oO The U.S. needs to implement a CANING PROCESS Oo

[CaliAgents1688]

oO CANING PROCESS in the U.S.... heat fo' yo ass Oo

I noticed that there are lot of self professed criminals (re: glorifying shoplifiting thread) on this forum. While it may be exciting to undertake these risky activities, let me ask you this:

Would you still do it if we instituted the Singaporean/Malaysian Caning system?

I mean how different would you act if you knew that if caught, you would get stripes on your buttocks, not to mention complete shame and embarassment for the rest of your life.

For petty crimes like shoplifting and panhandling, 3 whips to the buttocks should be sufficient. This would prevent crime to higher degree.

CRIME AND PUNISHMENT.

the prison system is just like a revolving door, it doesn't work. Notice how criminals in our society are constantly getting caught up again and again in a cyclic manner?

With the caning system, I bet all you of you so-called hard asses would hesistate to commit even the smallest of crimes, let alone peddle drugs or shoot other "brothas" in the neighborhood.

Before you start calling this a human rights violation, keep in mind that in certain middle eastern countries if you steal a snickers your hand is chopped off. Any of you recall the video where an Indian/Pakistani man committing a crime so serious that they cut off both hands and feet?

In short I think that people in our society take advantage of a system that will not punish one in a way that will make you feel it... and remember it so deply that you will have constant nightmares. 10 slashes on the ass that will leave you permanently scarred will strike fear in your hearts and will curb the primitive impulse to commmit crimes. In addition good luck walking for the next 2 months or showing your face in public.

One can't even begin to realize the amount of embarassment and excruciating pain post caning. I also believe caning should be done out in public or at least aired on TV to broadcast what the consequences are for committing crime. Next time you'll surely think twice about stealing that laptop or stabbing the next victim. As a result, this will vastly improve the security and safety of the environment in which we live.

 

[DASICCLV702]

THATS Y I LOVE AMERICA THE SYSTEM IS GREAT

 

[28g w/o the bag]

haha the system is great huh?

thats the first time i've heard that

good grief.

::

 

[DASICCLV702]

WERE SPOILED COMPARED TO THOSE COUNTRIES

 

[CaliAgents1688]

lol @ a system that encourages crime.

This would be the ultimate crime preventer.

realize that.

 

[DASICCLV702]

who me?

 

[UsA'sMostWanted]

lol @ a system that encourages crime.

This would be the ultimate crime preventer.

realize that.

man, fuck your so-called "crimes,"


bah-mothafucking-humbug!!!!

who is anyone to say what another man does is wrong?
it's the person who gets jacked who is at fault for getting caught slipping. DONT SLEEP, and fuck paying taxes, the roots of the tree by my sidewalk lifted the concrete to the point that my driveway is all uneven, but I don't complain about shit. you don't see me calling the city telling them to use the tax money to fix that shit. You sons of bitch.


love, America's Most Wanted

 

[CaliAgents1688]

man, fuck your so-called "crimes,"


bah-mothafucking-humbug!!!!

who is anyone to say what another man does is wrong?
it's the person who gets jacked who is at fault for getting caught slipping. DONT SLEEP, and fuck paying taxes, the roots of the tree by my sidewalk lifted the concrete to the point that my driveway is all uneven, but I don't complain about shit. you don't see me calling the city telling them to use the tax money to fix that shit. You sons of bitch.


love, America's Most Wanted

LOL. so if another man is raping your daughter.. it's not wrong? By your viewpoint, "who is to say what another man does is wrong."

So as a long as somebody doesn't get caught raping your daughter it's all gravy eh?

please pull your head out of your ass and see the light.

as long as you keep this attitude.. and as long as we brothas keep this attitude we will be stuck in the lowest rung of society.

 

[TROLL]

^^
wow.. child raping and shoplifting are wayyyyyy off on the othersides when it comes to the seriousness so drawing that comparison makes u look foolish... let me ask u this question..

if u increase the penalty of a crime..

will the criminal decide not too steal.. or be more drastic in not getting caught?

 

[Meandme]

CaliAgents-You're an idiot. There's no other way to put it. The US is the country with the harshest legal system in the western world, yet it's also the one with the highest crime rate, and by far. Harder laws don't eliminate the social problems at the root of most crimes. In countries where even minor crimes are met with extreme punishments, criminals will go to great lenghts to not get caught. They'll kill cops before they let themselves be arrested. This degenerate thinking won't lead you anywhere but towards more violence and more crime. And if you really think the solution to the the overwhelming poverty many black people are facing in the US is ridiculous barbaric punishments, then you really are the dumbest son of a bitch to ever post on this board. What the fuck are you even doing here anyway?

 

[Sick Wid It]

In many of the middle eastern countries you get your hands chopped off if you're caught stealing. Guess what? They don't have much of a problem with theft.

In many of the middle eastern countries if you get caught driving drunk, you, and your family, go to prison. Guess what? They don't have much of a problem with drunk drivers.

I have to disagree when you say the US has one of the harshest legal systems. I know plenty of cats who are incarcerated and still think its a joke. The US does not use extreme punishment to deter crime. And it's too bad because if they did, there would be a lot less of it.

Did you know the cost of keeping someone locked up for 1 year is more than what the average person makes in a year? Ridiculous.

I'll agree that harsher punishment won't solve the social issues that contribute to high crime rates, but it will make people think twice before they commit crimes. I think most cats will agree there's nothing on earth worth stealing if it means you lose your hands if you get caught.

 

[EverReadyT9X]

8th amendment....

 

[DASICCLV702]

WHAT DOES THE 8TH AMENDMENT SAY?

 

[TROLL]

I think most cats will agree there's nothing on earth worth stealing if it means you lose your hands if you get caught.

I agree and disagree with this statement homie.. in cases where someone is stealing something just because they want it...then yeah, they'll probably think twice... but if someone is starving they'll think they're hunger pains are far worse then gettin their hands chopped off then they'll be broke and handless..

 

[CaliAgents1688]

^^
wow.. child raping and shoplifting are wayyyyyy off on the othersides when it comes to the seriousness so drawing that comparison makes u look foolish... let me ask u this question..

if u increase the penalty of a crime..

will the criminal decide not too steal.. or be more drastic in not getting caught?

haha.

You know I quoted his words and gave him an extreme example to show him how stupid his statement was.

The answer to your question is if you give people direct punishment, ie caning, instead of a soft punishment like throwing you in jail, which for many young black brothas is even a status symbol when they get out, they will be far less prone to committing crimes.

televise these canings on TV and you'll see even less crime.

 

[Meandme]

In many of the middle eastern countries you get your hands chopped off if you're caught stealing. Guess what? They don't have much of a problem with theft.

In many of the middle eastern countries if you get caught driving drunk, you, and your family, go to prison. Guess what? They don't have much of a problem with drunk drivers.

They'll also stone a woman to death if she's accused of cheating on her man. I wouldn't base my justice system on theirs. And it doesn't seem like their murder rate is all that low...

I have to disagree when you say the US has one of the harshest legal systems. I know plenty of cats who are incarcerated and still think its a joke.

I said harshest in the WESTERN world. Actually, that was mistaken of me. I meant to say the harshest of any non third-world countries, which it is. All those European countries with legal systems that carry much less severe sentences and focus on rehabilitation and social justice don't have much of a problem with crime in general either.

The US does not use extreme punishment to deter crime. And it's too bad because if they did, there would be a lot less of it.

They use the death penalty. Doesn't get much more extreme than death. People still kill each other all the time, though.

Did you know the cost of keeping someone locked up for 1 year is more than what the average person makes in a year? Ridiculous.

People make tons of money off of jails, it's one of the largest industries in the States and growing. And what do you suggest anyway? What's your point? If someone jacks somebody, you just cut one of his hands and feet and don't send him to jail? Like they ain't going to do it again if that's all they know. They'll be right back at it or end up as beggars.

I'll agree that harsher punishment won't solve the social issues that contribute to high crime rates...

Yet that's all people seem concerned with. They might concede that there's social problems at the root of the vast majority of crimes (excluding things like pedophily, serial killers, etc.-people who do really fucked shit strictly on impulse), but when it's time to do something the forget about that part and it's all more laws, more cops, more cameras. A bunch of bullshit.

 

[TROLL]

The answer to your question is if you give people direct punishment, ie caning, instead of a soft punishment like throwing you in jail, which for many young black brothas is even a status symbol when they get out, they will be far less prone to committing crimes.

thats true but like i said they'd avoid embarassment like the plague.. but the govmnt need the money they make off of inmates.. its a buisness. fucked up but tru

 

[Sick Wid It]

They'll also stone a woman to death if she's accused of cheating on her man. I wouldn't base my justice system on theirs. And it doesn't seem like their murder rate is all that low...

Nobody suggested to base our entire justice system on theirs. You just don't ignore what works.

I said harshest in the WESTERN world. Actually, that was mistaken of me. I meant to say the harshest of any non third-world countries, which it is. All those European countries with legal systems that carry much less severe sentences and focus on rehabilitation and social justice don't have much of a problem with crime in general either.

Germany is a non-third world country and many of their laws are far more severe, even for first time offenders. For example their BAC limit is .05, lower than any state, and their punishment is worse. The result, they don't have nearly the problem with drunk drivers as we do.

They use the death penalty. Doesn't get much more extreme than death. People still kill each other all the time, though.

They're also fighting religious wars too. Very very few people get into an argument where one person pulls out a gun and kills the other over there. That happens daily here.

People make tons of money off of jails, it's one of the largest industries in the States and growing. And what do you suggest anyway? What's your point?

I've already made my point and besides the fact that people agree with it, it's a point that's already been proven in the real world. Crime rates in countries that carry harsher punishments are lower overall. It's not like this hasn't been studied or is kept a secret. I don't see many people suggesting harsher punishment doesn't work, I see them whining about whether or not its moral.

If someone jacks somebody, you just cut one of his hands and feet and don't send him to jail? Like they ain't going to do it again if that's all they know. They'll be right back at it or end up as beggars.

It's pretty hard to steal when you don't have hands. I'm going to go out a limb here and say that I'm pretty sure after losing a hand or two from being caught stealing, people are a whole lot less likely to be repeat offenders.

Yet that's all people seem concerned with. They might concede that there's social problems at the root of the vast majority of crimes (excluding things like pedophily, serial killers, etc.-people who do really fucked shit strictly on impulse), but when it's time to do something the forget about that part and it's all more laws, more cops, more cameras. A bunch of bullshit.

As long as the social aspect of the problem is ignored, the problem will never be solved. I never said harsher punishment is the key, only that it works as a strong deterent against crime. When convicts are saying the justice system is a joke, the justice system really is a joke. Most of them look at most jail time like it's nothin'. Community service is nothin'. Probation is nothin'. People arn't scared to commit crimes because they arn't scared of the punishment.

It's not the results (lower crime rates) anyone has a problem with, it's the methods used because afterall, we're "one nation under god" and a lot of people have a problem with harshness here. Remember, this is the same country that felt Janet Jackson showing her nipple was headline news and deserving to be a frontpage story for weeks!

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

man tha caning process?
looks brutal....
that would never come to the US