San Francisco Gang Injunctions Move Foward

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Apr 13, 2005
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SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera Thursday submitted an injunction against 76 alleged gang members that would require them to cease gang-related activity in areas of the Mission District and the Western Addition recently plagued with violence. The injunction was filed against members of the Eddy Rock, Chopper City, Knock Out Posse and the Nortenos gangs.

A group of concerned residents gathered Thursday at City Hall to protest the plan, which they thought would be difficult to enforce and could lead to racial profiling. The injunctions allow the presumption of guilt "without the safeguards of the criminal system, " said an attorney from the American Civil Liberties Union. She said the ACLU had set up a hot line for persons detained, hassled, or listed as gang members should the injunction take effect. However, Matt Dorsey, a spokesman for Herrera, said there were "a number of allegations made at the rally that don't reflect what an injunction is."

"This is far from a blanket scattershot request for an injunction, this is extremely well documented," Dorsey said. He said it only names the most active known adult gang members. "Is this really about saving lives?" asked Minister Mohamed of San Francisco's Bayview District. "If you are going to have an injunction, have it against the biggest gang in town, the San Francisco Police Department Gang Task Force." Mohamed blamed the undercover gang task force for instigating violence by baiting teenagers or dropping them in unfamiliar neighborhoods, in the hopes of stirring up gang activity.

He said that historically gang injunctions were driven by corporate development interests. Others said the efforts by anti-gang officials to abate violence in the Mission and Western Addition districts go too far and only push crime elsewhere. Mission District homeowner and life-long resident Roberto Hernandez said police harassment was a historical problem. Hernandez expressed anger at the gentrification of his neighborhood by "white hipsters," and lamented the closing of area schools, saying, "There are no more children left to educate." While the rally aimed at preventing the gang injunction, residents from the impacted neighborhoods asked why officials did not try to fix problems that lead to gang violence, such as poverty, rather than criminalize youth.

"Why is there a liquor store on every corner," asked one youth activist, but not enough programs to help youth. "It doesn't surprise me that there is a small element that doesn't think gang violence is a serious problem, but for the neighborhoods caught in the cross fire it is a serious problem," said Dorsey. "There have been 15 shootings this month alone, so anyone who claims to speak on behalf of the community who says we are doing enough to rid our neighborhood of gang violence is not listening to the community," Dorsey said. If a judge signs off, the new injunctions would join an existing injunction in place in Bayview Hunters Point against members of the Oakdale Mob gang. Among other things, the injunction would prohibit gang members with nicknames such as "Mousey," "Pee Wee," or "Triste," from wearing red clothing or carrying felt tip markers. Violating the injunction could lead to jail time or fines. When asked if the injunction could be compared to McCarthyism, Dorsey said, "Joe McCarthy was famous for saying he has lists of communists and never producing the list, this is a case where we have identified the members and proven they are gang members and routinely violate the law, they have an opportunity to respond to these allegations in court." "Given the choice, we would rather have communists on our streets," he added.
this is directly related to "bay area rap talk" as much as some moderaors might belive it is not...

These Injuctions are the first steps to develop Tools to fight/disband and terminate Organized street groups.Law enforcement views some Larger Rap Labels the same as any organized street gang.If the public lets this type of stuff go foward you will see similar types of acts toward other groups in the near future. Identical injuctions have occured in Sacramento & Los Angeles.
 
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djsincere510 said:
this is directly related to "bay area rap talk" as much as some moderaors might belive it is not...

These Injuctions are the first steps to develop Tools to fight/disband and terminate Organized street groups.Law enforcement views some Larger Rap Labels the same as any organized street gang.If the public lets this type of stuff go foward you will see similar types of acts toward other groups in the near future. Identical injuctions have occured in Sacramento & Los Angeles.

You know I'm with you 100% on this topic brother.
 
Aug 8, 2003
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good read, i was jus peepin this..

i can already hear the pitter patter of feet from people who are gonna whine like pansy's
"delete this thread!!!"
 
Apr 7, 2003
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i think thatz bullchit cuz if u've been convicted of gang enhancement ur on da lizt 2 get indited sum off my folkz have already been served paperz on da block i dont cee how they can charge 4 crime u've already been convicted of cuz thatz what they bazically doing n 2 me thatz double jeopardy
 
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that shit is real no joke b, nigga like me had 2 sneak in tha jects 4 tha photo shoot. this is no rap shit, if u from a hood in tha city and it really be rockin they gone hit yall ass wit that bull shit
 
Jan 28, 2006
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Bullshit it now gives cops more freedom to harrass anyone they want primarly blacks and hispanics and have the law on their side. Wow what is our country coming to wear you can't wear red or walk around with a pen.
 
Feb 8, 2006
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Handz said:
Bullshit it now gives cops more freedom to harrass anyone they want primarly blacks and hispanics and have the law on their side. Wow what is our country coming to wear you can't wear red or walk around with a pen.
Nothing else they do works, so they feel that justifies the injunction. When the community wants results, this seems to be the only solution in their eyes.
 
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Rapmoney sfc said:
that shit is real no joke b, nigga like me had 2 sneak in tha jects 4 tha photo shoot. this is no rap shit, if u from a hood in tha city and it really be rockin they gone hit yall ass wit that bull shit

That shit is a trip. I just found the order they filed on ya'll. Shit is crazy. You can download the oakdale, mission, and fillmore ones. This is some punk shit


http://www.sfgov.org/site/cityattorney_index.asp
 
Dec 6, 2005
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DFresh77 said:
the funny thing...this injunction only attacks the homeboys (nortenos) ...but what about the scraps? why can't they be added to this injunction?

i'm reading this pdf file...scraps stay snitching in SF...pointing fingers and shit..



http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/cityattorney/MISSION-DECLARATIONS.PDF
exactly they stay pointing fingerz i even found an article a few yearz back about an gang task officer name bitch azz mario molina saying Nortenos are nothin but brats who wana sell drugs all day but he sayz he'll give the surenos a chance 2 go home WHAT KIND OF SHIT IZ DAT da article waz called barrio life in da mission or sum shit like dat