The Immigration Laws

[EDJ]

^I WAS THINKIN' OF LIVIN' IN JUAREZ AND WORKIN' IN EL PASO BEFORE. BUT THAT'S TOO HARD.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

I wouldn't mind living in Guadalajara again, once I get my Spanish up. It'd be incredible to be able to go there every Summer for the 3 months and teach English, in exchange for free tuition to learn Spanish Literature, Phonetics, etc.

 

[HERESY]

My reply to MexCom

Advocate what? Illegal immigration? I don't advocate the immigration. I advocate the actual aliens, past and present, and their boon to American society.

Brother, this is circle talk. You advocate illegal immigration.

Like I said before: The AMERICAN government is the reason that these people leave Mexico. Mexicans who are here, and trust me I know, would NOT WANT to be here.

The american government is NOT the reason the people leave Mexico. The reasons these people leave Mexico are very numerous. They want a better life, they want to escape a corrupt mexican government, they want to escape prosecution from the Mexican government, etc etc. If you are implying america is the cause because it outsources, helps the mexican government etc, you need to blame CAPITALISM. If mexicans do not want to be here WHY are they here? I don't want to be here and what do you see me doing?!?!?! YOU SEE ME MAKING MOVES TO LEAVE!!! You don't see me protesting with MILLIONS of people each and every week.

Look at NAFTA. It's agricultural subsidies and lowering of tariff's fucked up the Mexican agricultural economy. Forcing farmers to move into the big cities where jobs did not await them. Some "good" can be argued that came from it but in the end it cause an influx of immigration from Mexico and into the United States.

Are you implying that NAFTA only effected Mexico in a negative way?

And you speak as if none are. Who says there are no revolutionary groups on Mexico? There are. Both armed and those who are more of a political nature. I mean even the CIA was (is?) helping the Mexican government keep a close eye on the EZLN.

And, you don't think they C.I.A is somehow involved in those groups or have plants? Where are these revolutionary groups? Why are they not telling the people to OVERTHROW the mexican government? The TRUE revolutionaries want change. They are willing to DIE for MEXICO because they LOVE mexico. These people want to change Mexico FIRST. They have PRIORITIZED. The pro-illegal community has NOT prioritized, and the majority of them are COWARDS.

And where did I imply that any one sought anything?

Bro, what else would you be implying? You have already stated that they seek jobs, well being etc etc.

Same that's happened thus far. Relatively very little. We can make speculation but that's all it is. Speculation.

Speculation? No we can look at HISTORY as a gauge. We can look to the PRESENT as a gauge. When GROUP A becomes larger than GROUP B you are BOUND to have war, strife, turmoil etc. When the money is spread thin and everyone is NOT eating (by eating I mean getting paid/making money) you will have rebellion, destructiuon, crime etc. You already have a large percentage of poor people here. If you allow more poor people to come in the gap will widen, their will be more competition at the bottom etc. This is NOT speculation. This is HISTORICAL FACT.

I know. And they'll blame it on and solely on illegal Mexicans.

Yes, they will, and do you want your people to be the scapegoat? The reason why the illegal mexicans will be blamed is because you have waaaaaaaay more illegal mexicans that you do any other race. However, the blame should not be placed on the illegal immigrants but capitalism.

1. I DO blame the Mexican government.
2. What do you call Mexico's involvement in free trading agreements if not an attempt at boosting the economy
3. You can't speak out against any political party in Mexico. I know from personal experience that they run the country. They go to people's houses and threathen them and their family if they vote but tell them if they are to vote who to vote for. They blacklist you and often murder you if you speak out against them. Freedom of speech in Mexico is a joke and an unarmed and ignorant populous has no chance against American trained anti-insurgents.
4. You speak as if it were easy to change anything in Mexico. How would you change ANYTHING without getting murdered by PRI HERESY? And when you find a solution, which you won't either because you can't or because you will not, pass that information on to every other developing and underdeveloped country in the world that is a puppet state for the United States and is ruled by a hegemonic political party.

1. Ok

2. I call it an attempt and nothing more. How will a FIA work if the people who it was designed for are moving?

3. You believe in dying for what you believe. You believe in making sacrifice. I too believe in these things, and if I am willing to put myself on the chopping block so should others. Yes, the government is corrupt and will kill them, but they can't kill EVERYONE. Some of the mexican citizens who DO have money who are NOT affiliated with the government need to get on the ball and do their jobs. The same can be said for the mexican corporations who are not government owned. I will NOT accept death by the government as an excuse. You want to know why I won't? Because Afrikan slaves endured MUCH WORSE than the mexicans of today and they had to fight back. The descendents of Afrikan slaves didn't have it easy (jim crow , 60's etc) and they fought back!

WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DIE?!?!?!

Why am I blaming this on America? Because it IS AMERICA'S FAULT. I am NOT denying the Mexican government isn't at fault also but it IS the American government's fault.

CAPITALISM.

Since the end of the Mexican revolution the AMERICAN government has implemented who it wanted in a seat of power. The American government has armed the Mexican government only AFTER the Mexican-American war and only after it disposed of Madero and replaced it with Huerta. It prospers and flames the current imigration of Mexicans into the United States. It has armed the Mexican police.It has armed and trained special Mexican Commando's to specifically repel insurgencies, especially leftist and Marxists one's.

Everything and anything CAN and IS applied to the actual Mexican governments fault. I don't solely blame one and not the other.

I am not disputing this, and it was my belief that you were simply blaming america.

You speak as if no one ever, or has never spoken up unless they've crossed the border. People protest the Mexican government everyday. But it does no good. I think it must come down to a violent revolution. And I think it will.

At this point in time violence might be the only option left...(BTW, I don't see mexicans protesting in mexico. I see "NO GRINGO DAY" here in america.)

No I don't. Like I said I don't believe reform in Mexico is possible. At least not one achieved by verbal means.

Depending on how deep american influence ACTUALLY goes you may be correct. However, it does not hurt to try it. I am all for solving problems and conditions verbally (if they can be solved that way), but at the end of the day an ACTION is always required. The pro-illegals are organizing a nationwide boycott of "GRINGO GOODS." Why are they not doing the same thing in mexico?

Cool. I might just do that. I've never trusted the dollar. It's a worthless piece of paper with a guys face on it.

Too be honest thats what it is. Also it is a form of BONDAGE mentally first and physically second.

You know how long it took me to learn that? I don't even like going into my job anymore because at times I look at it as modern day slavery.

Brother, it IS modern day slavery. The only way you can have some type of hapiness (when it comes to employment) is if you own your own business (offering goods or services that people NEED) or you walk a spiritual path similar to what is in Migs sig. If you are not doing one of the two chances are you will never be satisfied.

Like I said before this IS coming. Nationalism is sweeping America and the United States wont be able to stop it. Once it hits MEXICO it's game over. That's why I personally believe they've always had a hand in Mexican politics because they know that the proximity issue will destroy them.

I agree with this 100%. However, what do you think will happen when this nationalism becomes a FIRM grip and people start acting out on it? You WILL have unrest within this country.

America the player? America is a captain save a ho. Game recognize game HERESY and I know who Israel is.

LMAO@captain save a ho. Hey I'm not gonna deny that, but the game is CAPITALISM. The game is GREED. As far as Israel is concerned...the REAL tribes will come home soon, and the age of gentiles is coming to a close. You can see that with the current illegal immigration problem.