San Francisco Expands Injunctions on Four Street Gangs

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Jan 16, 2006
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mackglider1 said:
how is their going to be a kid from 24th st shot so they put an injunction on norteno's, i dont think it was northerners shooting some kid on 24th, the injunction seems like it should be the other way around....all these injunctions do is let the people responsible for all the real bullshit going on keep it cutty for a while, and then the cops just start fucking with the regular ass people going about their daily shit
real shit
 
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C.M.P CEO said:
fuck the police man fareal...they wanna get rid of all the black n brown families.they rippin our lil bit of history of what we got away from us...we got pulled over in fillmoe the other day,2narcs,and 6police...all because of a miss stop sign,and boy i tell u,they did the fuckin most

however in fillmoe its young cats shootin up the blocks.but its the same thing around the whole bay,its young niggas doin all the killins...fillmoe espeically,its sad cuz we all grew up wit eachother and now we killin or neighbors,brothas and sistas
me and my potna got hemmed up in front of Hayes Valley Projects not too long ago...said we were speeding(we were stopped at webster) and ran a stop sign(once again, we were stopped at webster) asked us "where we were from" asked to search for weapons , we said no...they pulled us out the car and had the guns out

ole b.s.
 
Feb 23, 2006
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City Situation said:
It's not about that. There are black cops, there are rich black people buying shit out, there are black people not doing anything about all this. I know what you are saying, but statistics and racial divides don't help us get anywhere.

And there are also Asians in Chinatown and the Tenderloin. Some of the Chinatown spots have been around longer than other places you may think of before Chinatown.

I see what you're saying though.


I do consider this whole thing a real problem. People shooting each other is real. I phrased it wrong. I meant that the police are not solving the problem. I meant that they should fix underlying problems instead of trying to make or enforce law. Obviously it's not working. People need schools, things to do, community events, places to go, jobs, businesses, better quality of life, etc etc. As I'm reading this thread, a lotta the stuff is mentioned, so you know what I'm talking about.



CMP, that's a damn good project you got going on. Get at us if you need help or anything. http://screamin.org/

Imagine if you had hidden cameras with audio and you were taping when the cops pulled you over, and when the narc talked to your friend about killing. That shit is straight outta the Shield! Yeah maybe the cameras wouldn't survive a search, but there would be a way. Maybe cameras in the car, etc. The police do it, they use taping all the time. It'd be good to get back at em.

Thanks for the downtown homeless tip, but how come the cats in front of payless and shit never get caught up haha.

where you part of that ''ALL CITY, INSIGHTS ON GRAFFITI?

THATS SHIT WAS COO...I LIKED IT, YOU FOLKS SHOULD DO ANOTHER ONE.
I NOTICE A HOMIE OR TWO IN THAT VIDEO....CHANGED HIS VOICE TO NOT MAKE HIMSELF HOT..AND AONTHER WIT A FACE BLACKED OUT.
 
Dec 6, 2006
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I actually agree with what the SFPD is doing.As black ppl we are in love with complaining.If the police did nothing about the violence then yall would be sayin they dont care.I dont see how running gang members out the city is a wrong thing.Its nothing positive about gangs.Its not the police job to raise kids.Its the parents fault for raising these dumb ass killers and drug dealers.I hear yall saying they need 2 give ppl hope but going 2 high school getting a diploma and getting a job without a felony on ya record is hope itself.We cant blame the police for us killing ourselves.
 
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Sydal said:
Gentrification is fucked up, agreed. While they shouldn't be driving everybody out, they should be solving the damn problem. At the same time, folks need to stop fuckin' killin' each other...that doesn't exactly help the numbers either, does it? Do you blame the city for not wanting that shit goin' on anymore? I mean, seriously.
"They should be solving the damn problem?" This plan was implemented 50 years ago for the Moe and similar hoods across the country (Housing and Redevelopment Act). The City is not driving peeps out, its the market. The market just uses the City like every other City. Everything south of Geary was and still is up for grabs. Killings happen everywhere. Worse in the Moe than anywhere I know, even Miami where I'm at right now. Even with that, you don't see mf's leaving them million dollar market value condos near the projects, do ya? Fillmoe area condos are some of the highest $$$ in the world, not the just the country. The Fillmore Center has been sold/flip sold so many times until it's redundant to think about who is the landlord anymore. They rather take a chance, cause they know the Market will win the "Turf War," not "outta control, eddy, kop, mac block" ect.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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Beasty said:
I actually agree with what the SFPD is doing.As black ppl we are in love with complaining.If the police did nothing about the violence then yall would be sayin they dont care.I dont see how running gang members out the city is a wrong thing.Its nothing positive about gangs.Its not the police job to raise kids.Its the parents fault for raising these dumb ass killers and drug dealers.I hear yall saying they need 2 give ppl hope but going 2 high school getting a diploma and getting a job without a felony on ya record is hope itself.We cant blame the police for us killing ourselves.
what gangs beside the mexicans??,aint no black gangs in the city,we dont gang bang first off. not the job for police to raise kids,its also not their job to plant drugs on us and sale weapons in our neighborhoods or is it? dont forget we are talking about parents that came from crack era who had children which are now adult crack babies,again; another problem thats not being spoke on,they had they scientist sayin that it would be no problem after those crack babies get older, smh boy was they wrong. in life some people do choose they way they live,but more then half the people i knew that sold dope did it because it was no other means of getting money,how we gonna get those good jobs,we're either over qualified or under qualified,and if we get those jobs or try to come up in the corporate world,whats the chances of a minority climibing that corporate ladder? slim to none. we cant go to high school or mid school if we have to worry about getting shot or beat up and robbed,or dealing with teachers who dont give a fuck,surely if we had a cloning machine then we would have hundreds of "Kontac's" (wassup mayne?) in our school systems,,real solid people that actually care about our education,how about the out dated text books and lack of ther of,man its so much shit. you make it sound so easy cousin,the reality of it, that shit wont happen if they (the goverment) dont work with us not against us
 
Jun 6, 2006
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they might aswell say blacks not allowed in fillmoe after 10pm,thats what it boils down to.

you wont feel what im sayin unless u actually take a walk threw fillmoe (not even fillmoe cuz its more areas in the city thats goin threw similar pains and struggles)///and hang around for a few hours,day and late night,u will see and feel my pain,the struggle the lies and the cheats that go on,my city has it the baddest,and it shows in our music,real reality,while mafuckas dancin around in they whips,we dogin bullets tryin to get chips to feed our familys,real serious in the city,thats why we walk and talk a lil different,much mo swagga,no clownin wit us, i grew up in fillmoe and a lil bit of potreo hill,lost alot of homies,u cant do half the shit in oakland in the city,u will get yo head knocked off.put that in a documentary.
 
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Doc Truth said:
It's not about what? What's the point of saying there are black cops? What's that have to do with anything? How do Black Cops contribute to The Black area's of SF financially? They just work there. Also what rich blacks are moving into the city? Blacks are moving OUT of the city. Blacks in general are fleeing California going back down south to Atlanta, NC, etc. There is no mass influx of rich blacks moving to SF. Every black person I know complains about the lack of blacks in the Bay and talk about leaving all the time.
It's not about race. That's what I was saying. What has Willie Brown or Sophie Maxwell or Kamala Harris done? In the same light, what has Dennis Herrera done? He signs off on all these injunctions. I'm sure there's other things you can dig up on him.

Same thing with Barack Obama. People might vote for him because he's black, but he probably won't be much better. He's funded by AIPAC anyway.

http://www.franciscodacosta.com/articles/bayview109.html

$Godzilla$ said:
Mess using his position in a good way ? how
He made the uptown/downtown thing, and the proceeds were supposed to go to community places, to buy computers, etc. Maybe it would be better to unite rappers instead of splitting them on two diff CDs, but at least the money was supposed to go in the right place.

FourOneFog said:
where you part of that ''ALL CITY, INSIGHTS ON GRAFFITI?

THATS SHIT WAS COO...I LIKED IT, YOU FOLKS SHOULD DO ANOTHER ONE.
I NOTICE A HOMIE OR TWO IN THAT VIDEO....CHANGED HIS VOICE TO NOT MAKE HIMSELF HOT..AND AONTHER WIT A FACE BLACKED OUT.
Nah I actually wasnt. When I joined, that documentary was already made. I'm glad you liked it. I was surprised they had breed there. Supposedly when the first screenings happened, breed and some other writers were there. I've met a few writers thru it too. There's currently no plans to do another one.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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if they wanna help thats cool,but its just like katrina victims,how u gonna help us with a gun in yo hand? wtf is that shit. if they really wanna help,then put the real image out there,cuz when people watch news reports or see headlines in newspapers,the people who dont know anything about it in the firstplace will go off what they first see (first impressions is everything) especially that this been going on for many years,but it only hits the public so seldom,and when they do its always "GANG VIOLENCE" or sum gay shit like that,u femme? they put a real dark cloud over us...its plenty of peple that live in fillmoe that are good,raise good familys and have good jobs,but do they show that,no.my moms got hired at muni almost 15years ago,we was livin in fillmoe,moved out,alot of people did.many stayed.no education where im at,cuz my mom pays less for the house we in then people do when they payin for they apartments on the blocks out there.u do the math,shit crucial,then when its called out on - they blame it on us
 
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i knew every single person in that clip in the news,and they whole family...they not no gang,media got yal brainwashed.shit gets way deeper.they tryin to play us,maybe im the only 1 that sees that
 
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it was on the 10 oclock news the other day,search ktvu.com they should have it - be it that they put they reports on streaming media on they site now
 
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C.M.P CEO said:
they might aswell say blacks not allowed in fillmoe after 10pm,thats what it boils down to.

you wont feel what im sayin unless u actually take a walk threw fillmoe (not even fillmoe cuz its more areas in the city thats goin threw similar pains and struggles)///and hang around for a few hours,day and late night,u will see and feel my pain,the struggle the lies and the cheats that go on,my city has it the baddest,and it shows in our music,real reality,while mafuckas dancin around in they whips,we dogin bullets tryin to get chips to feed our familys,real serious in the city,thats why we walk and talk a lil different,much mo swagga,no clownin wit us, i grew up in fillmoe and a lil bit of potreo hill,lost alot of homies,u cant do half the shit in oakland in the city,u will get yo head knocked off.put that in a documentary.
You really sound extremely ignorant like all people do in oakland is dance on cars. Tell that to the 150 mothers that lost they kids last year. Oakland is waaaaaaaaaaaay worse then frisco as far as violence goes (tought hat was a known fact). There is a reason oakland is in the top 10 of the country most dangerous cities. And im not from the city or oakland just know both well enough. I see alot of people dancing on hoods and going dumb in fillmoe aswell if anything frisco is a lil bit of everything from the beanie hats to the girbaud jeans to the going dumb all comes from oakland. Not trying to glorify anything just dont like people that try turn everything into a competitin even serious shit like this.
 
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Beasty said:
I actually agree with what the SFPD is doing.As black ppl we are in love with complaining.If the police did nothing about the violence then yall would be sayin they dont care.I dont see how running gang members out the city is a wrong thing.Its nothing positive about gangs.Its not the police job to raise kids.Its the parents fault for raising these dumb ass killers and drug dealers.I hear yall saying they need 2 give ppl hope but going 2 high school getting a diploma and getting a job without a felony on ya record is hope itself.We cant blame the police for us killing ourselves.
I know we cant but they are suppose to do everything they can to make it better not make it worse they do some good stuff but most of the time they only make shit worse. Whose job is it when the parents fail ? Its not no rappers or entertainers job to raise these kids either cuz most of them even more ignorant then them.
 
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C.M.P CEO said:
my city has it the baddest,and it shows in our music,real reality,while mafuckas dancin around in they whips,we dogin bullets tryin to get chips to feed our familys,real serious in the city,thats why we walk and talk a lil different,much mo swagga,no clownin wit us

u cant do half the shit in oakland in the city,u will get yo head knocked off.put that in a documentary.
Cmon man you cant possibly be that ignorant can you ? To even imply that frisco goes trough more shit and has it worse then oakland is silly.

Oakland is very different from fillmoe. Fillmoe is a small area with alot of white neighbourhoods surrounding it so its more pressure. Oakland take away downtown and the hills and its virtually all hood. So people can move a lil mo freeley. I mean people get killed over the same shit in oakland get harrased by police too gentrification taking place out here too and all of that in bigger numbers. If anything the bay area is a duplicate of oakland if you wanna talk about swag.
 
Apr 13, 2006
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djsincere510 said:
POSTED: 3:59 pm PDT June 21, 2007

SAN FRANCISCO --

Herrera's proposed safety zone would cover an area north of Cesar Chavez Street between Valencia Street and Potrero Avenue. Police estimate there have been 59 assaults - 55 of them involving weapons - involving Nortenos within the proposed zone since 2005.

The lawsuits filed would target the Western Addition-based Eddy Rock, Chopper City and Knock Out Posse gangs and the Mission-based Norteno gang.

The Nortenos, a nationally recognized violent street gang with an estimated 300 members in San Francisco, claim a large portion of the southeastern Mission District as its turf, Herrera said. Police say there have been 18 murders since 2004 in which Nortenos were involved. Last weekend, a 15-year-old boy was shot and killed in Norteno territory at 24th and Harrison streets. Civil injunctions are critical in securing neighborhoods where violence has become an epidemic, Herrera said.
I WONDER WHY THEY AIN'T GOT SHIT ON THE "SURENOS"........ FIVE OH ALWAYS HATING ON THE HOMIES. ROLL DOWN TWO FOUR AND U SEE COPS ROLLIN EVERY 2 MINUTES.....GO DOWN 19TH AND U DON'T SEE NONE OF THAT HAPPENING. FUCK COPS AND SCRAPS.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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ignorant is not realizin what im really sayin here,show me a quote where i said its uglier in frisco then oakland? i simply said its alot more serious when it comes to lifestyle - thats what i was getting at,and dont think oakland the worst cuz of numbers cuz if u wanna get into it - it was people comin in from other cities that was bussin people heads in the O it wasnt all oakland residence, oakland is hella crazy,i lost many of men out there from the black saturday events to sideshows to house parties or just being at the wrong place wrong time...i was talkin bout the city as a whole and i can truly only speak on where im from and in my opinion the city got it the worst,oakland real bad and its alot of problems everywhere in the bay,like i said - i can only speak on where im from