QUIT SUPPORTIN THAT BULLSHIT!! (IF YOU REALLY LOVE HIP HOP, READ THIS)

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Nov 23, 2006
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imo, this is exactly what is wrong...


i am not taking a shot at you because i do not know you. i am voicing my opinion and using your statement as an exmple.
I DONT SEE YOUR POINT, PLEASE EXPLAIN....... AND FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL TRIPPIN OFF THE CAPS LOCK, IT DONT MATTER IF I TYPE LIKE THIS OR like this, i could be typing in fucking arabic, the meaning behind what i write is still coming from the soul. one love.
 

Reegz

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I feel this thread Dregs. Don't be afraid to be an individual. Of course as an artist I would like more people to be interested in my music but when its all said and done, I don't have time to try to convert everybody and they momma to what Im rockin out. If you're more into monotonous bullshit than whats really goin on, you aint my fan base anyway, and Im alright with that. And as far as folks using rappin about whatevers hot right now cause they say they tryna feed they fam is wack. You still eatin the devils pie either way you look at it. If you aint in tha game already makin money off tha music, and you just tryna get your foot in now, get you a job or a hustle to feed your fam. Make money to make music, dont make music to make money. Thats just my 2 pennies.
 
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Good read... A lot of people do music to get rich so a lot of cats are searching for that one song thats going to blow them up and let them get that tour money for a couple years. It's sad but thats a formula a lot of cats are using mainly down south. If you can make music you feel and proud of with the people in mind you should be good. If you have the talent
 
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@DREGGS YEA THIS THREAD'S GOOD! UR ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT EACH PERSON DEFINES THERE OWN DEFINITION OF SUCCESS! N YES IM AWARE THAT N THE VIDEOS MOST CARS N HOMES R RENTED! FEMALES 2!! HA HA! N UR RIGHT, I REMEMBER LISTEN 2 KRS-1 BDP WAS HELLA GANGSTA N HIP-HOP! BUT I THINK RAP NOW IS DIFFERENT, ITS A GENRE WIT HELLA SUB-GENRES N IT. BUT HEY SMALL POINT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. BUT I BELIEVE ARTISTS SHOULD STAY TRUE TO WHO THEY ARE! I LIKE LOTS OF DIFFERENT ARTISTS, DRAKE IS COOL TO ME CUZ HE DOES HIMSELF. I LIKE JACKA CUZ I KNOW HE LIVEN WHAT HE TALKIN BOUT! WHOEVER THE ARTIST IS AS LONG AS THEY KEEP IT REAL IMA GIVE UM A LISTEN! THOSE WERE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES U PUT UP FOR UNDERGROUND ARTISTS DOIN THERE THANG! INSANE CLOWN POSSE ALSO GOT THERE MERCHANDISEN SHIT TOGETHER! ALL N ALL GOOD DISCUSSION!! OH YEA 1 MORE THANG MY FOLKS N ME CHOPPED THIS UP B4 WHAT YALL THINK? MY OPINION IS WE DONT DO HIP-HOP (THE MAJORITY OF UR FAVORITE RAPPERS IE JACKA MESSY MARV ECT.) IN THE BAY ITS NOT R CULTURE FOR LACC OF A BETTER WORD! AS ON THE EAST COAST THERE BROUGHT UP ON THE CIPHERS N BATTLEN N ALL THAT HIP-HOP STUFF?????





ITS CHILL SCRILL BABY!!!!
 
Dec 2, 2006
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I DONT SEE YOUR POINT, PLEASE EXPLAIN....... AND FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL TRIPPIN OFF THE CAPS LOCK, IT DONT MATTER IF I TYPE LIKE THIS OR like this, i could be typing in fucking arabic, the meaning behind what i write is still coming from the soul. one love.
my point is sitting at home smoking doobies instead of being out in traffic promoting and selling yourself is not going to make you or anyone else. the music industry requires dedication and hard work like it is a job. part timing anything wont cut it in the independent music industry. that million dollar spot doesnt crack unless someone is out there making it crack.

again i am speaking in general, not about you personally.

the post i propped you was on point.
 
Nov 23, 2006
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OH YEA 1 MORE THANG MY FOLKS N ME CHOPPED THIS UP B4 WHAT YALL THINK? MY OPINION IS WE DONT DO HIP-HOP (THE MAJORITY OF UR FAVORITE RAPPERS IE JACKA MESSY MARV ECT.) IN THE BAY ITS NOT R CULTURE FOR LACC OF A BETTER WORD! AS ON THE EAST COAST THERE BROUGHT UP ON THE CIPHERS N BATTLEN N ALL THAT HIP-HOP STUFF?????
NAH I DISAGREE ON THAT TIP... THE BAY AREA IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CENTERS OF HIP HOP IN THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST GRAFFITI SCENES OUT THERE, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE DOPE DJS AND B-BOYS/DANCERS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE BAY. ASK SOME OF THE OG'S WHAT KIND OF HIP-HOP THEY CAME UP LISTENING TOO. EVEN MY NIGGA HUGH EMC, WHO WAS ON SOME STRAIGHT GANGSTA SHIT, IS A HUGE HIP-HOP HEAD. ON THE OTHER SIDE I KNOW SOME STRAIGHT UP HIP-HOP STYLE RAPPERS WHO ARE FROM THE HOOD AND HAVE DONE PLENTY OF DIRT IN THEIR LIFETIME.

I THINK A BIG PROBLEM IN THE BAY IS THESE TWO GENRES NOT MIXING IT UP WITH EACH OTHER ENOUGH. SOME OF THESE HIP HOP ACTS ACT LIKE THEYRE TOO GOOD FOR THE MOB SCENE, SOME OF THESE MOB RAPPERS WANNA ACT LIKE THE HIP HOP HEADS ARE ON SOME GAY SHIT.

A LOT OF CATS IN THE BAY INCLUDING MYSELF WERE BROUGHT UP ON FREESTYLING AND GRAFFITI AND ALL THAT HIP-HOP SHIT! MY LIFE WAS CHANGED FOREVER WHEN I WENT OVER TO MY HOMEBOYS HOUSE IN 8TH GRADE AND PEEPED HIS TURNTABLES AND RECORDS.

THE BAY IS HOME TO DJ QBERT/INVISBLE SKRATCH PICKLEZ, HIERO/SOULS OF MISCHIEF/DEL THE FUNKY HOMOSAPIEN, ZION-I, BORED STIFF/EQUIPTO, GROUCH/MYSTIK JOURNEYMEN/LIVING LEGENDS, PARIS, TOPR/EARTHLINGS, DAN THE AUTOMATER, SAAFIR/HOBO JUNCTION, BOMB HIP-HOP RECORD LABEL, BLACKALICOUS, CHARIZMA & PEANUT BUTTER WOLF, AND MORE... SOME OF THESE CATS HAVE BEEN PUTTING IT DOWN WORLDWIDE FOR THE BAY AREA BEFORE MESSY AND JACKA WERE EVEN RAPPING. AND THEY MOVE UNITS INTERNATIONALLY. SO I THINK BOTH SIDES NEED TO CLICK UP. THAT WILL ONLY MAKE THE BAY STRONGER. I THINK MISTAH FAB AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT SAN QUINN AND THE JACKA HAVE REALLY BEEN THE ONLY CATS TO DO THIS....

 
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I feel this thread Dregs. Don't be afraid to be an individual. Of course as an artist I would like more people to be interested in my music but when its all said and done, I don't have time to try to convert everybody and they momma to what Im rockin out. If you're more into monotonous bullshit than whats really goin on, you aint my fan base anyway, and Im alright with that. And as far as folks using rappin about whatevers hot right now cause they say they tryna feed they fam is wack. You still eatin the devils pie either way you look at it. If you aint in tha game already makin money off tha music, and you just tryna get your foot in now, get you a job or a hustle to feed your fam. Make money to make music, dont make music to make money. Thats just my 2 pennies.
@DREGS - I RESPECT THIS POST SO MUCH BRO. NICE.
RIGHT ON YALL, IM GLAD SOME OF MY FELLOW ARTISTS CAN FEEL WHERE I'M COMING FROM.... MAKE MONEY TO MAKE MUSIC, DONT MAKE MUSIC TO MAKE MONEY, THATS WHAT IT IS!!!!
 
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my point is sitting at home smoking doobies instead of being out in traffic promoting and selling yourself is not going to make you or anyone else. the music industry requires dedication and hard work like it is a job. part timing anything wont cut it in the independent music industry. that million dollar spot doesnt crack unless someone is out there making it crack.

again i am speaking in general, not about you personally.

the post i propped you was on point.
HAHA, OKAY, THIS IS TRUE I KNOW CATS IN THEIR 30S WHO HAVE BEEN GRINDING FOR OVER A DECADE STILL TRYING TO GET IN THE GAME THAT SPEND MOST THEIR TIME DRINKING AND SMOKING AND FUCKIN AROUND IN THE STREETS.... BUT THAT AINT ME POTNA!!! HAHAAAAA!!!!
 
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Some random thoughts:

Corporate influence has geared popular Hip Hop toward young/teenage children. Young/teenage children want to fit in, are easily influenced, and are mesmorized by nice cars, drugs and alcohol, nice clubs and nice clothes. This is mainly because young kids can't drive, can't drink, can't get in clubs, and don't have money to buy nice clothing. When they get older, they have new experiences. They worry less about fitting in. They aren't easily influenced. And by the time they reach adulthood, they are no longer mesmorized by nice cars, drugs, nice clubs, and nice clothes because they will experience that. In fact, as they get older they will probably begin gearing their income toward their children, and at that point the cycle of life repeats itself.

As people mature, the "Hip Hop" lifestyle becomes more comical and comical. Throwing hundreds of dollars at strippers, buying nice cars and rims, having a hat to match every oversized 6XL screenprint shirt you have, smoking weed with your boys in your car listening to your favorite artist like its a man date, saying YADADAMEAN and yelling ERRAY or Hey Yo Bitch Was Up at women doesn't take a person anywhere further than their block. So as people think for themselves and outgrow what they thought was cool, they choose their own direction.

In Hip Hop sales, what this has created in my opinion is less skilled and respected top artists, but very much appreciated and supremely skilled smaller artists like Techn9ne, Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, Devin the Dude, Jacka, etc. Hip Hop turns into fine wines or microbrews. Nobody older than 21 buys Budweiser anymore. Not when they can have Corona or Anchor Steam or a hefeweizen or something like that. So maybe Jacka and Atmosphere are both great artists to me, but maybe I like Corona AND Anchor Steam . They’re both good but they don’t appeal to everyone. So maybe you only like one of them. Mature consumers split their money between hundreds of up-and-coming or underground rappers. The young spend their money on what they see or hear, which is Budweiser. So Budweiser sells more than Corona and Anchor Steam, but that doesn’t mean the world forgets about having a good beer!