San Francisco Expands Injunctions on Four Street Gangs

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the_truth_ said:
Police doesnt spend enough time on finding out the roots of the problem and trying to handle it from there. You are not going to change these kids by treatin them like a bunch of animals and making them feel even more distanced from society. The thing is most of em dont really care about them killing eachother aslong as they dont do it here thats why they try to run everybody out the people we are supposed to trust to serve and protect us dont give a shit about us its alot deeper then just 'folks need to stop killing eachother'

There is only one way to get to these youngstas and thats getting on their level. People are not going to listen to somebody they feel like they cant relate to and dont trust. There is so much more they can do that would be alot more effective then trying to forbid random muthafukas thats minding they damn business from walking the street
I agree with you 100%...no argument from me. I was just making a statement that I think people need to stop shooting each other...and stabbing each other.

In order for somebody to get on that level, there needs to be communication. The cops are bad with communication, and resort to doin' dumb shit to try and control folks. Regular people are also bad with communication, because they don't let the cops know the root of the problems. Everything is all bad because the street code is, you don't talk to the cops. SO, there should be some kind of mediation goin' on. There should be people that these kids can talk to, and confide in...without rattin' folks out to the authorities. As for police, they need to start talking to folks who know the streets, but got out of the streets...there needs to be more city employees who understand what is going on.

That's just my idea though. There are people who used to be knuckleheads who are trying to change things, but they aren't reaching these kids for some reason.
 
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^^^^ You can't just get people to stop shooting and stabbing each other. You have to find ways to get these young kids hope. Keep them in school and get them decent paying jobs. Not some minimum wage bullshit. All that money SF makes just on parking alone is enough to raise minimum wage to at least 15 an hour. You cant make it in SF on 9.50 or whatever it is. Shit even 15 an hour is pushing it.
 
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Doc Truth said:
^^^^ You can't just get people to stop shooting and stabbing each other. You have to find ways to get these young kids hope. Keep them in school and get them decent paying jobs. Not some minimum wage bullshit. All that money SF makes just on parking alone is enough to raise minimum wage to at least 15 an hour. You cant make it in SF on 9.50 or whatever it is. Shit even 15 an hour is pushing it.
Agreed. I know all about wages, I live in San Jose...and in the bay (esp. SJ and SF), $15/hr is scrapin' by. You can get an apartment in a shitty part of town if you want to have some money left for food and cable.

About school, YES! Instead of giving kids a reason to stay, they'd rather cut programs and "save money" for more "important" shit...which nobody knows exactly what that consists of. I think for once, I completely agree with you, DOC! lol.

The government makes an ASSLOAD of money...state and Federal...but they obviously believe in spending it on bullshit instead of things that really matter. From parking in SF, to taxes, to rent money coming from businesses throughout the city...and whatever else money comes from. It seems the state government isn't disbursing funds properly (like that's a big fuckin surprise). The cities don't care about anything that's not bringin' in money, and young cats are payin' for that. Violence drives property value down, so the greedy fucks would rather just drive people away and bring in a bunch of square fish instead of helping out the people that diversify the city and make it such a nice place to be.
 
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good..they need to clean up the streets..how would u like it if your lil brother was walkin home from school and get shot twice in the head...if u a gangsta hadle yo biz dont fuck wit nobody who dont got beef with you...
 
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just love how they threw in messy marv in it to try n make it seem more then what it is...true enuff killin is bad,and it happens everyday,they wanna talk about that shit then htey gotta talk about iraq cuz the u.s government doin the same shit ova there

people i was wit that day was from K.O which is eddy right,then right down the street same block tho rite? u got O.C not the original O.C skyrise (it got tore down) but that shit still O.C anyways Ko and Oc people dont get along...so with that said.the same narc (undo) that was fuckin wit us,pulled one my potnas to the side tryin to offer him side shit like "i can set up them boys down and oc so yal can go kill em" thats what my potna told us time they stopped fuckin wit us/gave us are "mis stop sign ticket" when we drove off,before that they was like,where yal goin? to go jump some o.c boys?

what kind of shit is this,but they pose to protect and serve? fuck the police

cameras in street poles.hella under covers but we all kno who they is and the cars they drive,all thats doin is makin shit worst,not better,and they do way more foul shit then that.dont believe they hype,they just want us all out..they keep fuckin wit the residence talkin bout "why dont yal just leave"

thats what these white mafuckas is doin,white cops,asian cops,they dont give a shit where im from,black cops to.keep fuckin wit us and labelin us thugs,im a black man and a human before anything
 
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What kills me is that they think if they take away people who they think are responsible, the violence will stop. They are stupid, because the conditions which create the violence will remain the same. They keep thinking that if they cut off the "head" of these "organizations", peace will come. How fucking stupid is that? Since the ingredients for violence remain in place, the only difference is that the killas get younger. But like CMP said, they just wanna push us out the turfs in the city.
 
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fillmoe got its own police patrol now,shit crazy,foot patro all the shit,that police station been there for many moons,they aint neva did shit,they too scared.they got these otha mafuckas tho.crazy ass fuck, even the fillmoe center secuirty guards are armed.blood its mainey,and when u not worryin bout them then u worryin bout the next man out to bust yo head
 
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they been kickin minorites out from frisco/oakland/richmond and havin us go to outside cities like pittsburg/antioch

now out there shit is mainey,constant shootings,day in day out...its a fuckin trap
 
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thats why the public gotta kno the real deal,these kids need to go out and vote,this nigga arnold back in office for even longer,we need to get him out,then bush.shit real mainey.the police cheif dont give a fuck really, i remember contactin them for my documentary (didnt film them yet) they was talkin bout all these legislations and shit they tryin to get pass,which they doin rite now,this wasd 3years ago
 
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cmp ceo i feel what u sayin we got a whole bunch of deez fuckin narcs harrasing us daily in da mission i get they tryin 2 do the job but iz it right 4 dem 2 beat us up N drop us off on enemy turf N make us walk all da way up fuck naw fuck da police
 
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we need secret fuckin spys in the police training academys and class rooms to find out what is really being embedded in these mafuckas head,they so crooked,always knyavin and shit

the police be out on the block,broad daylight,supplyin shit.so much shit that go on,man i swear.im really tired of this shit..i dont even wanna get into all the racist shit that was said that day to us,hella other ass shit.....its all about money,cops dont make that good money,so they harass people in the streets,hella shit that goes down on the under,the rapes/murders/lies..its crazy
 
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see and all that shit is doin is making us (the minorites) turn on each other,black and brown culture family use to be strong,now we hate amongst each other,but they dont care..cuz it all works out in their favor. thats why they cuttin back education,and buildin prisons...whens the last time u really hear about local goverment building new after school programs? big brother big sister programs,what about families on welfare,why they tryin to cut back so much,why are we constantly in debt,and if we so in debt,why people in higher offices living comfortable? u dont see arnold in no scraper
 
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and speaking of undercover police,be ware downtown,cuz they undercover bums,and police that dress ass bums that really be stinkin like shit and pissin on them selfs,but be the police,i caught one slippin cuz i saw his badge.this was a while back

moving forward.lets talk about undercover police rap promoters,djs and engineers.shit is real foul man.they aint slick
 
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from quite soome time ago said:
im working on a documentary about the bay area mayne, the title of my film is

"The Bay Area: Overlooked or Forgotten?"

this film will no be like your ordinary dvd that gets released on the daily in the bay, one of the main reason why im making this film is because its alot of young brothas and sistas gettin killed in these cold streets, me myself i lossed about 25 cats to these bay streets.....my film will cover many topics such as,

. Struggles that people go through livin in the bay
. How drugs and violence plagued our communities
. How people escape the harsh realities of life living out here

these are just a small bit of the many topics i will include in my documentary. As an addition to my film im throwing in an artist showcase - giving bay area djs,promoters,artist,etc the opportunity to gain free exposure.

hella cats are hittin me up to be in it,and im still looking for more, and i would love to do an interview with you as soon as i begin filming.

i cannot get into full details as of what the movie will be about,the basics of it is this:

The Life and Struggle that people go through while living in the bay area. My Storyline concept gets real deep,primarly aimed at other regions of the world outside of california,so that they can get a glimpse of how we live,and what our musical culture is like.

This is an Independent Film that i will be doing and i plan on taking it to various Indie Film Festivals.So if anybody would like to help out with this project and any form or way. feel free to contact:

Monte' Debruce

Cell Phone: (415)571-6918
or
Email: [email protected]

this project will be big,and hopefully it will shine the light on the bay area,and change what is going on in our city streets. Iam interested in only serious people who are down for this project. iam on a serious tight budget,and unfortunetly interviewees will not be compusated,but it will benefit you in many ways. contact me (Monte' Debruce) if you have any additional questions,or if you would like to know more details.

This has been planed for many months and now that iam able to get it filmed and edited iam now ready to pursue it fully. This Dvd will not be like the countless other dvds that has been released in the bay area,that mostly shows Drugs,Violence,and what rappers do in the Studio.This Film Gets deep,and like i said i cannot get into full details about this.But if anybody is serious about being apart of it,please get in Contact with me ASAP. So far i have about 25 people i will be interviewing,not just artist but other people of high professions aswell.

Please Contact me (Monte' Debruce) for more details.


Cell Phone: (415)571-6918
or
Email: [email protected]

p.s
feel free to hit me up if u are interested in bein in the film, all interviewees are required to sign a release form contract - granting me the rights to use ur voice and image in my film....

im lookin for people who have alot of knowledge on bay history,personal expericenes livin in the bay,and people who may have lost a loved one to these cold bay area streets.

im also doing a big R.I.P section to all the bay area fallen legends
this was what the original thread stated