Peace Thru Strength

[Pimperoni]

I got this from my uncle..... thought it was very insightful so I'm passing it onto BART..... no need to reply, just let it slide thru


>The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming
> about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming
> the President and his Cabinet every chance they get with names like
> "stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a
> crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an
> American.
>
> So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country?
> Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic"
> leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:
>
> President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale
> University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an
> F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard.
>
> &! gt; Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B. A. in 1965 and a M. A.
in 1966,
> both in political science.
>
> Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public
> schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he
> earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. His further academic
> achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from
> George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of
> numerous U. S. and foreign military awards and decorations.
>
> Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on
> Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U. S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval
> aviator.
>
> Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class
> family in veterans' public housing in Erie, he earned a scholarship! to
> Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The
> Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U. S. Army, where he
> served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star
> for Valor.
>
> National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree
> in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University
> of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in
> 1975; and her Ph. D. from the Graduate School of International Studies
> at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the
> University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a
> Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude).
>
> So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their
> experience?
>
> ! Barbra Streisand : Completed high school. Career: Singing and acting
>
> Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting
>
> Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting
>
> Jessica Lange: Dropped out of college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting
>
> Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington. Career: Acting
>
> Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting
>
> Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting
>
> Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in
> Washington, D. C. Career: Acting
>
> Ed Asner: Completed High school. Career: Acting
>
> George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting
>
> Michael Moore: Dropped out first year Uni! versity of Michigan. Career:
> Movie Director
>
> Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting
>
> Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting
>
> Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting
>
> Janeane Garofalo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne
>
> Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting
>
> While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we
> should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed
> daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security.
> They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the
> Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and
> terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant com! munication
> with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own
> military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply
> believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch
> CNN. We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our
> leaders.
>
> These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding
> groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our
> country. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton
> bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked
> the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get
> Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held.
> When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives
> were lost, not a peep was! heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our
> nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were
> killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine
> lives, they hold rallies against the war.
>
> It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate
> ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to
> enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever
> to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear
> of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this
> nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy
> us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.
>
> Yes, it's a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists
> and join hands, talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not
> stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by
> simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, and with strength
> and determination defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy
> did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in
> Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action and threat of
> immediate war. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended
> because of the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan...PEACE through
> STRENGTH.

 

[Doxx]

I do agree that it's silly to name call.

But, I also stand firm that going to college doesn't make you any smarter than anyone else and not going to college/dropping out doesn't make you any stupider than anyone else.

Some of the smartest people I know never spent a day in college.

 

[Pimperoni]

Good point Doxx....

Yeah that part of it is kind of overkill, the part of it that you can't deny is that most of these people in power have millitary experience and although there are plenty of smart people that didn't go to a day of school, it's hard to graduate from Harvard if you're an idiot. Plus it's their day to day job to be informed of whats going on. They have all the information....... before it gets to a reporter (who can report it how they want) to us on the 6 o clock news. I don't wanna get too crazy in here because I know everyone gets pissed off about "non-rap" posts, but there's too many people that think they know what's going on by just watching the news at night.

I support our leaders and troops 100%

 

[sav-man]

Good shit, Pimperoni--that was VERY interesting and insightful!

I'll bet that most of the actors and actresses on that list wouldn't last a day if they were forced into ground combat themselves!
A good many of those people are grade-A flakes as far as human beings go:

Julia Roberts flits from man to man and won't stick with one--and gets all fussed up when people call her out on it. She's also a pain in the ass in interviews--she was once told a PEOPLE interviewer, "let's change the subject. this is boring." Let the interviewer be the judge of that! "Change the subject" my ass...
Another time, she accused a ROLLING STONE interviewer of asking "weird" questions, whatever that means...

Jeanne Garafolo was a regular on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE ('94/'95) and constantly bitched about how it was a "boy's club" and that all the writers cared about was "low-brow" farting and masturbation-type macho jokes. Which they often do, but WHAT THE HELL DID SHE EXPECT? This woman needs an orgasm or something to get rid of her misplaced rage...

Barbara Streisand--my aunt told me that this piece of work refused to be on Rosie O' Donnell's talk show unless the crew members switched the set, because she had to be seen from the left side of her face. Worse, O' Donnell and crew gave in!

Cher--more nose jobs than Michael Jackson (and what was she thinking when she did that horrible album with Gregg Allman?) 'Nuff said.

Alec Baldwin--made a stupid radio commercial around '95 urging people to give up meat for Valentine's Day ("you can kick the meat habit", he said). He (and ex-wife Kim Basinger) constantly bitched about circuses allegedly mistreating animals, and when someone called him on it, he got all threatening and was like, "come here and say that, you faggot, blah blah blah..." I guess freedom of speech doesn't go for those who disagree with him, uh?

Well, I could go on, but I'll stop. Like Doxx said, going to college and getting a degree doesn't necessarily make you any smarter than anyone else, and I agree. But I think the main lesson to be learned from this is that many of these celebrities are most likely only doing this for their own self-aggrandizement. Their goal is not to get people to change their minds about the war, but rather to get people to pay attention to THEM AS STARS. The article does a good job in showing that actors and actresses should be enjoyed for work IN THEIR FIELD, which is ACTING. They are hardly political spokespeople. PEACE!

 

[B-12]

nice post. glad to see some deep thought on here.

 

[Doxx]

I feel you Pimperoni.

I will say that Bush's "military experience" is very questionable and up for debate.

 

[Game Warden]

I heard this from 560 KSFO about the educationof the actors. I check out that conservative statin because I like to hear what people are thinking. I like to get all sides, plus, I'm SICK of democrats treating my people like little stupid kids. Republicans aren't really much better, either. But dude on 560 "michael savage" KILLS me. It's hilarious. Plus, it always reminds me that there is no love lost out there.
I have surmised that this country is too broke, in a war, and has too much loss off life to be caring about the travails of the little man. People don't give a fuck because everybody has their own problems. Stock market crashed. Life savings gone. People have kids at war.... there is no sympathy for minorities. Believe that, Everybody is on their own right now. Your plan has to be precise, whether it's in music, education or whatever.

I look at that list of actors and gie them crdit for doin the DAMN thing. HIgh school degrees and they are pulling more money than most of us put together...PLUS Colin Powel and OCndoleeza rice. Give credit where credit is due.... but they do presume too much when they try to become ambassadors and dont know what the fuck they are talking about.

 

[M.O.B. Boss]

nice post. glad to see some deep thought on here.

However........

Jesus: learned carpentry from pops Career: God's Son

Also, there are Congress men/women who have comparable college resumes (I assume) who are against the war. I'm not going to say that college means nothing, but it sure as hell doesn't mean everything.

 

[Da Yayologist]

Good post, Pimperoni.

 

[hipho[1389]

bush only got dat degree cuz of his dad, fuck him

 

[NiNe2FiVe]

I dont know about all of these people calling Bush a dumb ass and an idiot, although i dont care for him myself. In truth he is an educated man who was able to parlay his charismatic speaking ability into a political career, part of the reason he looks like a dumb hillbilly fuck is because he went from speaking from his own mind into reading speeches written by proffesional writers. A lot of people like to jump on the dumb ass bush bandwagon, and sometimes he is an ass, but he deserves an ounce of credit.