The 9/11 Conspiracies - Fact or Fiction(History Channel)

[BaSICCally]

For those who have time watch this video, I would like to see if anyone has any opinions.


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8681404939085163126

if you have already watched the program, what did you think of it?

 

[TROLL]

id like to know how one of the structural "experts" (Matthys Levy, P.E.) came to the conclusion that the fire in WTC7 started burning BEFORE the towers collapsed.. wasnt it the falling debris that blamed for bulding 7's fires?

Regarding WTC 7, "The initial fires started around 9:30 in the morning, so the building was allowed to burn for eight hours," Levy told the History Channel during Sunday night's broadcast.

However, according to the FEMA report and the official story, the fire broke out an hour later, immediately following the collapse of the north tower, having survived largely unscathed the collapse of the south tower over 30 minutes earlier.

At 10:29 a.m., WTC 1 (the north tower) collapsed," reads Chapter 5 of the FEMA report, "Sending its debris into the streets below. The extent and severity of the resulting damage to WTC 7 are currently unknown. However, from photographic evidence and eyewitness accounts discussed below, it was assumed that the south side of the building was damaged to some degree and that fires in WTC 7 started at approximately this time."

 

[MzCiN]

i wasnt able to finish the video but i have seen the videos relating to the 911 conspiracies on www.infowars.com and i dont know alot of that shit makes sense. i really havent researched it to the point where i can fully say i believe in it, but alot of the things that are said make sense. how the government is trying to enforce their ridiculous laws by enforcing fear in our nation. i saw a documentary where a reporter had papers he dug up from some library where g bush's great great grandfather i believe was associated with hitler. how he worshiped him and believed that they should enforce the same laws hitler believed in. i dont know if uve seen that link i gave u above but they posted up alot of speaches the president has given and compared them to those of adolf hitler. and theyre almost identically the same. they said bush is trying to use fear the same way hitler did in order to brain wash us i guess lol. i also saw one how osama was our alie since the beggining and the reason we havent found him is because our government knew wut was happening all along and found it to their convinience. most of those infowars videos basically say the governemnt felt the need to sacrafice thousands of ppl inorder to take their limited power to a higher level. which i believe MIGHT be true. like i said im not fully aware of the facts both theories have to offer but now a days u really have no privacy wut so ever but u have to excuse that because as they say " in order to be free and enjoy our human rights we must sacrafice wut the government finds necessary " .... which makes me wonder..... wut if they did do all of this to cause panic through out our nation. to make us feel threatned and unsafe to the point where we wont question anything they do anymore. and if this is the case if we dont put a stop to it who knows wut would be next. then i seen that part where it was said that there was a fire started before the planes hit the towers. and it burned for a couple hours. that sounds kinda ridiculous in a way. that and other statements seem like bogus to me. so then im back at sq 1... i guess a conspiracy could be possible. but when i see these consipiracy stories i never really see any facts. but who knows. i wouldnt doubt it if it really did go down like that. DONT YOU GUYS WATCH THE XFILES!!!! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE LOL .

 

[og MS]

watch this for some thought provoking information... on various issues including 9/11 and religion

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

 

[TROLL]

i saw a documentary where a reporter had papers he dug up from some library where g bush's great great grandfather i believe was associated with hitler.

well, thats not really a conspiracy, its admitted and actually documented...but close.. it wasnt his great great grandfather... just his grandfather.. Prescott bush.. he funded the rise of hitler..

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power::
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Documents: Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler::
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

i also saw one how osama was our alie since the beggining and the reason we havent found him is because our government knew wut was happening all along and found it to their convinience.

yeah, we helped fund the Mujahideen (which osama was part of) to fight the soviets when they were occupying afghanistan
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The mujahideen were significantly financed, armed, and trained by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) during the Carter and Reagan administrations, Saudi Arabia, the People's Republic of China, several European countries, Iran, and Pakistan (during the Zia-ul-Haq military regime). The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was the interagent used in the majority of these activities to disguise the sources of support for the resistance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen

 

[Syko Sniper]

Yup, Troll knows what he's talking about, watch those videos people.

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

9/11 was not a conspiracy theory*, bush and silverstein calculated everythang from the controlled demolitions to removing all the gold from the banks in the WTC. I've seen enough evidence to conclude that it was orchestrated by bush and silverstein.

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

id like to know how one of the structural "experts" (Matthys Levy, P.E.) came to the conclusion that the fire in WTC7 started burning BEFORE the towers collapsed.. wasnt it the falling debris that blamed for bulding 7's fires?

Every building was brought down with controlled demolitions, notice how it falls in-ward and not outward and all over the place--controlled explosions.

 

[SecondzAway]

If anything is covered up its Flight 77. A boeing 757 did NOT strike the pentagon. The physical evedince simply doesn't support it. The pentagon is one of the most secured building in the world. They have close to a 1,000 CCTV cameras, yet all we have been allowed to see is a 5 frame shot that shows an explosion, nothing else.

A Fully loaded 757 weighs in at over 100 tons. The plane was traveling at 535mph when it struck the side of the Pentagon. You mean to tell me the only damage the building suffered was a 16 foot hole that went through 3 of the 5 rings including a 9ft steel reienforced concrete wall?

When asked what made the 16ft hole threw the other two rings and the wall the Gov. says the front landing gear broke off and went threw!!!????

Ok....lets back up just a sec.....The engines of a 757 are Rolls Royce turbines. They are 9ft diameter and 12 feet long and weigh 6 tons each. which are composed of steel and titainium. IF and this is just if.....the engines by themselves struck the pentagon at 535mph they would have hitt with a force that roughly comes out to 3 million pounds of pressure per [] inch.........and you mean to tell me they didn't even so much as dent the outer wall?.....BULLSHIT

 

[nhojsmith]

man i bet you guys are furious, im sure you will do something about it though

 

[SecondzAway]

^^^no.....lol.........It's just funny that most americans belive what the Gov. said verbatem to be true.

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

man i bet you guys are furious, im sure you will do something about it though

At least I can come to terms with the truth.

 

[2-0-NINE]

man i bet you guys are furious, im sure you will do something about it though

nhojsmith DO YOU VOTE?

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

nhojsmith is the cat that made the same comment on the global warming thread, talkin about "what do you do about the problem?" He types it as if it was sarcasm and nobody would ever try to do anything to help these problems or issues. He seems like one of those types that sits back complaining while others take action.

 

[nhojsmith]

nhojsmith is the cat that made the same comment on the global warming thread, talkin about "what do you do about the problem?" He types it as if it was sarcasm and nobody would ever try to do anything to help these problems or issues. He seems like one of those types that sits back complaining while others take action.

is this a joke, this is in fact exactly what everyone in this thread is doing which is why i made that comment smart guy. lol what the fuck. you all aint doin shit about it but sitting on here, tell me im wrong...

same with global warming, what have you ladies done so far? what exactly?!?!?!? lol

 

[lifeistooshort]

that infowars website is pretty good, alex jones has some ok videos too.

the whole notion is being called a "False FLAG Operation" basically where the government causes its own destruction or problems- mainly becuase its been researched that the people are more likely to give up their freedom and liberties and rely more on the government when they are in fear.

This isnt the first time this type of shit has happened, Hitler burned down the Reichstag(sp?), his gov. building and framed a Polish guy to justify some law changes

The US knew the Japanese were gonna bomb Pearl Harbor and let it happen to join the war

and then we have 9/11

 

[nhojsmith]

nhojsmith DO YOU VOTE?

absolutely not, but i support voting 100% and encourage everyone to do so. there has never been a major election that i would have affected by voting, or you for that matter. do you vote?

 

[TheVille31]

Ive watched Loose Change and too much other shit and ive come to my OWN opinion that this shit was def set up.

My cousin does controlled demolition and he said the way it fell and how it looked was a typical CD. No bodies found at the PA crash site.

One of the things that is so obvious is they found the ID Card of one of the terrorist from the plane. So jet fuel can burn steel beams but not a tiny piece of plastic? Weird. Its like the little kid that tries WAY to hard to prove it was someone else.

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

is this a joke, this is in fact exactly what everyone in this thread is doing which is why i made that comment smart guy. lol what the fuck. you all aint doin shit about it but sitting on here, tell me im wrong...

same with global warming, what have you ladies done so far? what exactly?!?!?!? lol

Well, as far as this goes, I couldn't say anything could be done about it, but I actually just wanted to know how many people thought theres more to what happened on 9/11 then what we're told. On the global warming topic though, I have a friend who works for a solar paneling company and he installs solar panelling on houses...I'm tryin to get a job in that field. So my contributions will be made.

 

[2-0-NINE]

absolutely not, but i support voting 100% and encourage everyone to do so. there has never been a major election that i would have affected by voting, or you for that matter. do you vote?

Edit: Actually I don't vote, but when I do actually have the time to look into what I'm voting for unlike some people who vote out of popularity and ignorance, then I'll register.