Preaching the prosperity gospel

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Forget damnation. Joel Osteen wants you to be happy, healthy and wealthy.

By John Frankel
Joel Osteen says his ministry has never been about the money. But the Houston preacher's "prosperity gospel" has struck a chord among the 61% of American Christians who tell pollsters they believe God wants them to be financially prosperous.

"The debate about God and wealth is big and it's getting bigger," says David Van Biema, co-author of this week's cover story in Time magazine titled "Does God Want You to Be Rich?"

Van Biema says the debate is being propelled, at least in part, by Osteen's book, 'Your Best Life Now.' "That book really took the whole question of what's known as prosperity gospel out of a little subculture of evangelicalism and put it out there for everybody," he says.

As pastor of Lakewood Church, Osteen has attracted one of the nation's biggest congregations. And with his best-selling book and regular appearances on religious broadcasts, Osteen is considered the "most watched preacher" in America.

Religious traditionalist shudder at what they see as the materialism behind the message, but that hasn't deterred Osteen's faithful, 40,000 of whom flock each weekend to nondenominational services in a converted NBA arena.

"Yes, I believe God wants us to succeed and excel," says the boyish and soft-spoken son of a Pentecostal preacher. "That doesn't mean we're all going to be millionaires or that you're going to be the president of your company. But I believe God wants you to rise higher than your parents."

Success has come quickly for the 43-year-old Osteen and his wife, Victoria. Osteen was operating cameras in the Houston church where his father preached at the time of his father's death from a heart attack, in 1999. Osteen, who didn't finish college and never attended seminary, says there was no doubt that he'd succeed his father as senior pastor.

The younger Osteen's message of positive thinking and living was apparently just what the congregation wanted.

The church had 6,000 congregants and an annual budget of $10 million when Osteen took over. In the seven years since, the budget has ballooned to $75 million. Weekly collections bring in $1 million, and another $20 million arrives each year in the mail.

The income allowed the church last summer to take on a 30-year lease and allocate more than $90 million to renovate the former Compaq Center where the Houston Rockets used to play.

"I'm just overwhelmed by it," Osteen says of his meteoric success. "I tell Victoria all the time -– you know, we don't feel any different -- but, you know what, this is something unusual happening. I just believe that faith in America is at an all-time high and that God's just doing big things."

His weekly TV broadcast is the "No. 1 inspirational program nationally," according to his Web site. But the big bucks come from books. "Your Best Life Now," published by Warner Faith, has been a best-seller since 2004. Osteen has signed a book deal with Free Press, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, that could bring him more than $10 million for a follow-up.

Investing in the message

The proceeds from his writings allowed Osteen to stop taking his $200,000-a-year salary from the church.

"I'm glad that people are willing to invest in this message," Victoria Osteen says of the 4 million or so buyers of "Your Best Life Now." "And I believe this (as-yet-untitled) book is going to be even greater than his first book."

The new book will no doubt help the Lakewood Church bookstore expand on its $3.5 million in annual sales. But the Osteens say that's not why the follow-up book is being written.

"We know, like anybody else, to use the media, to use every avenue that we can to reach the public," Joel Osteen says.

Osteen is certainly savvy about marketing. It was he who first put his father's sermons on TV. Lakewood Church today features a state-of-the-art production wing that allows Osteen's can-do message to be seen in every U.S. market and in 150 other countries.

Osteen has done more than anyone to spread the prosperity gospel into the Christian mainstream, says journalist Van Biema. His article in Time cites a recent survey that found 61% of American Christians believe God wants them to be financially prosperous. "The more shocking finding from the study is that 31% of Christians think that if you give God money now He will return it to you later, in spades, so to speak," Van Biema says.

"That really is not part of standard, orthodox Christianity," adds Van Biema. "There had been some brakes on (Christianity) moving toward materialism, but those brakes are gradually being released and you're seeing more and more people saying 'Well, why wouldn't God want us to be rich in this lifetime.'"

"When Christianity becomes as materialistic as the culture at large then you lose that counterweight, and there's really not as much holding it back, so that seems a little bit dismaying," Van Biema says.
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the underlined part...is one of my biggest problems with anyone that calls themself a preacher/priest/prophet/ etc..

what do you all think?

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Well, I for one have a problem with the prosperity doctrine, but I don't have a problem with the underlined part. His dad was on the way out, and if a person is truly called by God they don't need school and all those degrees. However, where is the money going to? Are they redistributing the money amongst ALL of the congregation? Are they distributing the money amongst the elderly, the widows, the orphans and the homeless?
 
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^^thats right...

Anyone can say God called them to be a preacher..
anyone.

I dont like that...Cause i myself have sat in a congregation ...and thought.."This fool has no idea what he's doing"..

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^^ Well, I've thought "This fool has no idea what he's doing" for like 99.999999% of the sermons I've had to sit through. Yes, ANYONE can say "I'm a preacher" or "I'm called by God", but the truth is the majority are NOT. The title of "preacher" or "prophet" comes with a lot of responsibility, but it seems that the majority of the so-called preachers and prophets have traded this responsibility for prestige and riches. These people claim to be these things, but they don't understand that they will be held accountable for all the stuff they preached and taught, and if people were led astray because of it they will have to answer for it.

Do I feel all churches are bad? No because some people NEED leadership or they NEED to fellowship with others so they don't stumble. However, I feel in this time and age, the so-called church is so corrupt that people need to actually LEAVE and hold church inside their homes or with close friends. People need to get back to reading the bible for THEMSELVES instead of listening to Pastor Paul, and people need to allow the Holy Spirit to teach them instead of taking Pastor Pauls word as 100% truth.
 
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If you have the TBN Channel the Majority of those Pastor only have one Agenda, to get money and blind fold people into falling into their Trap i.e Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Oral Roberts and his Son, Jack Van Impe, John Hagee, and many Super Televangelists. All teach the corrupted Doctrine of the Rapture, and I'm pretty sure many other televangelists are in it for more then money, but some actually tryto teach people they're way of Salvation, but it hurts people more then it actually helps a person. I agree with you Heresy, people should start their own little congregations at home, and it doesn't necessarily have to be BIG, My grandfather God Bless his soul, went around the World with Just his Bible, and they sang Hymns, there were no Instruments and what ever you could give to the ministry it was well appreciated. I am no Prophet nor am I a certified Pastor, but I feel bad for all these people who believe that these Televagelists can lead them into True Salvation.

Many of these Super Evengelists, rather preach about Healing IE Peter Popoff then actual Scripture which is sad because, many watching or those in Live attendance will be brain washed into thinking all you need to do is go to his show, or give him 20 dollars for his miracle spring water then you can have anything you desire. I remember my Good Samoan Seventh Day Adventist homie named Oliver, he told me something that sticks to my mind, The Lord gives you what you need, and not all the time what you want.
 
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There's also another thing these Televangelist also Preach, that we all have God within us, not to say our body is his Temple, but to say that we have similarities to his power. They will say we are Mini-God, and that because those who attend their church or pray what they pray are exempt from his Judgement and will use Isaiah 1:18 for there so called "Holiness". Sad aint it?
 
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HERESY said:
^^ Well, I've thought "This fool has no idea what he's doing" for like 99.999999% of the sermons I've had to sit through. Yes, ANYONE can say "I'm a preacher" or "I'm called by God", but the truth is the majority are NOT. The title of "preacher" or "prophet" comes with a lot of responsibility, but it seems that the majority of the so-called preachers and prophets have traded this responsibility for prestige and riches. These people claim to be these things, but they don't understand that they will be held accountable for all the stuff they preached and taught, and if people were led astray because of it they will have to answer for it.

Do I feel all churches are bad? No because some people NEED leadership or they NEED to fellowship with others so they don't stumble. However, I feel in this time and age, the so-called church is so corrupt that people need to actually LEAVE and hold church inside their homes or with close friends. People need to get back to reading the bible for THEMSELVES instead of listening to Pastor Paul, and people need to allow the Holy Spirit to teach them instead of taking Pastor Pauls word as 100% truth.

agreed.

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