Peace, Propaganda & The Promise Land (documentary)

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And muslims are entitled to the Gaza strip why? "Zionism" is how old? 6000 years and Islam is how old? 1500 years.

I saw about 20 minutes of that film and its propaganda in its self.

Look at it this way. for 4500 years jews lived there then a religon called islam came along and decided that the same land that the jews ownd was the muslim holy land also, the muslims decided they didnt want to share the land and both sides have been at war ever sense.

Who was there first? I dont understand how a mutherfucker in a cave in Afgahanistan is going to start a religon and then claim that there holy land is that the land ownd by the jews.
 
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^^haha...

one thing i notice about bein Persian is that Iranians/Persians have a lot more pride in their culture and history than in Islam, one of the main differences between us and Afghans n Arabs.

I think the reason for this is because we know that originally we were Zorastrian and the only reason Islam exists in our culture is because a buncha grimey Arabs came and raped and pillaged our people until we eventually converted.
 
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NavThaShah said:
^^haha...

one thing i notice about bein Persian is that Iranians/Persians have a lot more pride in their culture and history than in Islam, one of the main differences between us and Afghans n Arabs.

I think the reason for this is because we know that originally we were Zorastrian and the only reason Islam exists in our culture is because a buncha grimey Arabs came and raped and pillaged our people until we eventually converted.
Wouldnt a persian be from all of the middle east? Iran,Iraq,Syria,Jordan ect? Peseria was a huge empire that was pretty much the entire middle east..am i wrong?
 
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ya. see first we were Arians. the Arian tribe split into 2, one becoming Germans one becoming Persians.
Later when the Arabs and Alexander eventually ran thru the Persian Empire, they split it up into all the countries in the middle east now. Iraq, afghanastan etc. the ENTIRE middle east became Arab EXCEPT for what is now Iran. We are the last remaining PERSIANS. this is why we take such offense when people confuse us with Arabs, because of how hard we have fought to preserve the Persian culture within us. Also a reason the people appose the mostly Arab New Government.
 
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NavThaShah said:
^^haha...

one thing i notice about bein Persian is that Iranians/Persians have a lot more pride in their culture and history than in Islam, one of the main differences between us and Afghans n Arabs.

I think the reason for this is because we know that originally we were Zorastrian and the only reason Islam exists in our culture is because a buncha grimey Arabs came and raped and pillaged our people until we eventually converted.
Funny how assyrian iranians and anti government iranians are so anti-islam. While it is their own people (not arabs) doing this to them. Bachem, girya nakoon. And whats being proud about being a Zorastrian? Nu Ruz? or worshipping fire? But this guy has to be taken seriously since hes taking psychology classes at JC
 
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And to put this out there I dont agree at all with the Iranian government, because it portrays itself as an islamic government yet goes against its many teachings. And i also am of the opinion that Israel should have its own state side by side next to a palestenian state.

To swoop187
Muslims were invited to jerusalem, infact muslims, jews, and christians lived peacefully while jerusalem was an islamic state.
 
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im not anti islam or hella zartoshti. i mean it is cool that the basics of zorastrianism is the fundamentals of all monotheistic religions and was there first. i honestly dont know enough about it to form an opinion on it. i could say that these days its more "Persian" to be zorastrian, as far as iranian-americans at least. it like all the Persian Pride guys who talk about Arabs like dogs and shit like saying their zorastrian cuz it gives them the "stickin to their roots" feelin u know.

i used to be a practicing muslim and still do follow much of it, only because it is the most untouched of the monotheistic religions.
but honestly i am a student of all religions and try to be narrow minded towards just one. they all have wisdom and they all have bullshit as well.

and why does what classes and where i take them have shit to do wit shit. you guys are quick to judge man thas a bad habit. im speaking from my life experience if u dont wanna value that then dont but wut the fuck u clownin for mayn?
 

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swoop187 said:
And muslims are entitled to the Gaza strip why? "Zionism" is how old? 6000 years and Islam is how old? 1500 years.

I saw about 20 minutes of that film and its propaganda in its self.

Look at it this way. for 4500 years jews lived there then a religon called islam came along and decided that the same land that the jews ownd was the muslim holy land also, the muslims decided they didnt want to share the land and both sides have been at war ever sense.

Who was there first? I dont understand how a mutherfucker in a cave in Afgahanistan is going to start a religon and then claim that there holy land is that the land ownd by the jews.
On the real man this is totally INCORRECT. Even the zionist poster child Jomodo will disagree with zionism being started 6,000 years ago LMAO! Also why are you comparing ZIONISM to ISLAM? You should be comparing JUDAISM (or the perverted forms of Judaism) to ISLAM.

You have war between TWO brothers. Isaac and Ishmael. Think about it for a bit. Also, CTFU@the current "jews" occupying the land.
 
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NavThaShah said:
im not anti islam or hella zartoshti. i mean it is cool that the basics of zorastrianism is the fundamentals of all monotheistic religions and was there first. i honestly dont know enough about it to form an opinion on it. i could say that these days its more "Persian" to be zorastrian, as far as iranian-americans at least. it like all the Persian Pride guys who talk about Arabs like dogs and shit like saying their zorastrian cuz it gives them the "stickin to their roots" feelin u know.

i used to be a practicing muslim and still do follow much of it, only because it is the most untouched of the monotheistic religions.
but honestly i am a student of all religions and try to be narrow minded towards just one. they all have wisdom and they all have bullshit as well.
Its all good man, you came at arabs in a wrong way i felt like. Im an arab myself and got love for Iranians even though many hate arabs. Yet i dont dislike Iranians because that would be stupid. Heres a very interesting link on Zoraastarianism, states that like christianity and judaisim it might have also been a religion from God and uses their scriptures about the coming of Mohammad (s.a.w)
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/parsi/zoroastrians.htm

and why does what classes and where i take them have shit to do wit shit. you guys are quick to judge man thas a bad habit. im speaking from my life experience if u dont wanna value that then dont but wut the fuck u clownin for mayn?
I was being sarcastic, but its all good, But you were judging as well in the bolded sentence.
 
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you're right. for that i apologize. its all love mayn. thanks for link homie good looks

also i have many arab friends regardless of our peoples view on arabs. sorry if it sounded that those were my feelings. im not the type that holds on to the historical grudges that our culture does. we're all the same in the white mans eye neway ;)
 
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HERESY said:
On the real man this is totally INCORRECT. Even the zionist poster child Jomodo will disagree with zionism being started 6,000 years ago LMAO! Also why are you comparing ZIONISM to ISLAM? You should be comparing JUDAISM (or the perverted forms of Judaism) to ISLAM.

You have war between TWO brothers. Isaac and Ishmael. Think about it for a bit. Also, CTFU@the current "jews" occupying the land.
I know all about it. What makes you think the muslims are entitled to that land first of all and second if the muslims didnt try and convert everyone with force for the last 1500 years and respected other religions we wouldnt be having this convo right now.
 
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NavThaShah said:
y we're all the same in the white mans eye neway ;)
There is no difference between you arabs and persians! You're all terrorists!

nah just playin. From what I understand what you say about Iran being the last of the Persians is true. I know a bit about Iranian history.

I'm a whiteman but I grew up with a bunch of Persians and my best comrades to this day are Persian. I actually worked in a Persian rugstore in Pioneer Square for about three years too (I can tell you the difference between just about any Persian rug, which city uses the finest wool/silk, etc., haha).
 

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I know all about it.
Sure you do, which is why you claim zionism started 6,000 years ago.

What makes you think the muslims are entitled to that land first of all
I haven't said anything about muslims being entitled to the land. BOING!

and second if the muslims didnt try and convert everyone with force for the last 1500 years and respected other religions we wouldnt be having this convo right now.
You are netitled to your opinion, but most people would probably blame christianty/catholicism for the majority of problems in the world today.