Random & Lesser known facts about LA rap & culture

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about the whole lowriding thing..it really dont matter who,what or where it all got started,it's these CALIFORNIA mexicans that put that shit on the map...they're the ones publishing the magazines,doing mega-shows and tours that have made lowriding what it's been for the last few decades...they're the ones that pushed the lowriding culture throughout this country and to other countries as well.
 
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A zoot suit is a flamboyant style of clothing that became popular during the 1930s and 40s. At that time, it was associated with certain minority groups in the United States, such as Chicanos and African-Americans. The zoot suit was also associated in popular culture with youth gangs and jazz music. Today, most people think of jazz and swing culture when they hear the term zoot suit.

The zoot suit is an oversized suit, with wide-legged pants gathered at the ankles, or tramas, and a long jacket with huge shoulder pads, called a carlango. The excess amounts of fabric necessary to make a zoot suit made the style a sign of ostentation. The zoot suit is typically worn for formal occasions and often accessorized with a long watch chain on the pants, pointed shoes, and a large felt hat with a feather.

The zoot suit first arose in the African American jazz culture in Harlem, New York, and was soon adopted by minority communities in other American cities, notably Los Angeles. The term zoot suit may derive from a Mexican-American slang pronunciation of "suit." Female versions of the zoot suit also existed, though they are rarely seen today, some with knee-length skirts instead of tramas.

Wearing zoot suits became openly defiant after the style was formally banned in 1942 by the federal War Production Board, which deemed the suits wasteful of fabric. In 1943, the so-called Zoot Suit Riots erupted in Los Angeles, where the style was very popular among Mexican-American youths. Soldiers and sailors on leave began beating up anyone found in a zoot suit in East Los Angeles, the heart of the Latino community, though African-Americans and Filipino Americans were also among the victims. The military men also destroyed as many zoot suits as they could, ripping them off the wearers and burning the clothes in the streets.

Though the zoot suiters suffered the most violence in the riots, they also incurred hundreds of arrests. Only nine sailors were arrested, all but one of which were released with no penalty. The United States military responded by ruling Los Angeles off-limits to military personnel.

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In a sense, the Zoot Suit Riots cemented the popularity of the fashion as a symbol of cultural pride and a stand against racism. The first Chicano play on Broadway was Luiz Valdez' musical, Zoot Suit (1979), made into a film in 1981.

Source: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-zoot-suit.htm

Initially an African American youth fashion, closely connected to jazz culture, the zoot suit was co-opted by a generation of Mexican American kids, who made it their own.

The oversized suit was both an outrageous style and a statement of defiance. Zoot suiters asserted themselves, at a time when fabric was being rationed for the war effort, and in the face of widespread discrimination.

Zoot suits were reserved for special occasions -- a dance or a birthday party. The amount of material and tailoring required made them luxury items. Many kids wore a toned-down version of the "draped" pants or styled their hair in the signature "ducktail."

Step back into 1943 ... and find out more about zoot suit culture.

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/zoot/eng_sfeature/sf_zoot_mx.html



Hmmm, fuck what you are your black freinds have on their mantle, history is history.
 
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about the whole lowriding thing..it really dont matter who,what or where it all got started,it's these CALIFORNIA mexicans that put that shit on the map...they're the ones publishing the magazines,doing mega-shows and tours that have made lowriding what it's been for the last few decades...they're the ones that pushed the lowriding culture throughout this country and to other countries as well.
Nope blacs made lowriding popular, first with using hydraulics on Tha streets (Crenshaw 70s) then having songs like Lowrider by War, and later on by west coast rap videos.... Everybody know blacs set Tha trends
 
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Nope blacs made lowriding popular, first with using hydraulics on Tha streets (Crenshaw 70s) then having songs like Lowrider by War, and later on by west coast rap videos.... Everybody know blacs set Tha trends
Lol @ "everybody knows." Obviosly not. That's why people are arguing about it. And even though War was predominantely black, they borrowed from the Chicano culture too so that proves nothing.
 
Nov 1, 2005
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exactly..you got WAR singing CINCO DE MAYO...does that mean blacks started that too?

I met a little Spanish girl on the fifth of May
A pretty senorita, get down, she lived in east L.A.
Dial 155, the party's alive, there was magic in the air
Feet were flapping, pumping and tapping, dancing everywhere
And the people say,

Cinco de Mayo

Instrumental interlude

Home boy down the street in his low riding limousine
It's the funkiest thing on wheels that I've ever seen
you see there,he talking bout lowridiers in eastlos being the first ones he ever seen homeboy.
 
Apr 16, 2003
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black people created the internet then it got old so the mexicans picked it up and been using it ever since.

No they didn't, my mexican homie in texas was using the internet before any black person touched a computer.

The fuck you know about the internets you from Cheboygan, MI you fuckin nerd.

No I'm not Provo Utah my nig, born and raised.
 
May 2, 2009
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DAMN FOOLS ARE ALWAYS TALKING DOWN ON THE TOWN OF CHEBOYGAN. REAL G'Z ARE RIDING IN CHEBOYGAN, THEY'RE BANGED THE FUCK OUT IN CHEBOYGAN. IT'S A FUCKING WARZONE OUT THERE HOMIE, CAN'T GO A BLOCK IN CERTAIN SPOTS OF SOUTH CHEBOYGAN WITH OUT GETTING HIT UP ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND OR ROBBED. 8 GANG RELATED SHOOTINGS IN CHEBOYGAN LAST WEEK, AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO SIT THERE AND TALK....

SHIT GOES DOWN IN CHEBOYGAN
 
Feb 7, 2006
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I have heard alot of people not in the scene say lowriding is black shit, thanks to early 90's rap videos. CHicanos by far got the group with the most people into lowriding but blacks added alot to it with the switches and so on, and by introducing it to the world with west coast rap.
 
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hey dhadnot,you ever get a chance to go to the lowrider mags. shows at the LA sports arena backin the day?..that was the shit.got to see zapp,rodney-o n joe cooley,frost..the good ol days..before florencia took off on 18st and got all LMG shows taken away from LOS.


its a trip how lowrider mag pushes the whole ''lowriding started in L.A.'' thing but yet wont put 1 show here..lol..or maybe they cant cause of the whole gang thing?
 
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nah, never went, Gang shit definitely, even though I feel it would be alot chiller nowadays. but whatever everybody from LA black or mex in the industry sold us and the city out for some money and fame.
 
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exactly..you got WAR singing CINCO DE MAYO...does that mean blacks started that too?

you see there,he talking bout lowridiers in eastlos being the first ones he ever seen homeboy.
How duz it say first? Tha lyrics don't even say that....stop it sliiiiime!!

Brenton wood sing for Spanish people duz that mean he wuz influenced by them too?