Question for my fellow Bay Area Producers

[B.C.]

First off, I do both. I rock out on the keys if I'm in the mood for that...or bust out flipping samples if I'm in the mood for that.

Secondly, lotta people saying sampling is coo if it is done right, but what I say is any beat is coo if it is done right. So many Bay "producers" think they're Triton beats are the shit, but they sound like playskool doo doo. On the other hand, so many jackasses think they "produce" hiphop cuz they looped a played out sample and added some weak ass drums. There is good and bad with both, simple as that!

The main misconception with sampling is that many people don't know how to do it properly. Finding a corny, played out loop...and then adding drums is doing an injustice to everyone. People need to quit Diddy looping their shit! The average fan/person and many "producers" do not understand (nor can they execute) the concept of chopping a sample, then rearranging and layering it to your tastes. To say sampling is a cop out is unfair...tell that to someone like DJ Premier, someone who meticulously chops specific sounds and phrases and composes totally NEW music out of it. Lots of "producers" just don't know how to flip a sample and create something new out of it. On top of that, muh fuckas don't know how to utilize filters, oscilators, envelopes, effects, etc etc...

I mean with the synth beats...you got people with no musical ear whatsoever making what they think is tight. Too many toys pressing down on keys with they vienna sausage fingers, generating a whole lotta noise and not enough music. Then, like I mentioned before, there's the busters with their MPCs and generic ass loops.

I don't care if someone samples or someone makes synth beats, just make sure your shit sounds tight. I appreciate good music, and I hope most people do too. I can get down to a DJ Quick beat just as much as I can get down to a DJ Premier beat. (And I don't care what anyone says, making a beat from scratch is way harder...but at the same time, don't think just beacause you do that, you are good.)

I agree with you on that one. Thanks for breaking it down.

 

[AL JIEH]

Al Jieh....U hit the nail on the head homie....Good post

Right on, I'm just chiming in with my opinion like everyone else. And don't nobody start catchin feelings, cuz I aint talking about no one in particular. (Unless you are wack, in which case...yes, I'm talking about you.)

 

[dj pimp]

wheres mike mosley and sam bostic when u need em.

 

[AL JIEH]

wheres mike mosley and sam bostic when u need em.

For real. As a matter of fact, what are they working on as of late? Those two have classic cuts under their belts...

 

[Mr.Mobb]

I ain't a producer. But I like samples and I like to hear how producers use the same sample as another producer and just flip it and come up with their own version.

 

[dj pimp]

For real. As a matter of fact, what are they working on as of late? Those two have classic cuts under their belts...

there's talk of a mike mosley, sam bostic reunion. that shit would be dope. mosley is CEO of steady mobbin and is workin with the dopest producers in the bay, BC, ASSASSIN, VERSATYLE and MURDOC

 

[ando]

there is a bit of samplin and i think its doin good.

 

[Big Ice]

Personally i just like that good old classic mobb shit without any samples in it. That Jay-Z and Kanye West stuff is played out already and sounds horrible to me! I would rather just kick back and listen to some E-40 heat from back in the days like Da Bumble or Sideways or some other legendary beats like that that no one produces anymore.

However, if you end up using a sample, then please do something creative with it than just loop an 8 bar song and rap over it. Add some West Coast sounds and create some own cords to it, and make it all original and sick!

It's about time for a new Bay-Funk Era with some mobbed up production and crystal clear sound to it. All these releases coming out nowadays are laggin'. I wanna hear a 187 He Wrote or Black'n Dangerous in 2005.

Big Ice A Lot a.k.a. Big IceIcle

 

[Home-E]

I've only used samples in a couple of my beats, and thats because they were samples that have never been used before. I also made the beat my own by getting down on the keys. I think when you sample, you gotta make it your own by playing the keys in conjunction with the sample. Personally I dont like to use samples too much, because when I make a beat completely on my own on the keyboard without using samples, i just feel a greater sense of pride because i made every aspect of that beat. When i sample i feel like I am taking someone else's work and just flipping it. No matter how much you chop up a sample, its still someone else's work that your using. Thats why I prefer not to use samples too much. If you wanna check out some dope beats that have no samples, click here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=247156 Feedback is appreciated. One question, I play all my drums on the keyboard, who here uses a drum machine/sequencer? Oh, and I have no respect for Pre-Made loops, no skill in using loops.

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

anythings better then the 3 sounds per track hyphy bullshit

 

[B.C.]

I just wanna be able to make good original music and 20 or 30 years from now have some producer sample my music.

 

[Home-E]

those hyphy beats are annoying...

 

[Solitary 1]

Wuddup BC. I personally don't even trip on samples. I feel that you got to get in "The Door" somehow, by any means necessary. RHYTHMX/FYADept/Pharmaceuticals/$ickWid'It Records BORN AND RAISED IN FAIRFIELD, CA 94533. est.1969

RYTHM! WHAT IS IT MAN? I MET YOU IN BERKELY AT THE STUDIO WIT DOXX A COUPLE YEARS BACK. HOW IT'S COMIN MAYNERD?

INTEGRATING MIDI, LIVE INSTRUMENTS AND SAMPLING IS THE SHIT.
ORGINAL MELODIES ARE DOPE BUT WHEN YOU ADD IN A NICE LIL SAMPLE THAT FITS, IT JUST GIVES THE BEAT A TEXTURE THAT HARD TO ACHIEVE WITH JUST KEYBOARDS!!

THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT........