actually i stopped listening to him after Hall of Game because Charlie Hu$tle and the Element of Surprise are sub-par 40 albums, but when he came nasty on Loyalty & Betrayal, it rekindled my love for that Bay-Area hogg ass shit--now that I'm dickridin again those albums (and Immortalized, G-Filez) were tryin to take a little different directions, but realized that there original styles always work best...I have the feeling this is gonna be the best Forty Water effort in like 6 years