"Open Carry" Rally in Vallejo

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Dana Dane

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They were going to this at a park in the middle of a neighborhood, but now they are moving it to the waterfront.

The bold line in the article sums up my thoughts about this whole thing.

Armed activists move rally site
Saturday gathering now at waterfront
By Jessica A. York / Times-Herald
Posted: 04/01/2010 01:01:59 AM PDT

Gun rights activists planning to converge in Vallejo on Saturday will relocate about a mile from a downtown park to the city's waterfront, at city park administrators' request.

The "open carry" group, whose members plan to visibly carry unloaded guns in hip holsters in support of state laws, were initially set to meet in Washington Park.

Concerns about holding the 11 a.m. event in a residential area, however, led to the shift to Independence Park, south of the Ferry Terminal.

Event organizer Brad Huffman had not acquired a special event permit from the Greater Vallejo Recreation District when he announced the rally's original location, GVRD Executive Director Shane McAffee said.

"Our policy is that we don't allow guns in the park," McAffee said. "(But) it allows for me to issue special events permits ... like if the Boy Scouts want to shoot BB guns in Hanns Park."

The waterfront, McAffee said, is preferable to Washington Park because "it wasn't surrounded by homes. .. It actually has better visibility for what they plan to do."

McAffee said toilet facilities are already on site, and the alternative location "gives them a chance to make their statement without having a big impact on a neighborhood park."

McAffee's permit approval came despite a staff member's recommendation and objections from at least one Washington Park-area resident. Both had urged him to reject the request.

"I'm expecting it to be a positive event for this group and I hope they reach their expectations," said McAffee, who plans to attend the event to ensure that the group is complying with permit use conditions.

City resident Benjamin Wallace wrote the city manager and McAffee that he and his family regularly hear gunshots in and around Washington Park, bounded by Napa, El Dorado, Ohio and Sutter streets.

"I fail to see how the city and the GVRD could regard this gathering as an appropriate response to the violence that we are already experiencing," Wallace wrote.

Wallace's wife, Julie Paulson, said Wednesday she is glad to hear that event will "not be in front of our house," but did not support the event because "threatening more violence is not the best solution."

"If you have an open gun, the message to me is that you're willing to defend yourself," she said.

Huffman, of Martinez, said he is relatively unfamiliar with Vallejo parks, but, "just out of the sake of civility we are willing to be flexible" and change venues.

The thinly staffed Vallejo Police Department will be unable to provide oversight for the event -- expected to draw 100 people or more, Lt. Abel Tenorio said this week.
"We can't afford to change anything on that day's patrol," Tenorio said. "The only way we would be concerned about (this event) is these individuals walking around with unloaded weapons could be victimized by others who may feel like it is an opportunity to ... take the guns."

For more information on local open carry efforts, visit: www.norcaloc.com.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but the guns have to be unloaded but they can still carry the ammo right?

If that is the case I can not foresee someone going up to someone else to take their unloaded gun when a group of individuals next to him would be possibly loading theirs. I am not sure why the rally is needed and I am for correct and proper gun control but I actually support the right own a firearm, maybe the laws that surround this are a little strewed but the general idea is good imo.
 
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FUCK CALIFORNIA GUN LAWS. JUST SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE (LIVING OUT OF STATE FOR 5+ YEARS) RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS DO NOTHING TO HELP THE AVERAGE CITIZEN. OUT IN HERE IN TEXAS THERE ARE PLENTY OF THUGS AND WHATNOT. AND IM SURE CRIMINALS HAVE READY ACCESS TO GUNS. BUT SO DO AVERAGE CITIZENS IF THEY APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. THAT GIVES SOMEONE A FIGHTING CHANCE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. CALIFORNIA WOULD RATHER WE GET MUGGED OR SHOT UP AND WAIT CRUMPLED UP ON THE GROUND TO WAIT FOR THE CROOKED ASS COPS WHILE WE BLEED OUT...
 

Arson

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FUCK CALIFORNIA GUN LAWS. JUST SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE (LIVING OUT OF STATE FOR 5+ YEARS) RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS DO NOTHING TO HELP THE AVERAGE CITIZEN. OUT IN HERE IN TEXAS THERE ARE PLENTY OF THUGS AND WHATNOT. AND IM SURE CRIMINALS HAVE READY ACCESS TO GUNS. BUT SO DO AVERAGE CITIZENS IF THEY APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. THAT GIVES SOMEONE A FIGHTING CHANCE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. CALIFORNIA WOULD RATHER WE GET MUGGED OR SHOT UP AND WAIT CRUMPLED UP ON THE GROUND TO WAIT FOR THE CROOKED ASS COPS WHILE WE BLEED OUT...

Exactly, as a criminal its always comforting to know im probley the only one with a gun, I sure in fuck wouldnt pull the same shit on somebody in AZ, or TX.
 

Dana Dane

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'Open carry' rally stirs up emotions
By Lanz Christian Bañes/

A planned "open carry" event in Vallejo this weekend has sparked both outrage and approval among residents.
"This is a totally ridiculous thing they're doing with this. ... They can promote their cause without bringing guns in our streets and flaunting them," Dwayne Jones said Thursday, referring to a gathering of gun activists Saturday at Independence Park.
More than a 100 gun rights supporters are expected to come to Vallejo for a picnic in the park in part to familiarize people with the "open carry" law. In California, it is legal to carry an unloaded gun on a belt holster so long as schools or government buildings aren't nearby.
The Greater Vallejo Recreation District has moved the event to Independence Park on the waterfront from its original location at Washington Park partly due to resident concerns about the original location.
The Vallejo Police Department does not expect any problems with the group, as similar events in other cities have been largely peaceful, Lt. Abel Tenorio said Thursday. The only concern would be if group members had their unloaded guns taken from them, Tenorio said in an earlier interview.
"I think this is ... an uncivilized way of doing things," said Jones, who owns firearms but prefers to keep them at home.
Jones said he is also wary that the guns might be stolen, then used for illegal purposes on the streets.
Though Jones has no children, he expressed concern about the message a group of people openly carrying weapons would send to Vallejo's youth. February saw a spate of violence in the city, including the shooting of an ice cream truck driver allegedly by 15-year-old Peter Montenegro, who now faces attempted-murder charges.
But others support the gathering and dismiss ideas that guns themselves precipitate violence.
"I don't think guns promote violence. I think people who hold the guns promote violence," said Shelton Willis, an avid hunter and gunowner from Vallejo who plans to attend the picnic.
Willis, 67, also dismisses any concern that the group could be victimized by anyone wanting their guns. "I don't think they (the group) would just stand still," he said, adding that picnickers would not necessarily resort to loading their weapons and shooting at potential robbers.
The picnic goes from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday at Independence Park on the Vallejo waterfront, south of the Ferry Terminal. The barbecue is free and open to the public. For more information, visit www.NorCalOC.com.


***If you go, Sol, come pick me up! OMG WTF Free BBQ!?!?!?!