i still hit both up, good thing bout the Siccness is its like a one stop for many boards, sumtimes sum bull shit ones that need not be, but any how they both do the job, good looking for vampers hooking up bart again when it was not up, but look at the hits BART or Siccnezz..BART killing siccness, so in a way vamps came out good , gota lota traffic from bart, remeber back in the days when siccness was dead compared to bart, now they merge, good shit