Roy Jones And Bernard Hopkins arguing..[AUDIO]
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lol some things never change.
Hopkins is in the right though. He's fought nothing but elite fighters and he's relevant while jones has been fighting bums. Like Hopkins said, why should he fight roy jones, a shell of his former self, when he could fight an undefeated fighter in dawson or a monster like adamek at 200 pounds?
Personally I'd rather see hopkins fight adamek and jones can fight danny green. if they both win then they can fight since they'll both have a belt at cruiserweight.
Hopkins is in the right though. He's fought nothing but elite fighters and he's relevant while jones has been fighting bums. Like Hopkins said, why should he fight roy jones, a shell of his former self, when he could fight an undefeated fighter in dawson or a monster like adamek at 200 pounds?
Personally I'd rather see hopkins fight adamek and jones can fight danny green. if they both win then they can fight since they'll both have a belt at cruiserweight.
lol, exact same arguement, here is a video from yeaaars ago:
But the tables have turned now though. Jones got knocked the fuck out by Tarver and nearly killed by Glen Johnson, two guys hopkins slaughtered. Jones fights a shot jeff lacy and omar shieka, and he thinks he's back. Hopkins deserves 60% since he's pound 4 pound #3 fighter in the world, ranked #1 at light heavyweight and roy Jones isn't even on the radar.
But the tables have turned now though. Jones got knocked the fuck out by Tarver and nearly killed by Glen Johnson, two guys hopkins slaughtered. Jones fights a shot jeff lacy and omar shieka, and he thinks he's back. Hopkins deserves 60% since he's pound 4 pound #3 fighter in the world, ranked #1 at light heavyweight and roy Jones isn't even on the radar.
Jones-Hopkins II is getting closer to being done
In summary... Roy Jones agreed to a 45-55 split in Bernards favor. Roy said he was willing to take the short end percentage if he got his commentating job back on HBO. Bernard is interested in the deal and Roy is agreeing if HBO can do it.
We're waiting to hear what HBO comes back with. But HBO has been involved in this deal specifically so they are already aware of the conditions.
Roy said he already signed TODAY to fight Danny Green, but if a Bernard rematch goes through, he would pay Danny to wait.
Bernard is also a little turned off with the Chad Dawson fight now, because what HBO is trying to do is they basically think Chad is going to beat Glen Johnson, and then make Bernard wait til MARCH, so that Chad gets his rest, and Bernard has to wait even LONGER than he already has... Bernard sees this as HBO is setting up their new young fighter for success and they are ready to send Bernard packing home. (This is coming specifically from Bernard)
Source: Btalk.com
In summary... Roy Jones agreed to a 45-55 split in Bernards favor. Roy said he was willing to take the short end percentage if he got his commentating job back on HBO. Bernard is interested in the deal and Roy is agreeing if HBO can do it.
We're waiting to hear what HBO comes back with. But HBO has been involved in this deal specifically so they are already aware of the conditions.
Roy said he already signed TODAY to fight Danny Green, but if a Bernard rematch goes through, he would pay Danny to wait.
Bernard is also a little turned off with the Chad Dawson fight now, because what HBO is trying to do is they basically think Chad is going to beat Glen Johnson, and then make Bernard wait til MARCH, so that Chad gets his rest, and Bernard has to wait even LONGER than he already has... Bernard sees this as HBO is setting up their new young fighter for success and they are ready to send Bernard packing home. (This is coming specifically from Bernard)
Source: Btalk.com
A long-awaited rematch will unfold March 11
Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins agreed to a March 11 rematch on HBO PPV, representatives of both fighters told ESPN.com.
Ever since Roy Jones' unanimous decision victory against Bernard Hopkins for a vacant middleweight title in 1993, there has been high interest in a rematch, and on a few occasions it was close to being solidified.
Now, 12 years later, they've finally made a deal.
ones and Hopkins agreed Friday morning to a March 11 rematch on HBO PPV, representatives of both fighters told ESPN.com.
"I think it's very exciting. Bernard is very happy about it and so is Roy. It's fantastic," said Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions, which promotes Hopkins.
"We have a deal," said Jones' adviser Brad Jacobs. "I have Richard's word that Hopkins is in. and Roy told me, 'Let's go.' Everybody reviewed what was on the table and were able to agree to it."
The deal was fairly easy to make relative to other major fights because the sides didn't bicker over the money, quickly agreeing to a 50-50 deal.
Schaefer said no site has been secured yet but that there is interest from venues in Atlanta, Memphis, Chicago and Washington (where the 1993 fight took place).
Hopkins, who was considering retirement after his second consecutive close decision loss to Jermain Taylor on Dec. 3, initially asked for a 60-40 revenue split with Jones. But Hopkins backed off in recent days, telling ESPN.com that he had spoke personally with Jones and decided that he "would do it 50-50 across the board because this fight is for history."
The fight will match two of the era's biggest stars in a 12-round light heavyweight fight that amounts to a farewell bout for both of them.
"The way we look at it is that it really is the final chapter," Schaefer said. "That might just be the name of the fight because I think both guys are tremendous legends, and each one wants to end his career with a win. It's funny that 12 years ago they fought each other and their careers after that fight took much different paths, yet they still both became legends. And here they are closing their careers against each other. I think it's a fitting end to their respective careers."
Hopkins, who turns 41 in January, promised his late mother, Shirley, before she died that he would not fight past 40, although he will put that date off by several weeks to get in his finale with Jones.
Hopkins (46-4-1, 32 KOs) lost a unanimous decision to Jones in 1993 -- all three judges scored it 116-112. But after Jones moved up in weight, Hopkins eventually claimed the middleweight title. He ruled the division for more than a decade, making a division-record 20 defenses, including knockout victories against Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, until two close decision losses to Taylor this year.
Jones (49-4, 38 KOs), who turns 37 on Jan. 16, is a former middleweight, super middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight champion. For a decade he was considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, an nearly untouchable fighter with blazing speed and power. But he has slipped recently, losing three consecutive fights, including two by knockout.
In his last fight on Oct. 1, he lost a decision in his rubber match with light heavyweight king Antonio Tarver, but said afterward that he wanted at least one more fight.
"I think it's a perfect fight for both guys," Jacobs said. "You have Hopkins, who is a legend in the middleweight division, and the same is true of Roy in the light heavyweight division. He owns the win over Hopkins and it's the right fight for both guys at this time."
Hopkins would have preferred to fight Tarver in order "to do what Sugar Ray Robinson fell one round short of, and that's win the light heavyweight title." However, Tarver is well over 200 pounds now while he is filming the movie "Rocky Balboa," and probably wouldn't be able to get into light heavyweight fighting shape by March.
Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins agreed to a March 11 rematch on HBO PPV, representatives of both fighters told ESPN.com.
Ever since Roy Jones' unanimous decision victory against Bernard Hopkins for a vacant middleweight title in 1993, there has been high interest in a rematch, and on a few occasions it was close to being solidified.
Now, 12 years later, they've finally made a deal.
ones and Hopkins agreed Friday morning to a March 11 rematch on HBO PPV, representatives of both fighters told ESPN.com.
"I think it's very exciting. Bernard is very happy about it and so is Roy. It's fantastic," said Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions, which promotes Hopkins.
"We have a deal," said Jones' adviser Brad Jacobs. "I have Richard's word that Hopkins is in. and Roy told me, 'Let's go.' Everybody reviewed what was on the table and were able to agree to it."
The deal was fairly easy to make relative to other major fights because the sides didn't bicker over the money, quickly agreeing to a 50-50 deal.
Schaefer said no site has been secured yet but that there is interest from venues in Atlanta, Memphis, Chicago and Washington (where the 1993 fight took place).
Hopkins, who was considering retirement after his second consecutive close decision loss to Jermain Taylor on Dec. 3, initially asked for a 60-40 revenue split with Jones. But Hopkins backed off in recent days, telling ESPN.com that he had spoke personally with Jones and decided that he "would do it 50-50 across the board because this fight is for history."
The fight will match two of the era's biggest stars in a 12-round light heavyweight fight that amounts to a farewell bout for both of them.
"The way we look at it is that it really is the final chapter," Schaefer said. "That might just be the name of the fight because I think both guys are tremendous legends, and each one wants to end his career with a win. It's funny that 12 years ago they fought each other and their careers after that fight took much different paths, yet they still both became legends. And here they are closing their careers against each other. I think it's a fitting end to their respective careers."
Hopkins, who turns 41 in January, promised his late mother, Shirley, before she died that he would not fight past 40, although he will put that date off by several weeks to get in his finale with Jones.
Hopkins (46-4-1, 32 KOs) lost a unanimous decision to Jones in 1993 -- all three judges scored it 116-112. But after Jones moved up in weight, Hopkins eventually claimed the middleweight title. He ruled the division for more than a decade, making a division-record 20 defenses, including knockout victories against Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, until two close decision losses to Taylor this year.
Jones (49-4, 38 KOs), who turns 37 on Jan. 16, is a former middleweight, super middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight champion. For a decade he was considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, an nearly untouchable fighter with blazing speed and power. But he has slipped recently, losing three consecutive fights, including two by knockout.
In his last fight on Oct. 1, he lost a decision in his rubber match with light heavyweight king Antonio Tarver, but said afterward that he wanted at least one more fight.
"I think it's a perfect fight for both guys," Jacobs said. "You have Hopkins, who is a legend in the middleweight division, and the same is true of Roy in the light heavyweight division. He owns the win over Hopkins and it's the right fight for both guys at this time."
Hopkins would have preferred to fight Tarver in order "to do what Sugar Ray Robinson fell one round short of, and that's win the light heavyweight title." However, Tarver is well over 200 pounds now while he is filming the movie "Rocky Balboa," and probably wouldn't be able to get into light heavyweight fighting shape by March.
Hopkins Heated at Roy Jones, Will Try To Knock Him Out
By Mark Vester
Bernard Hopkins (49-5-1, 32 KOs) never hides his feelings about Roy Jones Jr. (54-5, 40 KOs). He respects him as a fighter and dislikes him as a person. The two have never gotten along. That's why it took 16-years for the two sides to reach an agreement for a rematch of their 1993 encounter, which Jones won by decision. On Friday, an agreement was reached, and signed by both, to fight in the first quarter of 2010.
For the fight to happen, Jones has to beat IBO cruiserweight champion Danny Green on December 2 in Australia. Hopkins has been inactive since last October's win over Kelly Pavlik. He plans to take a tuneup in the first week of December. He said Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is working to finalize a tuneup fight. That means Hopkins would have to win his fight - and win without injury.
The two have tried to make a rematch in the past, several times, but they always got stuck on the split. Jones would demand 60-40. Hopkins would demand at least 50-50. Finally they agreed to 50-50 with a special twist. If either of them is able to win the fight by knockout, the split would get adjusted. The winner would get 60% and loser would only have 40%. The fight will be carried by HBO pay-per-view.
Hopkins has held a lot of bad feelings inside for a long time. He can't wait to unleash those feelings on Jones. One thing Hopkins wants to do is grab that 60% by knocking Jones out. The knockout will mean a lot to Hopkins. Hopkins still considers Jones as the only fighter to every beat him clean.
"Roy's been so loud about wanting 60 percent for all these years, let's see how bad he really wants it. I'm not a knockout artist but 60 percent is something to fight for. It's definitely extra motivation for me," Hopkins told Doug Fischer of The Ring Online. "In many ways it's a grudge match for me. I respect Roy as a fighter and what he's accomplished in the ring, but I don't like him as a person.
"He jerked me around for many years and used me, with the lure of making a rematch, just to get leverage in his negotiations for other fights. I once flew to Florida to try to get a deal done, man to man, but he didn't treat me like a man. Instead, he threw a lot of dirt in my face, and I haven't forgotten about it. That's going to get me through many long days of training with Naazim Richardson for this fight."
"And if I can knock him out, and believe me I will go for it if it presents itself, that would one-up his decision over me. Getting 60 percent would be icing on the cake."
By Mark Vester
Bernard Hopkins (49-5-1, 32 KOs) never hides his feelings about Roy Jones Jr. (54-5, 40 KOs). He respects him as a fighter and dislikes him as a person. The two have never gotten along. That's why it took 16-years for the two sides to reach an agreement for a rematch of their 1993 encounter, which Jones won by decision. On Friday, an agreement was reached, and signed by both, to fight in the first quarter of 2010.
For the fight to happen, Jones has to beat IBO cruiserweight champion Danny Green on December 2 in Australia. Hopkins has been inactive since last October's win over Kelly Pavlik. He plans to take a tuneup in the first week of December. He said Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is working to finalize a tuneup fight. That means Hopkins would have to win his fight - and win without injury.
The two have tried to make a rematch in the past, several times, but they always got stuck on the split. Jones would demand 60-40. Hopkins would demand at least 50-50. Finally they agreed to 50-50 with a special twist. If either of them is able to win the fight by knockout, the split would get adjusted. The winner would get 60% and loser would only have 40%. The fight will be carried by HBO pay-per-view.
Hopkins has held a lot of bad feelings inside for a long time. He can't wait to unleash those feelings on Jones. One thing Hopkins wants to do is grab that 60% by knocking Jones out. The knockout will mean a lot to Hopkins. Hopkins still considers Jones as the only fighter to every beat him clean.
"Roy's been so loud about wanting 60 percent for all these years, let's see how bad he really wants it. I'm not a knockout artist but 60 percent is something to fight for. It's definitely extra motivation for me," Hopkins told Doug Fischer of The Ring Online. "In many ways it's a grudge match for me. I respect Roy as a fighter and what he's accomplished in the ring, but I don't like him as a person.
"He jerked me around for many years and used me, with the lure of making a rematch, just to get leverage in his negotiations for other fights. I once flew to Florida to try to get a deal done, man to man, but he didn't treat me like a man. Instead, he threw a lot of dirt in my face, and I haven't forgotten about it. That's going to get me through many long days of training with Naazim Richardson for this fight."
"And if I can knock him out, and believe me I will go for it if it presents itself, that would one-up his decision over me. Getting 60 percent would be icing on the cake."
Bernard Hopkins: "I Will Put Roy Jones Jr. To Sleep"
By Mark Vester
Some people still can't believe it. Sixteen-years later, Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. are ready to get in the ring to fight for a second time. The first bout in May of 1993 was won by Jones via a twelve round decision to pick up the vacant IBF middleweight title. Last week they finally signed the necessary documents for a second meeting in the first quarter of 2010. Jones still has to beat IBO cruiserweight champion Danny Green on December 2 in Austalia. Hopkins plans to have a tuneup fight in Philadelphia, also on December 2.
The fighters agreed on a light heavyweight bout with 50-50 deal that includes a knockout clause. The winner, if by knockout, would receive 60% of the money, and the loser would get 40%.
Hopkins told the Philadelphia Daily News that he plans to finish Jones off by handing him another knockout loss.
"I'm willing to gamble on myself. I'm not saying I can't get knocked out, but nobody's done it yet. Roy Jones has been knocked out, twice. I'm going to put him to sleep, too," Hopkins said.
He told the paper that he doesn't want an easy tuneup either. Hopkins wants to take on someone who is willing to fight back and make him work. He plans to donate all of the money from his December bout to charity.
"I want it to be against a credible guy who will stand in there and fight back," Hopkins said.