Stop pimping Black athletes

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I dont need to read the article becuase for one....Jason Whitlock is a fuckin idiot...has been for years. Anything that guy talks about is complete retardation and i can care less what he has to say on ANYTHING sports reltaed, especially about college sports.

Second of all, no one is PIMPING ANYONE. If these kids were getting "pimped", they would be getting NOTHING in return.

The fact of the matter is, YOU people cant use critical thining and dont look at the3 big picture...thats YOUR bad. Blaming institutions for others mishaps is a fuckin COP-OUT.

So go ahead, believe what you want about college athletes and the so called "pimping" that happenes, when in REALITY, its the ATHLETE who needs to take responsibility, not the university, the NCAA, or the NFL...

 

[Lordbyron]

I dont need to read the article becuase for one....Jason Whitlock is a fuckin idiot...has been for years. Anything that guy talks about is complete retardation and i can care less what he has to say on ANYTHING sports reltaed, especially about college sports.

Second of all, no one is PIMPING ANYONE. If these kids were getting "pimped", they would be getting NOTHING in return.

The fact of the matter is, YOU people cant use critical thining and dont look at the3 big picture...thats YOUR bad. Blaming institutions for others mishaps is a fuckin COP-OUT.

So go ahead, believe what you want about college athletes and the so called "pimping" that happenes, when in REALITY, its the ATHLETE who needs to take responsibility, not the university, the NCAA, or the NFL...

...Still ain't read it... Smh...

 

[AGENT707]

"i fucked your mom"...

i seriously dont get y it is so hard for you to grasp the exploitation concept...

this "free education" does not at all compare to the advantages of revenue generated from these players...

like THE ARTICLE STATES...schools basically dont give a shit about the players integrity towards scholarly achievments and i think promote a very easy major and classes...WHICH DOES HAPPEN...

ALSO...i am not saying only blacks are exploited...im saying this exploitation unproportionately affects black student athletes..

a degree in "social science" or "communication" is hardly worth noting..

the institution of the new "one and done rule" CLEARLY symbolizes the attitude of college...its like "were gonna make our money off u for at least one year, and u can bullshit ur way thru one year of bullshit classes"..

if anyone was truely unbias and fair...they would say "do w/e the fuck u want"...

most of these guys that play sports arent the smartest dudes and dont even want to be in school but they are because its their best route to turn pro..

YOU KEEP COMING BACK WITH STUPID ASS ARGUMENTS and want to say dumb shit like-- "Uhhhhh...hello, genius...ever thought that maybe if these kids got a 4-year degree, they could turn $35,000 for four years, into a $100,000 a year job???"--

u r obviously a naive and unintelligent person...seriously, how old are you??..i would be surprised if your older than 19...

 

[AGENT707]

o yah...for you to not even read the article clearly points out how dumb your arguments are...and i guarantee that you didnt even read the articles heavily criticizing roger goodell and his "prove" statements..

 

[XxtraMannish]

this "free education" does not at all compare to the advantages of revenue generated from these players...

Elaborate.

like THE ARTICLE STATES...schools basically dont give a shit about the players integrity towards scholarly achievments and i think promote a very easy major and classes...WHICH DOES HAPPEN...

Its not up to the school to give a shit. That has to come from the student. if I fuck off my opportunity its not my school's fault.

ALSO...i am not saying only blacks are exploited...im saying this exploitation unproportionately affects black student athletes..

Explain. You're acting like somebody is "out to get" the black American student athlete.

a degree in "social science" or "communication" is hardly worth noting..

Whatever degree the students work for is not the school's decision.

the institution of the new "one and done rule" CLEARLY symbolizes the attitude of college...its like "were gonna make our money off u for at least one year, and u can bullshit ur way thru one year of bullshit classes"..

So you're saying there's a rule somewhere that says athletes HAVE to go to school for one year (The NBA rule doesn't say this if that's what you're referring to)? If there is, I can assure you its not the college's rule.

most of these guys that play sports arent the smartest dudes and dont even want to be in school but they are because its their best route to turn pro..

So? Chalk that shit up as a cost of doing business then. If you're only in school to turn pro (which again is the student's decision)AND its the best way to turn pro, then that in itself is compensation. They provide the opportunity to go pro. Where else you gonna get that? If you got a better route to the pros then dont go to college. This is called opportunity cost.

YOU KEEP COMING BACK WITH STUPID ASS ARGUMENTS and want to say dumb shit like-- "Uhhhhh...hello, genius...ever thought that maybe if these kids got a 4-year degree, they could turn $35,000 for four years, into a $100,000 a year job???"--

u r obviously a naive and unintelligent person...seriously, how old are you??..i would be surprised if your older than 19...

I know you're not addressing me, but you are seriously underestimating the value of a 4 year UNIVERSITY education vs a GED/HS diploma/couple semesters at a junior college/career college certificate.

 

[AGENT707]

please dont explain "opportunity cost" to me..1 reason being im a fuckin ECON major...and 2 i guarantee i understand the business aspects of sports way more than you...

first point...im not saying they are "out to get black athletes"...im saying college exploits them...

second point...it IS up to the schools to emphasize progress on and off the fields

third point...the students-athletes will basically be encouraged to take bullshit majors...easy courses...easy to pass...and with the college basketball instituting the one and done real...school will be seen as a bigger joke to athletes..

fourth point...players must be one year outta highschool to be eligible.its the NBA'S rule...which clearly HEAVILY benefits colleges..until VERY VERY recently college ball was their next best step in becoming a pro...all of the sudden brandon jennings mite go to europe and make money and be seen still...this could maybe change the threshold college has on the players via the new eligiblity rule...like i said, the one and done rule clearly symbolizes the NCAA's and the NBA's attitude toward their main concern which is money..

fifth point...i notice you and also other people keep saying 4 years...MOST of these dudes try and bounce before even staying four years and graduating..they wouldnt even be able to graduate in 4 years...it takes a lot of people quite a bit longer..college is the best route to turn pro, however, the probability of turning pro is low and these players will be done with their sport while having a borderline education to enter back into society

 

[MrPeete]

Haven't read the article yet... Does it explain where all of this revenue is going? Does not a penny of it go to improve conditions/programs/resources at the schools?

 

[xpanther206]

I agree with I Fucked Your Mom in this situation, especially b/c the ones who are getting the schools all that money do end up getting theirs at the pro level. You can't tell me that the scrubs on scholarship are getting "pimped" by the school b/c they're not the ones deserving that cash the school's raking in, it's the studs on the squad who are doing the heavy lifting (and those guys do make it).

And it is true they aren't prepared when they come in, that's not the NCAA's fault. If you wanted the athletes to be equally qualified to attend the school as the AVG students, you'd have whiteboy NCAA athletes vintage 1930. They have a name for this kind of thing, it's NCAA Division III, it's great for the people involved (I played myself, loved it), but nobody besides the athletes gives a shit. Nobody wants this (I think somebody on this board stated something hilariously a few months back when he said something along the lines of "who wants to see a 5'8'' 175 LB Chinese American lineman?")

The one thing I Fucked Your Mom is wrong about (b/c I knew it was impossible for that dude to make a truly perfect post) are his feelings towards Jason Whitlock. The man is a stud, I'm a little surprised you don't like him b/c if you're a huge personal responsibility type of guy, Jason Whitlock is a big personal responsibility type as well, so much so that I think most black people hate him and call him an Uncle Tom and such. I'm sure you could provide an idiotic link or two, all writers fuck it up every now and then, but by and large Whitlock's one of my favorite dudes, I love that guy.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

please dont explain "opportunity cost" to me..1 reason being im a fuckin ECON major...and 2 i guarantee i understand the business aspects of sports way more than you...

Thats great..but guess what? Im a psychilogy major, and before any money or school is involved, you have to look at the THOUGHT process of an individual. Again, this is ALL on the student, and ZERO on the institution, which is what people like YOU in this whole agrument are FAILING to understand. Every HUMAN BEING has a personal responsiblity to balnce their id with their super-ego. If you do NOT know what those things are, I suggest you look them up.

first point...im not saying they are "out to get black athletes"...im saying college exploits them...

Yet, you fail to speak of white people and the such...its only BLACK athletes. This is where you are 100% flawed.

second point...it IS up to the schools to emphasize progress on and off the fields

No, its NOT. The school is ONLY responsible for making sure the student keeps up a MINIMUM grade to PLAY. Thats it. They dont give a shit WHAT you do. You can miss every single class for the ENTIRE year, so long as you PASS the course. This isnt fuckin HS where they hold your hand and take attendance. These are ADULTS in an ADULT learning setting.

third point...the students-athletes will basically be encouraged to take bullshit majors...easy courses...easy to pass...and with the college basketball instituting the one and done real...school will be seen as a bigger joke to athletes..

Even IF this were the case, it is UP to the student to make his or her mind up to NOT do this. Your flaw in this whole thing is that you are bascially saying that all student athletes are MINDLESS robots. If that is the case, why is the university at fault? That is HUMAN ERROR. If these students are getting "pimped", its by THEIR own hand.

fourth point...players must be one year outta highschool to be eligible.its the NBA'S rule...which clearly HEAVILY benefits colleges..

Maybe, but even then, a whole year? I mean, your hanging your argument on an athlete doing ONE year of bastekball? Kinda hard to "pimp" someone who is only their for such a short time, especially if that team doesnt do squat. OJ mayo and USC ring a bell?

until VERY VERY recently college ball was their next best step in becoming a pro...all of the sudden brandon jennings mite go to europe and make money and be seen still...this could maybe change the threshold college has on the players via the new eligiblity rule...like i said, the one and done rule clearly symbolizes the NCAA's and the NBA's attitude toward their main concern which is money..

This is a horrible example. If these schools were "pimping", they would say NO to this and make kids stay in college 3+ years. And now you are saying that the NCAA and NBA are in bed with one another on this conspiracy? Oh LORD you have lost your damn mind.

fifth point...i notice you and also other people keep saying 4 years...MOST of these dudes try and bounce before even staying four years and graduating..

Yes, becuase CAPITALISM tells them to. Get money NOW, dont prepare for the future. Perfect example? Read this thread:

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?p=3777026&posted=1#post3777026

The highlight of that article?

"So, why do you think NBA players (maybe all sports figures for all I know) have such poor financial skills? I think it’s because they know how to play basketball but know very little about money. I think it’s also due to the fact that lots of kids get handed fat contracts before they are mature enough to handle themselves."

they wouldnt even be able to graduate in 4 years...it takes a lot of people quite a bit longer..college is the best route to turn pro, however, the probability of turning pro is low and these players will be done with their sport while having a borderline education to enter back into society

Again, students FAULT...PERIOD.

And for the 2980743rd time, when will people STOP balming the instituion, are start holding the INDIVIDUALS accountable for THEIR proposed actions?

Its easier to blame "the man", then it is for someone who sees a person as a "victim", even though its ass-backwards.

:ermm:

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

The one thing I Fucked Your Mom is wrong about (b/c I knew it was impossible for that dude to make a truly perfect post) are his feelings towards Jason Whitlock. The man is a stud, I'm a little surprised you don't like him b/c if you're a huge personal responsibility type of guy, Jason Whitlock is a big personal responsibility type as well, so much so that I think most black people hate him and call him an Uncle Tom and such. I'm sure you could provide an idiotic link or two, all writers fuck it up every now and then, but by and large Whitlock's one of my favorite dudes, I love that guy.

I dont like Whitlock becuase he feels he holds some standard for African Americans in sports related fields, which is an oxymoron in itself. Not to mention, the whole "black KKK" thing....he lost all crediblity after that.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

...Still ain't read it... Smh...

And i never will...SMH....

 

[MooreBlock530]

all i gotta say is if the person feels like there getting gipped or pimped maybe they shouldnt accept the scholarship......go and do what ever esle you want to do with your life if its so fuckin terrible.....


do you think thats going to happen?


no one puts a gun to the athletes head and say "do this".......its all there choice and people that are COMPLAINING about it ARENT PLAYING THE GAME AND DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THERE TALKING ABOUT.....

 

[KillaClown]

"i fucked your mom"
this "free education" does not at all compare to the advantages of revenue generated from these players...

go ahead and give it to the players. Then they can buy cars and clothes and jewelry and homes with the shit. GRAND IDEA.

Then you can say goodbye to your athletic department ALTOGETHER! as well as lose any of your adjunct faculty and find yourself unable to give scholarships to some of the minds who come to world recognized universities for things that might change the face of the world as opposed to the face of America's national sports teams.

The bottom line is THE MONEY A SCHOOL GENERATES FROM THEIR SPONSORED TEAMS IS THEIR OWN. If you give all the money to the college players, are they going to invest it back into the school?

A guy like me is going to be paying back loans for years so I can get a good degree and ultimately a well-paying job. All these cats have to do are two things: Play your sport; get Good Grades. The degree is FREE, you just have to do the work. And on top of that, how often do you hear "oh, another X number years of college would have done ______ ________ before he went professional" ? That's because these athletes are being trained in college to work on a professional level.

A healthy mind does more for society than a healthy body ever has. It took hundreds of thousands of slaves to build the pyramids in Egypt, but only one man to design the concept of a pyramid.

 

[AGENT707]

Thats great..but guess what? Im a psychilogy major, and before any money or school is involved,

it is quite amazing how stupid you are...LOL @ psychology major...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE....hahahaha you gotta be fucking kidding me...lol @ "but guess what?"....LIKE I SAID...there is NO WAY you are older than 19..

FIRST OF ALL if the schools and NBA,NFL gave a shit about anyone besides themselves there would be no age or any other restriction rule

IF THEY GAVE SHIT they would let people decide for themselves if they want to go to school or just go straight to the pro's...

--"Every HUMAN BEING has a personal responsiblity to balnce their id with their super-ego"--

r u fuckin serious!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant beleive u said that!!!1....NO WAY U JUST TAPPED INTO YOUR JUNIOR COLLEGE LEVEL PSYCH COURSE!!!!!!!...dawg, u r truely pathetic..a fuckin straight up clown..

it is obvious u r trying to sound smart...thats a lot different than actually being smart...

its pretty obvious this conversation is a little over your head...

i SERIOUSLY cannot believe the type of shit u try and say...

i would continue to go back and forth with u but after reading that long post it is obvious u r FUCKING DUMBASS...

DONT com at me with that elementary psychology bullshit...that was by the far the gayest attempt to sound smart i have ever seen...

apparently u r some expert on FRUED now?....

u r a FUCKING JOKE...

SLAP URSELF...

 

[XxtraMannish]

please dont explain "opportunity cost" to me..1 reason being im a fuckin ECON major...and 2 i guarantee i understand the business aspects of sports way more than you...

That's great that you are in school and all, but I doubt you understand business more than I do, reason being I'm a fuckin BUSINESS major.

first point...im not saying they are "out to get black athletes"...im saying college exploits them...

and the players exploit the colleges too. if they are not guys who have a real shot at going pro, they are getting a free education that poor people could not otherwise afford. If they do have a shot at going pro, then this is the stage that they exploit to showcase their talent to pro teams.

second point...it IS up to the schools to emphasize progress on and off the fields

No, it really isn't. Why is it up to the school to make sure a student succeeds? If a student doesn't take his shit seriously the school can't do that. All the school can do is open the door, the student has to decide to walk through it.

third point...the students-athletes will basically be encouraged to take bullshit majors...easy courses...easy to pass...and with the college basketball instituting the one and done real...school will be seen as a bigger joke to athletes..

Its up to the student to take his education seriously. When its all said and done, the student picks his own classes and makes the decision to attend them and do his work. thats not the school's job.

fourth point...players must be one year outta highschool to be eligible.its the NBA'S rule...which clearly HEAVILY benefits colleges..until VERY VERY recently college ball was their next best step in becoming a pro...all of the sudden brandon jennings mite go to europe and make money and be seen still...this could maybe change the threshold college has on the players via the new eligiblity rule...like i said, the one and done rule clearly symbolizes the NCAA's and the NBA's attitude toward their main concern which is money..

The NBA rule does not say that any player has to go to college. it just says they have to be at least 18 and one year removed from their HS graduating class. that doesn't mean they have to go to college.

fifth point...i notice you and also other people keep saying 4 years...MOST of these dudes try and bounce before even staying four years and graduating..they wouldnt even be able to graduate in 4 years...it takes a lot of people quite a bit longer..college is the best route to turn pro, however, the probability of turning pro is low and these players will be done with their sport while having a borderline education to enter back into society

then maybe they should man up and take some fuckin responsibility for their own life and get their fuckin education. these are teenagers but at the same time they are grown men who's future rest on their shoulders. saying somebody else is responsible for your life is bullshit. be a fuckin man and get your FREE degree if you know its not likely that you're going pro.

 

[KillaClown]

Thats great..but guess what? Im a psychilogy major, and before any money or school is involved,

it is quite amazing how stupid you are...LOL @ psychology major...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE....hahahaha you gotta be fucking kidding me...lol @ "but guess what?"....LIKE I SAID...there is NO WAY you are older than 19..

FIRST OF ALL if the schools and NBA,NFL gave a shit about anyone besides themselves there would be no age or any other restriction rule

IF THEY GAVE SHIT they would let people decide for themselves if they want to go to school or just go straight to the pro's...

--"Every HUMAN BEING has a personal responsiblity to balnce their id with their super-ego"--

r u fuckin serious!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant beleive u said that!!!1....NO WAY U JUST TAPPED INTO YOUR JUNIOR COLLEGE LEVEL PSYCH COURSE!!!!!!!...dawg, u r truely pathetic..a fuckin straight up clown..

it is obvious u r trying to sound smart...thats a lot different than actually being smart...

its pretty obvious this conversation is a little over your head...

i SERIOUSLY cannot believe the type of shit u try and say...

i would continue to go back and forth with u but after reading that long post it is obvious u r FUCKING DUMBASS...

DONT com at me with that elementary psychology bullshit...that was by the far the gayest attempt to sound smart i have ever seen...

apparently u r some expert on FRUED now?....

u r a FUCKING JOKE...

SLAP URSELF...

you my friend, might need to go back to school yourself. You have a lot of ignorance laughing in a man's face for being a Psyc major, yet you yourself can't spell "Freud" correctly and obviously have no type of education judging from your spelling and grammar.

 

[MRTHECOSE]

Again, athletes are given shcolarships and it is up to THEM to use it to their full potential, period. If they want to half-ass and take a bunch of gym classes, then they flutered that away.

Bascially, it is on the individual to be prepared to go into the real world. At 18 years of age, you are an ADULT. If some HS kid wants to bank his or her career SOLELY on football or basketball, then guess what? That is THEIR bad. If they get injured and have NO education becuase they fucked if off, they deserve to be broke. Fuck em.

Im gettin tired of people blaiming institutes for an individual's failures. If you can not funtion as a free-thinking human being and then go and blame someone else for YOUR faults, you should be killed instantly.

And even through ALL this...you are STILL missing the point. Imagine that.

/thread

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Thats great..but guess what? I'm a psychology major, and before any money or school is involved,

it is quite amazing how stupid you are...LOL @ psychology major...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE....hahahaha you gotta be fucking kidding me...lol @ "but guess what?"....LIKE I SAID...there is NO WAY you are older than 19..

LOL! I guess I am not sure why being a psyche major is funny. Could you please enlighten me?

FIRST OF ALL if the schools and NBA,NFL gave a shit about anyone besides themselves there would be no age or any other restriction rule

Right, because keeping a kid for a minimum of one year, as opposed to 2 years or 3 years, is beneficial. What the fuck are you even talking about?


For football, there is NO WAY, a 17-18 year old KID is ready to go up against MEN who are faster and MUCH stronger than them. What are you, stupid? Get a clue, dummy.

IF THEY GAVE SHIT they would let people decide for themselves if they want to go to school or just go straight to the pro's...

SMH

Go back and read what you just typed.

--"Every HUMAN BEING has a personal responsibility to balance their id with their super-ego"--

r u fuckin serious!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe u said that!!!1....NO WAY U JUST TAPPED INTO YOUR JUNIOR COLLEGE LEVEL PSYCH COURSE!!!!!!!...dawg, u r truly pathetic..a fuckin straight up clown..

Why cant you believe I just said that? Why am i pathetic? Do you even know what id and super-ego is? Did you even go and look those up?

it is obvious u r trying to sound smart...thats a lot different than actually being smart...

I never said i was smart, i just know what i know...which apparently is much more than you.

its pretty obvious this conversation is a little over your head...

Funny, because i feel the EXACT same way towards you. Imagine that.

i SERIOUSLY cannot believe the type of shit u try and say...

Why? Because its RIGHT? You have brought NOTHING to this argument, other than you complete lack of self-reservation. You miss the big picture and that is why FAIL and have LOST this argument LONG AGO. Have you not noticed EVERYONE disagreeing with you? Get a clue, bucko.

i would continue to go back and forth with u but after reading that long post it is obvious u r FUCKING DUMBASS...

LOL! Ive BEEN saying this to YOU since YOU'RE first post in the LAST thread. I tried to keep it civil and logical, but you just cant comprehend ANYTHING.

DONT com at me with that elementary psychology bullshit...that was by the far the gayest attempt to sound smart i have ever seen...

The fact that nearly this whole post, all you have done is dwell on psychology and refuted NOTHING i said, speaks volumes.

apparently u r some expert on FRUED now?....

Actually, its Freud. And where did i say that? Id, ego, and super-ego are Freud theories that are widely used by psychologist.

u r a FUCKING JOKE...

Oh, the irony. Kettle, have you met the color black yet?

SLAP URSELF...

I did. Didn't change the fact that you're a fuckin retarded ass clown that cant refute ANYTHING that has been said in this thread. The mere fact that you have to get defensive towards my post shows how lack-knowledge you are of anything being said to you. Dismissing logic and SIMPLE psychology to fill a void of "its not the players fault, its the schools fault!" is the age old "blame my problems on someone else" theory. And you CLEARLY believe in it. And thats where YOU fail. You act as if these kids don't have ANY personal responsibility and that they have to be a fuckin robot and be told what to do. Are you that dumb? Did you always do what YOUR parents told you to do? How about your boss? Teacher? Coach? I'm guessing NO.

Look, trying to discredit me because YOU cant think critically or form a rational thought, is extremely childish. You have had more than one post directed towards me on some "fuck you I'm right and your wrong because I'm stubborn" shit. And you want to call me "younger than 19"? Again, with the condescending remarks. This whole conversation, you have proved NOTHING other than your ignorance and flat out illogical views on life and individuals. Not to mention, your conspiracy theories of non-existent racism. Why do people like you LOOK for that shit? Do you have some deep-rooted guilt of being racist yourself? Or do you express guilt for the 400 years of slavery by our ancestors, so you feel the need to be an activist towards "the man"? Either way, you look stupid and you're fighting some imaginary revolution that only crack pots are a part of.

You can reply all you want, but i am done trying to rationalize with someone who doesn't want to be rational or logical.

:ermm:

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

That's great that you are in school and all, but I doubt you understand business more than I do, reason being I'm a fuckin BUSINESS major.

OWNED

and the players exploit the colleges too. if they are not guys who have a real shot at going pro, they are getting a free education that poor people could not otherwise afford. If they do have a shot at going pro, then this is the stage that they exploit to showcase their talent to pro teams.

OWNED

No, it really isn't. Why is it up to the school to make sure a student succeeds? If a student doesn't take his shit seriously the school can't do that. All the school can do is open the door, the student has to decide to walk through it.

This has now been said 4 times by 4 different people.

Its up to the student to take his education seriously. When its all said and done, the student picks his own classes and makes the decision to attend them and do his work. thats not the school's job.

See above.

The NBA rule does not say that any player has to go to college. it just says they have to be at least 18 and one year removed from their HS graduating class. that doesn't mean they have to go to college.

And that ends this argument.

then maybe they should man up and take some fuckin responsibility for their own life and get their fuckin education. these are teenagers but at the same time they are grown men who's future rest on their shoulders. saying somebody else is responsible for your life is bullshit. be a fuckin man and get your FREE degree if you know its not likely that you're going pro.

Again, this cant be stressed enough.

But, I guess it is easier to blame the system, and not the people in it, I guess.

 

[JesterMIR]

Somebody better tell Collin McCarthy that you have to be black to play football.