Sellassie's Video on the use of the word "N#igga" and its use by NonBlacks

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Sydal

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wrong wrong wrong, them samoans were saying nigga before rap came around because they are in a CRIP gang. Crip being a black American gang. SOS origina They didn't come to america and make their own gangs they came here and became crips and bloods, say nigga and talk in other urban black slang. Blacks made rock n roll, chuck berry look him up.
Actually, Rock & Roll began with Rockabilly, which was influenced by country and jazz. Early rock & roll ELEMENTS can be heard in 1930's country music. The genre was NAMED in the 1950's, but the foundation for the music was laid before Chuck Berry was a teenager.

"Maybelline" was an adaptation of "Ida Red". So really, Chuck Berry's success began with country...which was created by Black AND White folks.
 
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I would go into it more, but then we would be fighting forever about the difference between rock n roll, rockabilly, country,white "folk music", country western, who made them etc. But chuck and other black blues and "country" artists made rock n roll wheter a song of his borrowed from a country song that catapulted him to stardom.
 
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You two are both trippen the beginning of rock and roll was founded by Ting Meng in 1826 china's Boungal Provence with 2 chop stick and a bamboo Mic 1st track titled "Bunglow pow" yall all trying to be Chinese!
 

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I would go into it more, but then we would be fighting forever about the difference between rock n roll, rockabilly, country,white "folk music", country western, who made them etc. But chuck and other black blues and "country" artists made rock n roll wheter a song of his borrowed from a country song that catapulted him to stardom.
"Mabelline" was in 1955...Elvis recorded "That's All Right (Mama) in 1954 (borrowed from Blues). "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley & His Comets was also in 1954...but WRITTEN in 1952 by Max Freeman and James Myers. They say Rock & Roll never would have happened without Big Joe Turner...but his first Rock track "Shake, Rattle, & Roll" was also in 1954. Seems to me Rock & Roll (both black and white) emerged at the same time.

"Rockabilly" is just the TYPE of Rock & Roll music performed in the 1950's.

"There is general agreement that it arose in the southern United States of America - the region which would produce most of the major early rock and roll acts - through the meeting of the different musical traditions which had developed from transatlantic African slavery and largely European immigration in that region."

M. T. Bertrand, Race, Rock, and Elvis: Music in American Life (University of Illinois Press, 2000), pp. 21-2.

"The combination of elements of white and black music in rock and roll, inevitably provoked strong reactions within the US, with many condemning its breaking down of barriers based on color."

G. C. Altschuler, All shook up: how rock 'n' roll changed America (Oxford: Oxford University Press US, 2003), p. 35.

It's not a black or white thing. Rock & Roll came from both backgrounds. It's roots come from BOTH sides....and the first Rock & Roll hits were from black and white artists alike.
 
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I don't know homes my info says different. It says that even though both blacks and whites have made rock popular and you cant say its anybody music that ultimately young blacks devoloped the music out of blues and RandB. Elaborate later.
 

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it came from blues and jazz (black shit) just like everything else in the world
And it came from country, as well...and all that music came from musical talents in African and European Americans...and they created it together which is why it was disliked (because it crossed boundaries).

At the end of the day, it isn't JAZZ, BLUES, OR COUNTRY! It's ROCK! Totally different Genre's, with totally different sounds...created by totally different people.

Just because you create a processor, doesn't mean you can say you created personal computers. This is the same idea. The computer wouldn't be without the processor, but the person who created the processor can't claim the Apple creation. Just because you create an element of something, doesn't mean you can claim you created something involving that element.