THE OFFICIAL GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD
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lol ... that was 812 years ago and Dumars was way thicker and stronger than Monta or Curry ever will be.
Some of todays SGs & PGs
Kobe Bryant 6'7
Vince Carter 6'6
Brandon Roy 6'6
Andre Iguodala 6'6 - Plays both SG & SF ... built like a tank
Kevin Martin 6'7 - Skinny as hell though
Joe Johnson 6'7 - Built like a tank
Dwyane Wade 6'4 - Built like a tank
Tracy McGrady 6'8
Chauncey Billups - Getting old, but built like a tank
Baron Davis - Built like stale twinkies
Deron Williams - Tank
Monta has a point. I'd hate to see him be the one to go, but he's right.
Some of todays SGs & PGs
Kobe Bryant 6'7
Vince Carter 6'6
Brandon Roy 6'6
Andre Iguodala 6'6 - Plays both SG & SF ... built like a tank
Kevin Martin 6'7 - Skinny as hell though
Joe Johnson 6'7 - Built like a tank
Dwyane Wade 6'4 - Built like a tank
Tracy McGrady 6'8
Chauncey Billups - Getting old, but built like a tank
Baron Davis - Built like stale twinkies
Deron Williams - Tank
Monta has a point. I'd hate to see him be the one to go, but he's right.
Pretty much.
And for all we know Monta wasn't trying to come across like he doesn't want to play with Curry. That's the problem with these little half ass articles; there's no context or the writers create a bullshit context and insert quotes at their convenience. Unless there's a video and I can hear the questions as they're asked and answered, I take these little random one-off quotes with a grain of salt.
Now SJax? He let that shit be known, lol
And for all we know Monta wasn't trying to come across like he doesn't want to play with Curry. That's the problem with these little half ass articles; there's no context or the writers create a bullshit context and insert quotes at their convenience. Unless there's a video and I can hear the questions as they're asked and answered, I take these little random one-off quotes with a grain of salt.
Now SJax? He let that shit be known, lol
Cant blame SJax and Monta. To me they are smarter than the organization. Its about time warrior players speak up.
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_13444339?nclick_check=1
Kawakami: Speaking their minds: Ellis can't play with Curry; Jackson wants out
How many Warriors stalwarts does it take to screw up a media day?
Two, it turns out: One to continue his credible campaign to get the heck out of town and one to scoff at the franchise's latest bit of strategic make believe.
So much for all the positive vibes heading into the start of training camp today! Wait, the Warriors almost never have any.
Time to start dumping popular players once again, apparently.
You see, Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis weren't just making random observations about their positions in the Warriors' solar system.
This was bigger than Jackson's refusal to back off of his trade request and Ellis flatly stating that he could not play alongside prized rookie Stephen Curry, though those things also happened at Monday's media day.
"Us together? No," Ellis said of the potential Curry teaming, in the most concise dissection of egregious Warriors hype ever uttered.
Jackson and Ellis, good friends, were making a key point: They're both 10 times smarter than team management and they don't care if any of us know it.
That's pretty heavy. It's also desperately necessary if the incompetent reign of owner Chris Cohan and team president Robert Rowell is ever going to be fully exposed.
"As you know," Jackson said with a shrug, "this organization's unpredictable. Very unpredictable."
Oh, really?
Unpredictable enough for Rowell to hand Jackson a three-year, $28 million extension
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last year, even though Jackson was 30 at the time and had two years left on his deal.
On Monday, Jackson declined to repeat his specific trade request for fear of another NBA fine; but he's basically saying that he can't be blamed for Rowell's foolishness.
Jackson is 100 percent correct, because he's smarter than Rowell.
"Well, who's going to turn down that money?" Jackson said. "I'm not stupid. I mean, I didn't go to college but I've got a lot of common sense."
Plus, Jackson noted that Don Nelson offered to try to trade him last season. Only a fool organization would be shocked by Jackson's desire to move now that he has watched the piece by piece dismantling the 2007 playoff squad.
There is, of course, the complication that his contract makes Jackson all but untrade-able. He might be stuck in the Warriors 1,000th consecutive rebuilding effort, which probably will lead nowhere for the 1,000th consecutive time.
Jackson can see that. He can see that Amare Stoudemire wanted no part of this team when the Warriors tried a big trade. He can see this is an NBA disaster zone.
Why can't the Warriors?
"Every year I've lost somebody that I felt helped me get to that, with Baron (Davis), Jason (Richardson), Al (Harrington)," Jackson said. "It felt like I'm next. You know what I mean? It feels like we're not getting better"
"We've been taking steps backs since that year we beat Dallas."
Steps back, steps forward. It wouldn't be the Warriors if they didn't have bright young talent to market, and this season it's Anthony Randolph and, of course, Curry.
But to make the best use of the Warriors' mix of talents, Nelson probably would have to play Curry with Ellis, who both are slight and under 6-foot-4.
"Can't," Ellis said. "We just can't."
Why not? Didn't Ellis play well alongside Davis as two point-guard-sized players?
"When me and BD were playing" you've got a nine-year veteran who's been in the game, who understands the game, knows how to play the game, and he's a big body," Ellis said.
"You can't put two small guys out there and try to play the '1' and the '2' when you've got big '2' guards in the league. You just can't do it.
"OK, yes, we're going to move up and down fast, but eventually the game is going to slow down. You can't do it."
Again, the player is correct. But the Warriors went ga-ga when Curry slipped to their spot, so they drafted him despite knowing that he duplicated Ellis and that the pick probably accelerates Ellis' discomfort here.
To match Jackson's ultra-discomfort.
Didn't the Warriors know that? No, I guess not. Should be a fun camp!
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_13444339?nclick_check=1
Kawakami: Speaking their minds: Ellis can't play with Curry; Jackson wants out
How many Warriors stalwarts does it take to screw up a media day?
Two, it turns out: One to continue his credible campaign to get the heck out of town and one to scoff at the franchise's latest bit of strategic make believe.
So much for all the positive vibes heading into the start of training camp today! Wait, the Warriors almost never have any.
Time to start dumping popular players once again, apparently.
You see, Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis weren't just making random observations about their positions in the Warriors' solar system.
This was bigger than Jackson's refusal to back off of his trade request and Ellis flatly stating that he could not play alongside prized rookie Stephen Curry, though those things also happened at Monday's media day.
"Us together? No," Ellis said of the potential Curry teaming, in the most concise dissection of egregious Warriors hype ever uttered.
Jackson and Ellis, good friends, were making a key point: They're both 10 times smarter than team management and they don't care if any of us know it.
That's pretty heavy. It's also desperately necessary if the incompetent reign of owner Chris Cohan and team president Robert Rowell is ever going to be fully exposed.
"As you know," Jackson said with a shrug, "this organization's unpredictable. Very unpredictable."
Oh, really?
Unpredictable enough for Rowell to hand Jackson a three-year, $28 million extension
Advertisement
last year, even though Jackson was 30 at the time and had two years left on his deal.
On Monday, Jackson declined to repeat his specific trade request for fear of another NBA fine; but he's basically saying that he can't be blamed for Rowell's foolishness.
Jackson is 100 percent correct, because he's smarter than Rowell.
"Well, who's going to turn down that money?" Jackson said. "I'm not stupid. I mean, I didn't go to college but I've got a lot of common sense."
Plus, Jackson noted that Don Nelson offered to try to trade him last season. Only a fool organization would be shocked by Jackson's desire to move now that he has watched the piece by piece dismantling the 2007 playoff squad.
There is, of course, the complication that his contract makes Jackson all but untrade-able. He might be stuck in the Warriors 1,000th consecutive rebuilding effort, which probably will lead nowhere for the 1,000th consecutive time.
Jackson can see that. He can see that Amare Stoudemire wanted no part of this team when the Warriors tried a big trade. He can see this is an NBA disaster zone.
Why can't the Warriors?
"Every year I've lost somebody that I felt helped me get to that, with Baron (Davis), Jason (Richardson), Al (Harrington)," Jackson said. "It felt like I'm next. You know what I mean? It feels like we're not getting better"
"We've been taking steps backs since that year we beat Dallas."
Steps back, steps forward. It wouldn't be the Warriors if they didn't have bright young talent to market, and this season it's Anthony Randolph and, of course, Curry.
But to make the best use of the Warriors' mix of talents, Nelson probably would have to play Curry with Ellis, who both are slight and under 6-foot-4.
"Can't," Ellis said. "We just can't."
Why not? Didn't Ellis play well alongside Davis as two point-guard-sized players?
"When me and BD were playing" you've got a nine-year veteran who's been in the game, who understands the game, knows how to play the game, and he's a big body," Ellis said.
"You can't put two small guys out there and try to play the '1' and the '2' when you've got big '2' guards in the league. You just can't do it.
"OK, yes, we're going to move up and down fast, but eventually the game is going to slow down. You can't do it."
Again, the player is correct. But the Warriors went ga-ga when Curry slipped to their spot, so they drafted him despite knowing that he duplicated Ellis and that the pick probably accelerates Ellis' discomfort here.
To match Jackson's ultra-discomfort.
Didn't the Warriors know that? No, I guess not. Should be a fun camp!
Noone is gonna want Stephon Jackson cuz noone wants to take on that contract, Stephon Jackson sure didnt object to taking that new contract. Warriors organization gave this foo' to much leadership and he stabbed them in the back. Monta on the other hand sounds like a little bitch talken bout he doesnt think it will work with him and Curry. Wow way to be a team player. W's basically got rid of J-Rich and Baron for this dude and im sure a lot of us wish that never happened.
if we can get rid of sjax and monta our team would be full of professionals.
Curry, Turiaf, Morrow, Claxton, Randolph, Biedrnis, Wright. Maggette seem to not give a fuck about anything other then getting paid and shooting 20 shots a night. doubt george is a head case. Moore is a professional as hes been on so many teams.
Curry, Turiaf, Morrow, Claxton, Randolph, Biedrnis, Wright. Maggette seem to not give a fuck about anything other then getting paid and shooting 20 shots a night. doubt george is a head case. Moore is a professional as hes been on so many teams.
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Ellis redux
Monta Ellis on Tuesday tried to modify his statements about playing alongside Stephen Curry from a day earlier.
"I can't envision that," Ellis said at Monday's media day. "Us together, no. I can't. I just can't. I just can't.
"They (coach Don Nelson and general manager Larry Riley) say we can, but we can't. I just want to win, and we're not going to win that way."
Nelson and Ellis had a conversation about the comments before the guard addressed the media Tuesday.
"The only way we'd be able to play together is match ups," said Ellis, who, like Curry, is 6-foot-3 and in the 180-pound range. "That's the only way."
Ellis was sure to explain that he didn't have any problems with the Warriors selecting Curry and that he knows his place his place in the organization's hierarchy.
"Coach makes those calls," Ellis said. "I just play basketball."
Monta Ellis on Tuesday tried to modify his statements about playing alongside Stephen Curry from a day earlier.
"I can't envision that," Ellis said at Monday's media day. "Us together, no. I can't. I just can't. I just can't.
"They (coach Don Nelson and general manager Larry Riley) say we can, but we can't. I just want to win, and we're not going to win that way."
Nelson and Ellis had a conversation about the comments before the guard addressed the media Tuesday.
"The only way we'd be able to play together is match ups," said Ellis, who, like Curry, is 6-foot-3 and in the 180-pound range. "That's the only way."
Ellis was sure to explain that he didn't have any problems with the Warriors selecting Curry and that he knows his place his place in the organization's hierarchy.
"Coach makes those calls," Ellis said. "I just play basketball."
Point guard Acie Law sustained a concussion and sprained neck in a pickup game last week and hasn't been cleared to practice.
He's probably competing for a roster spot with Speedy Claxton, as the Warriors are point guard heavy, and this injury isn't going to help him make the team.
Anthony Randolph will be an opening-night starter for the Warriors and should stay in that role all year as long as he's healthy.
Randolph, Stephen Jackson, Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins have all be named starters by coach Don Nelson. Rookie Stephen Curry, Kelenna Azubuike, Corey Maggette and Anthony Morrow will likely compete for the fifth spot, and we have Azubuike winning the job. Randolph's stock just continues to rise despite the team and coach he plays for.
He's probably competing for a roster spot with Speedy Claxton, as the Warriors are point guard heavy, and this injury isn't going to help him make the team.
Anthony Randolph will be an opening-night starter for the Warriors and should stay in that role all year as long as he's healthy.
Randolph, Stephen Jackson, Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins have all be named starters by coach Don Nelson. Rookie Stephen Curry, Kelenna Azubuike, Corey Maggette and Anthony Morrow will likely compete for the fifth spot, and we have Azubuike winning the job. Randolph's stock just continues to rise despite the team and coach he plays for.