Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran

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nhojsmith

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Hutch said:
Not quite. That would suggest that, instead of you going to jail for sitting back and watching someone beat another man to death, you would attack the perpetrator before he had the chance to beat the other man to death. In other words, you would be violent against this man when he has done nothing wrong - you would be fully at fault. I cannot justify killing someone because they might kill me, something that Israel is trying to (we have to nuke them now because if we don't, they might develop weapons later on and nuke us). That's not a justifiable argument!

Edit: By the way, the same argument can be used in favour of Iran - they may consider the development of nuclear weapons essential to the defense of their country against western interests - "If we don't develop weapons now, then the US will just walk in and take our oil". That would be very wrong in Irans eyes. It's all subjective.
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"their" "justifiable" argument would be that islam is attacking the world through oppression and terrorism (this is their hypothetical argument) and so they are being the good samaritan and saving the world from islams harm.

the fact that the same argument can be used in favor of iran is further proof that the initial claim is ridiculous, which is why i asked where would you draw the line. is hitlers mother partially responsible for the holocaust? your line of thought says yes; mine, no.
 
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nhojsmith said:
"their" "justifiable" argument would be that islam is attacking the world through oppression and terrorism (this is their hypothetical argument) and so they are being the good samaritan and saving the world from islams harm.

the fact that the same argument can be used in favor of iran is further proof that the initial claim is ridiculous, which is why i asked where would you draw the line. is hitlers mother partially responsible for the holocaust? your line of thought says yes; mine, no.
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to the first part, only the wack jobs running this country think that...and about 35-45% of the American people...the other half (the smart half) know otherwise.

not like people haven't and don't kill in the name of christianity...bush talks abotu how god tells him to do shit or he talks to god...same difference.

it doesn't mean the initial claim is ridiculous, it means that everyone being a fuck tard is ridiculous. i think you're taking the idea much too literally, which is a problem in this country (not saying you do it all the time tho)...

in regard to your hitler question, his mother would not be responsible just because she gave birth to the fucker, but if he told her, "i'm going to kill all the jews and handicapped people, and anyone else i don't like," then yeah, it would partly be that bitches fault cause he fucking told her.

i'm pretty sure you have common sense, so at least show you have some.
 
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nhojsmith said:
the fact that the same argument can be used in favor of iran is further proof that the initial claim is ridiculous, which is why i asked where would you draw the line. is hitlers mother partially responsible for the holocaust? your line of thought says yes; mine, no.
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this is the 3rd time ive noticed your line of thought focusing away from basic fundamental life rights/styles to fit your picture of a man made concept.

ex:"but not accomplishing the goal in iraq would mean it was a failure"

SO WHAT
 
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I dunno 'bout kike-bashing, I'm italian so there's a few jews in the tree. I DO know that Isreal's policy of curb-stomping their neighbors has got to stop. It's b.s. too because as u probably know, they're always able to somehow (fucking lobbyists) garner support from the U.S.. I'm not moving to Tehran anytime either though. Seems to me that this is like being the only swingin' dick in a room fulla fat feminists. No good.
 
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nhojsmith said:
"their" "justifiable" argument would be that islam is attacking the world through oppression and terrorism (this is their hypothetical argument) and so they are being the good samaritan and saving the world from islams harm.
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Well, many in the middle east claim that the US is oppressing them and terrorising them (a valid claim), so their terrorist acts against western interests are themselves justifiable. Islam is being a good samaritan and is saving the middle east from Americas and Christians harm...

nhojsmith said:
the fact that the same argument can be used in favor of iran is further proof that the initial claim is ridiculous, which is why i asked where would you draw the line. is hitlers mother partially responsible for the holocaust? your line of thought says yes; mine, no.
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That's why there is no definitive line, every example should be judged on a case by case basis. Hitlers mother is not partly responsible for the holocaust because she couldn't have known that her son was going to turn out that way. If you sell a man a gun, you know he might use it to do harm - if you give Israel nuclear weapons, you're doing so knowing full well that they'll probably use them. You shouldn't avoid having children because they may one day become evil bastards. The shady 'line' exists between these two extremes.
 
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Hutch said:
Well, many in the middle east claim that the US is oppressing them and terrorising them (a valid claim), so their terrorist acts against western interests are themselves justifiable. Islam is being a good samaritan and is saving the middle east from Americas and Christians harm...



That's why there is no definitive line, every example should be judged on a case by case basis. Hitlers mother is not partly responsible for the holocaust because she couldn't have known that her son was going to turn out that way. If you sell a man a gun, you know he might use it to do harm - if you give Israel nuclear weapons, you're doing so knowing full well that they'll probably use them. You shouldn't avoid having children because they may one day become evil bastards. The shady 'line' exists between these two extremes.
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this is getting worse and worse...

hitlers mother is not partly resonsible because she couldnt have know that he was gonna turn out that way, and then you still insist selling a man a gun you know he might use it to do harm?!?!?!? do you even read what you saying? i can just volley back and forth all day "hitlers mom knew that her son might turn out to be a bad person, there is always a possibility because certianly bad people existed before she gave birth"
 
nhojsmith

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INPUT said:
to the first part, only the wack jobs running this country think that...and about 35-45% of the American people...the other half (the smart half) know otherwise.
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OF COURSE, thats why his claim is bullshit.


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it doesn't mean the initial claim is ridiculous, it means that everyone being a fuck tard is ridiculous. i think you're taking the idea much too literally, which is a problem in this country (not saying you do it all the time tho)...
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yes i am taking his words literally, and i disagree with what he sais


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i'm pretty sure you have common sense, so at least show you have some.
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i suppose common sense constitutes agreeing with what you have to say, in which case i dont have any
 
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Hemp said:
this is the 3rd time ive noticed your line of thought focusing away from basic fundamental life rights/styles to fit your picture of a man made concept.

ex:"but not accomplishing the goal in iraq would mean it was a failure"

SO WHAT
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i challenge what people say because im critical of bullshit. "SO WHAT?" so the person who said "not accompishing the goal in iraq is not a failure" is wrong. understand?
 
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In a court of law (california for example) a person COULD be held liable for the death of someone if they had some prior knowledge of the intended act (or they could be charged with/as an accessory.)

Please people, before you go off on a tangent and type things like "absolutely not" and "correct", do a google search for "lawsuits against gun manufacturers", and after you read the results, come back and explain how sellers cannot be held liable....
 
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nhojsmith said:
i suppose common sense constitutes agreeing with what you have to say, in which case i dont have any
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nah, i actually misread something. cause what i said didn't really make sense with what you two were discussing, i missed a part...where he said that Iran might feel that Israel "could" be a thread...

I don't deal with "could" or "if" because that's not reality. I try to keep my mind on what IS going on, what IS happening, etc...rather than dealing with hypothetical situations that probably won't even come to fruition. Plus, if you only deal with situations that might happen, you're stressing out about shit that isn't going on.

I think it's more of the survival instinct, people want to do something before they are hurt because they don't/can't deal with being hurt/harmed. And that is the problem. It's like arresting someone because you THINK they MIGHT kill, rob, or rape someone.
 
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There will never be peace out there as long as Palestine is not recognized as a state as well Israel by the whole world. Its the east gainst the west. We are the at the end of days. We are all stuck in our ways. And now that we have an "open minded" generation, it's too late. My question, is there a way to turn all of this around?
 
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