RAIDERS CUT COLLINS!!!

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Chree

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ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders parted ways with quarterback Kerry Collins in a move to get them below the salary cap by Sunday night's deadline.

Kerry Collins
Quarterback
Oakland Raiders

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2005 SEASON STATISTICS
Att Comp Yds TD Int Rat
565 302 3498 20 12 77.3


By cutting Collins, the Raiders will save $9.2 million against the salary cap once bonuses are factored into the figures.

The Raiders were forced to cut Collins after the NFL and its players' union broke off talks again, failing to agree upon an elevated cap number that would have allowed teams to keep certain high-priced veterans. The team had been waiting for word on negotiations before making a final decision on Collins' future with the organization.

The 33-year-old Collins had a 7-21 record in two years as Oakland's starter and said at the end of the season he was willing to restructure his deal but would not play for "peanuts."

New coach Art Shell said when he was hired last month that he believed Collins could be a "great" quarterback for the Raiders, but the team still had to figure out what it would do with him.

The Raiders already made moves this offseason to reduce their payroll for next season. They released defensive lineman Ted Washington, offensive lineman Ron Stone and defensive back Denard Walker last week. They also declined a $10 million option for 2006 for safety Derrick Gibson. Those moves created more than $18 million in additional cap space for 2006.

Oakland also declined to use a franchise tag on Charles Woodson, who made $10.537 million last season.

The Raiders scored only 51 points, with just six touchdowns, in their final five games and lost their last six overall and eight of nine despite an offense featuring Collins, Randy Moss, LaMont Jordan and Jerry Porter. At 4-12, they finished with one fewer victory than in fired coach Norv Turner's first season a year ago.

Perhaps the most glaring statistic is Oakland's failure to win a division game for the first time since owner Al Davis came aboard in 1963 to coach and eventually own the team. The Raiders went 1-11 against the AFC West during Turner's two seasons.

Collins started the season well, but couldn't maintain any consistency. He completed 302 passes for 3,759 yards -- his most since 2002 with the Giants -- and 20 touchdowns. He also was sacked 39 times and threw 12 interceptions.
 

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^ for once, i agree with u, now, just hope they dont resign him, im actually really worried for SF, i really hope he aint the veteran qb brought in lol, ill take Jeff Garcia over collins
 
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Solitary 1 said:
NEITHER.


WATCH AND SEE.

oh that's right they're getting Brees....lol

who else you think they gonna get? Mcnair got locked up, pennington got locked up....you want Griese...hahaha

Or how about overpay for Daunte Culpepper, and have no defense and squabbles all season with Moss?
 
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Solitary 1 said:
TYPICAL BRONCO FAN HATRED.
no seriously rivalry aside..who you think or who do you want them to get? all the decent qb's are either locked up, hurt, or wouldn't do good in that system. You can have Brooks...I'm sure you wouldn't want that though.

serious question, who do you think they could get?
 
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shaun king and Simms even signed already...there are no qbs out there.


You can have Maddox or Kitna. Seriously Brees is the best option and that is not saying much with him being hurt right now.
 
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ESCOBAR 92113 said:
heres a ?-im not good with numbers or contracts but if the cut collins to get below the salary cap, how much could they offer a free agent?
well they will be anouncing more cuts in the next few hours as the deadline was an hour ago...and they can restructure other contracts.

They will have enough money for a qb, but then the D will still be shit. That team is in bad hape, they need a QB and D help both but with the money available they will have to settle for a bunch of scraps and only 1 decent player at 1 position.

But Raider fan will say I am just being a dumb Bronco fan without actually looking at the state of thier team first. It sometimes is funny when a rival knows more about your team than a real "fan" does.

That team will not be a threat for 2 to 3 years unless they draft out thier ass this year!
 
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thascary1 said:
no seriously rivalry aside..who you think or who do you want them to get? all the decent qb's are either locked up, hurt, or wouldn't do good in that system. You can have Brooks...I'm sure you wouldn't want that though.

serious question, who do you think they could get?


I WOULDN'T RULE ANYTHING OUT. REMEMBER THAT WHILE AL MIGHT MAKE SOME HUGE MISTAKES.. HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO GAMBLE ON A SEASONED PLAYE-MAKER AND WIN BIG, (EX: ROD WOODSON IN 2002.) REMEMBER THAT? LOL...I'M SURE YOU DO.......

THAT BEING SAID.. WHO KNOWS? WE COULD CONCEIVABLY GO FOR YOUNG OR EVEN BREES OR CULLPEPPER. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SIGN ANOTHER JOURNEYMAN AT QB. I BELIEVE AL LEARNED HIS LESSON. BUT HE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG BEFORE...
 
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Solitary 1 said:
I WOULDN'T RULE ANYTHING OUT. REMEMBER THAT WHILE AL MIGHT MAKE SOME HUGE MISTAKES.. HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO GAMBLE ON A SEASONED PLAYE-MAKER AND WIN BIG, (EX: ROD WOODSON IN 2002.) REMEMBER THAT? LOL...I'M SURE YOU DO.......

THAT BEING SAID.. WHO KNOWS? WE COULD CONCEIVABLY GO FOR YOUNG OR EVEN BREES OR CULLPEPPER. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SIGN ANOTHER JOURNEYMAN AT QB. I BELIEVE AL LEARNED HIS LESSON. BUT HE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG BEFORE...
I hear what your saying but like your post says all that available is maybe Brees or Young, and slim chance of Culpepper.

Brees-----injury and arm strength are huge question marks
Culpepper---Moss and Culp...need we say more as it worked so well the first time.
Young---unproven, and not accurate on the deep ball. He may have looked good in college but his competition was the big 12...sorry I am a CU fan born and raised in Colorado..but there was no competition for him all year.
 
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^That Melo jam is raw....
Im cool with giving Walter a chance. He played great in pre-season last year...He looked calm and poised in the pocket even when under pressure and was able to avoid sacks and make plays. He's got a strong, accurate throw too...the only thing I worry about him is his injury problems. If it weren't for injuries in college he probally wouldn't of made it past the 1st round.

"ASU CAREER: Finished his career as one of the top quarterbacks in school history...set almost every Arizona State career and single-season record for passing and total offense...shattered the Pac-10 career touchdown record with 85, breaking the 22-year-old mark held by John Elway who had 77 career TD passes at Stanford (1979-82)...also finished fifth on the Pac-10's career charts for passing yards (10,617 yards) and third for total offense (10,142 yards)...bested Jake Plummer's ASU career passing marks of 8,827 yards and 65 touchdowns by 1,790 yards and 20 TDs...finishes his career as ASU's career leading in passing yards, completions, attempts, touchdowns, interception percentage and total offense...played in 48 career games with 35 starts...is the only player in school history to tally 3,000 passing yards in a season, turning in the top three single-season efforts in school history in his last three years...threw four or more touchdown passes in 10 career games...also had 14 300-yard games in his career, including eight with 400 yards or more...turned in at least 200 yards passing in 26 of his 35 career starts...is the just the sixth quarterback in the Pac-10 to throw for 10,000 career yards...holds the top three marks on ASU's single-season lists for passing yards, attempts and completions and three of the top four efforts for touchdowns and total offense, including the school record in both category...ended up second among the NCAA's active career leaders for passing touchdowns and sixth in career passing yards...turned in an 18-17 record as ASU's starting quarterback...possesses one of the strongest arms in the country...team leader who was voted a co-captain in each of his last three seasons at ASU...earned his undergraduate degree prior to his senior year. "

From http://thesundevils.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/walter_andrew00.html
 
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thx...I might try to get another Melo Jam from the game lastnight.


I agree Walters could be good, but there will still be the learning curve, he will not be much next year, which could hurt free agent signings later.

That's the good and bad of the NFL right now. While there is a good qb in the wings it takes time to devolpe them, but players are looking to win now and sometimes skip teams for this matter.

sad but true.