted by a draft pick that, thus far, has been totally wasted.

Hence, as I've written earlier this season, they stopped trying. Why try when there is seemingly no point in doing so? Even professionals get frustrated, and with Russell's immature and selfish comments, coupled with his awful play, he has certainly lost the respect and love of his teammates.

You could actually see their shoulders slump when Russell ran on the field. Granted, the kid needs more support than that, and I was a little disappointed that fans began booing him immediately despite him doing nothing wrong as of yet. At least I was at first.

But it certainly turned out to be prophetic, didn't it?

Perhaps the most telling moment of the entire game, at least as it pertains to how teammates feel about Russell, was on a late sack by beast Brian Orakpo (yes, I know we could've had him).

Orakpo abused Cornell "Turnstile" Green, but not before Green had blocked for about three full seconds. Russell, unable to read the field and get rid of the ball quickly (surprising, I know) took the sack. Green then began jumping up and down in frustration.

Let me make this clear: We've all seen offensive lineman frustrated with themselves after giving up sacks. They generally hang their heads, point at their chest, or slap themselves in the helmet.

They don't jump up and down and posture like that when they're angry with themselves. It was very obvious Green was extremely frustrated with Russell's utter lack of quarterbacking ability and pocket presence, and that he was tired of Russell making the line look bad. Not that they played well, but Russell didn't do them any favours.

That statement was echoed in the movement and deeds of the entire roster of the Oakland Raiders if you chose to look closely enough. This is a game we should've won, and could've won, had we had a quarterback the team actually respected and had even a smidgen of faith in.

JaMarcus Russell, through words, deeds, inaction, laziness, entitlement, immaturity, and an utter lack of self-awareness, has caused the opposite feelings to manifest.

I have been one of his biggest supporters, and have refused to utter the following words because I wanted him to succeed so badly. We needed him to succeed.

But now I have to admit it to myself: JaMarcus Russell is an awful, awful quarterback, and a complete waste on this roster.

If that's the "totally new JaMarcus" he promised, why did it look so much like the old JaMarcus? Only, possibly (if it's possible), even worse?

Al Davis has a serious decision to make. This team does not want JaMarcus Russell as its quarterback. The Raider Nation does not want him anywhere near Oakland at all. Every step of the way this kid has shown himself to be not ready for primetime, whether as a player on the field or a leader off of it.

Al Davis must decide whether a team-wide revolt is worth his stubbornness and the validation of his ego. He must decide whether to keep a very self-centered kid who won't even talk of restructuring his contract, despite the most catastrophic beginning to a quarterback career since Ryan Leaf. That may even be being kind to Russell.

He must decide whether it is worth risking losing his entire team and fan base to desperately cling to a kid who Davis has gone to great lengths to defend and praise in public.

He must decide whether his ego is more important than his franchise.

So with that in mind, I give you JaMarcus Russell, Oakland's starting quarterback for 2010.

Somebody shoot me now.
 

Chree

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Yeah no thanks....Im cool with Lossman finishing out the year, but not starting the next one unless he does some Brady manning type shit.......Im not cool with fassel at all....He is soft
Is Brady manning Peyton and Elis cousin or something?
 

P.E.

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well it says he lead his old team and won it all,..so wouldnt that show that the boy got some type of skills?!....and least better then j russ?...i say give the boy a chance,..thats wut we had to do wit loose bruce and look how it turned out!..but fuck our luck,wut do we have to lose!
 
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Frye, Gradkowski cut from same cloth
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 16th, 2009 at 12:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Like Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye had a starting job, couldn’t hold it, earned a reputation for being a tireless worker and student, and wound up with the Raiders on the depth chart behind quarterback of the future JaMarcus Russell.

Like Gradkowski, Frye has overtaken Russell.

Coach Tom Cable told the Denver media during his weekly conference call Frye would start Sunday, and the glut of cameras and microphones around him an hour or so later confirmed it.

“I heard yesterday,” Frye said. “I mean, you always want to play. Now how that happens, you know, things happen in this league and you’ve just got to be ready. You don’t want an opportunity to pass you by.”

It wasn’t a big surprise, given that Cable’s review of Russell’s relief performance against Washington was lukewarm at best and he has in the past lauded Frye for his preparation and commitment. Not coincidentally, they were the same things Cable said about Gradkowski.

“Me and Bruce, we come from the same mold as far as our past and what we’ve done to get where we’re at,” Frye said.

Frye said he’s even been sitting in on game-planning meetings with coaches.

“I’m always prepared. That’s something about me is my work ethic is something I take pride in,” Frye said. “The coaches let me sit in a lot of the meetings as far as the game planning and write up ideas and things. I’ve been a big part of the game plans the last few weeks”

With the Broncos coming in with a pass rush led by Elvis Dumervill and a league-leading 15 sacks, Frye’s mobility _ he’s more in line with Gradkowski than Russell _ no doubt played a role in the thinking of Cable and Al Davis.

“I think my athletic ability plays a part in it. I’ve made some plays in this league with my legs. That’s one thing of it,” Frye said. “And I think another side is just being around. This is my fifth year so I’ve been around some good quarterbacks in Seattle and a great coach in Seattle and also here. Coach Hackett, he’s a real good coach as far as getting guys prepared, getting guys to understand the game. I feel ready.”

Another tie-in with Gradkowski _ Frye opened the 2008 season as the Cleveland starter and was gone after one game, Gradkowski finished the 2009 season as the Browns starter and wasn’t asked to return.

Named the starter over Derek Anderson, Frye was on the bench early in a 34-7 loss to Pittsburgh, completing 4 of 10 passes for 34 yards and an interception. He was traded to Seattle a few days later _ the first quarteback in NFL history to start an opener and then be with a different team in Week 2.

Frye looks at it as one of the biggest breaks of his career.

“It humbles you. I’m just thankful that I went to a place that quarterbacking is — the guru was up there with (Mike) Holmgren. It was a good experience for me. I wouldn’t take those away for anything,” Frye said. “You’ve got to understand, if something like that happens to you, I think it makes you hungrier and it keeps your eye on the prize as far as getting back on the field.”

Frye’s last start was on Oct. 12 of last season against the Green Bay Packers, completing 12 of 23 passes for 83 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions and three sacks in a 27-17 loss.

Although J.P. Losman was added to the roster, Gradkowski said he hopes to aggressively rehab torn MCLs in both knees to the point where he can start against Cleveland. In meantime, he’ll support Frye.

“I’m excited for him, I’m going to everything I can this week to help him out,” Gradkowski said. “He was there, the past couple of weeks when I was starting and hopefully we can put a good game together and whaever we can do this week to help him out.”

More to come . . .