It's nitpicking, it was a jump ball there is always contact by receivers and DBs during jump balls like that on 4th and 10, gotta let them play.
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Maybe, he had to extend one hand pretty far out just to get his hand on the ball, if the other hand is free I think he still has to one hand catch it and you see Sherman's other hand come in and knock the ball out.
Julio is a beast. What hurt them the most though was the perfect pass drop he had that was picked off by Earl, that was the game changer right there otherwise Jones makes that catch easy first down.
Julio is a beast. What hurt them the most though was the perfect pass drop he had that was picked off by Earl, that was the game changer right there otherwise Jones makes that catch easy first down.
I was starting to wonder for a while if Kearse was hurt. Not much of a peep from him til the end. They did a good job containing Baldwin today as well
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I LOVE seeing Graham being used like he should. It's amazing really. The sports radio I listen to pointed out how since with the Hawks bes lined up in a 3 point stance more than his whole time with the saints. I mean fuck,how hard is it?? Slot, outside. Just THROW him the ball and line him as a fucking receiver.
It's 4th and 10 on a jump ball, there is almost always going to be some contact one way or the other in situations like that. People just love to hate Seattle, anytime there's a call that goes the Seahawks way they'll jump all over it.
Like I mentioned, I think what hurt the falcons more was Julio dropped pass that Earl picked off. That was the game changer. If Julio catches that it's an easy first down. They shouldn't have put themselves in a position where they need to pick up a 4th and 10.
Like I mentioned, I think what hurt the falcons more was Julio dropped pass that Earl picked off. That was the game changer. If Julio catches that it's an easy first down. They shouldn't have put themselves in a position where they need to pick up a 4th and 10.
The fact that this supposed "pass interference" Sherman did is causing so much controversy right now shows how soft and pathetic the NFL is really becoming. Teams would rather win on a soft call than outplaying another team. Fans would rather win on a soft call than outplaying the other team. It's fucking stupid.
I swear I hear the announcers for every single game say the word "flag" at least 100 times per game with phrases like "they're looking for a flag". Players seem to want flags more than wanting to actually make a play now days.
I swear I hear the announcers for every single game say the word "flag" at least 100 times per game with phrases like "they're looking for a flag". Players seem to want flags more than wanting to actually make a play now days.
Hell yeah people are soft. If Atlanta wants to throw a 40 yard jump ball on 4th and 10 with the game on the line into double coverage thats on them.
Plus you can't have it both ways, I mean look, Julio put illegal hands to Sherman's face that is how he got separated from Sherman in the first place, that is technically a penalty, not allowed to do that. Do people really want a game where everything is called a penalty? Fuck that it's bad enough as it is.
Here is Jones smacking Sherman in the face on that last play:
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Plus you can't have it both ways, I mean look, Julio put illegal hands to Sherman's face that is how he got separated from Sherman in the first place, that is technically a penalty, not allowed to do that. Do people really want a game where everything is called a penalty? Fuck that it's bad enough as it is.
Here is Jones smacking Sherman in the face on that last play:
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Exactly. And people like Brees, Rodgers seems to get those when it counts the most. I've seen Rodgers basically go 3 and out only to draw the other team offsides with snap count manipulation for a first then bomb it up for a flag so many times to lead him to a comeback win so many times. Or even worse, the holding flag followed by bombing it 50 yards because if the 'free play' where it doesn't matter. Play should be whistled dead and they should get rid of the free play too, unless it's in the hands of a rusher already or something
That was a problem last year too. I've read that there is some kind of communication problem getting out the plays quick enough with Kris Richard and that this has been an ongoing problem. Whether Sherman was right or wrong, his explosion was a result of the frustration built up over this issue. Hopefully it gets resolved quickly.
That was as confusing a game as the Seahawks have ever played, which is saying something given the confounding nature of the team under coach Pete Carroll.
Seattle was nothing short of dominant in the first half, building a 14-point lead. The Seahawks were unambiguously awful in the third quarter, letting a two-touchdown advantage turn into a seven-point deficit before Seattle came back to win in spite of itself, missing a field goal in the fourth quarter and having what would have been the game-tying extra-point blocked.
With all that in mind, here’s a best attempt to make sense of what happened.
Three things we learned:
I. Seattle’s defense can dissolve without warning. This is not about Richard Sherman or his anger on the sidelines. We’ll get to that in a bit. But through five games, the Seahawks have been exceptional on defense except for two periods: the fourth quarter against San Francisco in Week 3 and the third quarter of Sunday’s game against Atlanta. Those two quarters account for more than 25 percent of the total yards Seattle has allowed this season and nearly half the points the Seahawks have given up. The 49ers gained 122 yards and scored 14 points in the final period of their loss in Seattle while the Falcons gained 252 yards and scored 21 points in the third quarter on Sunday. Seattle has allowed just 58 yards and 2.4 points on average over the rest of the 18 regular-season quarters it has played this year.
2. Russell Wilson is a better quarterback this year. It’s not his mobility that is limited so much as a distinct lack of acceleration. He’s nowhere near as explosive as he has been in previous seasons, averaging 7 rushing yards per game and 1.7 per carry. That shouldn’t be all that big of a shock when you consider the guy suffered a high-ankle sprain in the opener and a sprained knee ligament two weeks later. And all he has done is complete more than two-thirds of his pass attempts over the past two games without throwing an interception since Week 1, when he was healthy. And more than ever, Wilson is stepping up into the pocket and continuing to look down-field on plays where he may have run in the past. It’s also worth noting that he has been picked off only twice in his last 12 regular-season games even as he’s throwing more frequently than at any point previously in his career.
3. Wilson’s health explains more than half of Seattle’s run-game struggles. The Seahawks are averaging 88.8 yards rushing this season and 3.2 yards per carry. Compare that to their 2015 averages of 141.8 per game and 4.5 per carry. Now consider that Wilson accounted for more than one-quarter of Seattle’s rushing yards a year ago. If you take out Wilson’s carries, here’s how Seattle’s rushing totals compare: 81.8 yards per game and 3.4 yards per carry in 2016 compared to 107.2 per game and 4.3 per carry last year. There’s one other factor to consider regarding Wilson’s injury: opponents don’t have to account for him as diligently when defending the read option as he’s not as big of a threat to run, and that certainly crimps opportunities for others. In other words, the single biggest difference in Seattle’s running game this season is that Wilson is not really part of it.
Three things we’re still trying to figure out:
1. How much will Sherman’s sideline tantrum matter? It could be evidence of fault lines running through the defense all the way up to the coordinator. It also could be a moment that makes Seattle’s defense stronger. It’s too soon to come to any conclusions, but this is something that’s going to be worth monitoring. As much as Sherman’s teammates tried to calm him down and reel him back in, he didn’t appear fully engaged with his defensive teammates after the blown coverage resulted in the first of Atlanta’s three third-quarter touchdowns. Sherman is a six-year veteran and a proven All-Pro. It’s not like he’s going to go in the tank. At the same time, given the emotional connection that Carroll has fostered among this team, it’s worth watching the chemistry going forward.
2. Why is Michael Bennett so darn mad? Wait. We know the answer to that question. Falcons offensive lineman Jake Matthews faked like he was going to block Bennett high, then went low to take out Bennett’s legs in what is known as a cut block. The question is whether Bennett should have been as mad as he was. On the one hand, the block is not only totally legal, but it’s a technique the Seahawks’ offensive line employs rather frequently. On the other hand, Bennett has an incredibly valid point about the bias that exists in the NFL’s officiating. Defenders can’t so much as slap a quarterback’s helmet, and they can’t hit him low, either, having been forbidden from diving at a quarterback’s legs after Tom Brady had his knee blown out by a Kansas City safety in 2008. Defenders get no such protection from cut blocks. So while I’m not saying that Bennett should be cursing Matthews out for what he considers a cheap play, in the words of Chris Rock, I understand. One reassuring footnote: It appears Bennett’s knee injury was not serious.
3. What the heck happened on defense in that third quarter? Seriously, it bears repeating. Seattle allowed 252 yards of offense in the third quarter as the Falcons scored three touchdowns, each on a drive of 75 or more yards. It matched the second-most points the Seahawks have given up in a single period during Carroll’s Seattle tenure. In the other three quarters, the Falcons gained a total of 110 yards and crossed midfield exactly twice. While two blown assignments explain two of the three touchdowns, they account for less than one-third of the yardage Seattle gave up. Was it that Atlanta got hot or did Seattle just get that far out of whack, and if it’s the latter, how do the Seahawks prevent that from happening again? Because that’s the kind of quarter that will end a season in January.
Making sense of Seahawks run game and their sideline meltdown
Seattle was nothing short of dominant in the first half, building a 14-point lead. The Seahawks were unambiguously awful in the third quarter, letting a two-touchdown advantage turn into a seven-point deficit before Seattle came back to win in spite of itself, missing a field goal in the fourth quarter and having what would have been the game-tying extra-point blocked.
With all that in mind, here’s a best attempt to make sense of what happened.
Three things we learned:
I. Seattle’s defense can dissolve without warning. This is not about Richard Sherman or his anger on the sidelines. We’ll get to that in a bit. But through five games, the Seahawks have been exceptional on defense except for two periods: the fourth quarter against San Francisco in Week 3 and the third quarter of Sunday’s game against Atlanta. Those two quarters account for more than 25 percent of the total yards Seattle has allowed this season and nearly half the points the Seahawks have given up. The 49ers gained 122 yards and scored 14 points in the final period of their loss in Seattle while the Falcons gained 252 yards and scored 21 points in the third quarter on Sunday. Seattle has allowed just 58 yards and 2.4 points on average over the rest of the 18 regular-season quarters it has played this year.
2. Russell Wilson is a better quarterback this year. It’s not his mobility that is limited so much as a distinct lack of acceleration. He’s nowhere near as explosive as he has been in previous seasons, averaging 7 rushing yards per game and 1.7 per carry. That shouldn’t be all that big of a shock when you consider the guy suffered a high-ankle sprain in the opener and a sprained knee ligament two weeks later. And all he has done is complete more than two-thirds of his pass attempts over the past two games without throwing an interception since Week 1, when he was healthy. And more than ever, Wilson is stepping up into the pocket and continuing to look down-field on plays where he may have run in the past. It’s also worth noting that he has been picked off only twice in his last 12 regular-season games even as he’s throwing more frequently than at any point previously in his career.
3. Wilson’s health explains more than half of Seattle’s run-game struggles. The Seahawks are averaging 88.8 yards rushing this season and 3.2 yards per carry. Compare that to their 2015 averages of 141.8 per game and 4.5 per carry. Now consider that Wilson accounted for more than one-quarter of Seattle’s rushing yards a year ago. If you take out Wilson’s carries, here’s how Seattle’s rushing totals compare: 81.8 yards per game and 3.4 yards per carry in 2016 compared to 107.2 per game and 4.3 per carry last year. There’s one other factor to consider regarding Wilson’s injury: opponents don’t have to account for him as diligently when defending the read option as he’s not as big of a threat to run, and that certainly crimps opportunities for others. In other words, the single biggest difference in Seattle’s running game this season is that Wilson is not really part of it.
Three things we’re still trying to figure out:
1. How much will Sherman’s sideline tantrum matter? It could be evidence of fault lines running through the defense all the way up to the coordinator. It also could be a moment that makes Seattle’s defense stronger. It’s too soon to come to any conclusions, but this is something that’s going to be worth monitoring. As much as Sherman’s teammates tried to calm him down and reel him back in, he didn’t appear fully engaged with his defensive teammates after the blown coverage resulted in the first of Atlanta’s three third-quarter touchdowns. Sherman is a six-year veteran and a proven All-Pro. It’s not like he’s going to go in the tank. At the same time, given the emotional connection that Carroll has fostered among this team, it’s worth watching the chemistry going forward.
2. Why is Michael Bennett so darn mad? Wait. We know the answer to that question. Falcons offensive lineman Jake Matthews faked like he was going to block Bennett high, then went low to take out Bennett’s legs in what is known as a cut block. The question is whether Bennett should have been as mad as he was. On the one hand, the block is not only totally legal, but it’s a technique the Seahawks’ offensive line employs rather frequently. On the other hand, Bennett has an incredibly valid point about the bias that exists in the NFL’s officiating. Defenders can’t so much as slap a quarterback’s helmet, and they can’t hit him low, either, having been forbidden from diving at a quarterback’s legs after Tom Brady had his knee blown out by a Kansas City safety in 2008. Defenders get no such protection from cut blocks. So while I’m not saying that Bennett should be cursing Matthews out for what he considers a cheap play, in the words of Chris Rock, I understand. One reassuring footnote: It appears Bennett’s knee injury was not serious.
3. What the heck happened on defense in that third quarter? Seriously, it bears repeating. Seattle allowed 252 yards of offense in the third quarter as the Falcons scored three touchdowns, each on a drive of 75 or more yards. It matched the second-most points the Seahawks have given up in a single period during Carroll’s Seattle tenure. In the other three quarters, the Falcons gained a total of 110 yards and crossed midfield exactly twice. While two blown assignments explain two of the three touchdowns, they account for less than one-third of the yardage Seattle gave up. Was it that Atlanta got hot or did Seattle just get that far out of whack, and if it’s the latter, how do the Seahawks prevent that from happening again? Because that’s the kind of quarter that will end a season in January.
Making sense of Seahawks run game and their sideline meltdown