Official now thay have been drafted who will be a bust thread

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Mar 16, 2005
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Ok I know I am starting this early, but what the hey at least it is up and ready for Saturday.

So once the first round is done lets go ahead and say who we think will be a bust due to getting drafted to a bad team, wrong situation, what not.
 
Feb 28, 2005
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Vince Young is garbage. He's gonna be a wannabe Mike Vick but he's not as fast and he can't dodge tackles as well. He won't be running any linebackers over in the NFL so we won't ever see a performance like the one against USC. He's a mediocre passer at best. He is not worth a first round pick. The problem is I heard the Raiders are already considering him!
 

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^ exactly, rumors are that if hes still there @ pick 6, the raiders will swap with the niners to be sure to get him.......
 
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Chree said:
^ exactly, rumors are that if hes still there @ pick 6, the raiders will swap with the niners to be sure to get him.......
if thats the truth that would be stupid, because the niners ain't gon pick him and the raider got the 7th pick right after the niners
 

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vokal said:
if thats the truth that would be stupid, because the niners ain't gon pick him and the raider got the 7th pick right after the niners
the reason they would trade for pick #6 even though they draft right after is to make sure the 9ers don't trade the pick away to someone else that might want vince y.
 
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IntenseFear said:
Vince Young is garbage. He's gonna be a wannabe Mike Vick but he's not as fast and he can't dodge tackles as well. He won't be running any linebackers over in the NFL so we won't ever see a performance like the one against USC. He's a mediocre passer at best. He is not worth a first round pick. The problem is I heard the Raiders are already considering him!
Judging by the last game he played I wouldn't say Vince Young is garbage...He looked better than Vick ever did in college....
 
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Everything about Vince Young screams BUST.

Had a great Junior year.

Never played under center ie. doesn't know what a 5 or 7 step drop is.

Has an unorthodox throwing motion.

Scored low on the wonderlic test TWICE.

On paper he looks like Ryan Leaf after the 98 Rose Bowl but with better wheels.

I never root against anyone or wish someone to do bad, unless they play for Ohio State or Nebraska, but if history teaches us anything TALLENT+BIG QUESTIONS=BUST
 
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I think that unorthodox throwing motion is a good thing....He gets the ball out of his hand fast and throws very good short passes....
 
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Hoosier said:
Judging by the last game he played I wouldn't say Vince Young is garbage...He looked better than Vick ever did in college....
Whoa! Someone missed the 2000 Sugar Bowl. Vick single handedly kept Tech in that game against FSU, when Tech was way over matched. One of the best performances I've seen by a college football player.
And Vince young beat a mediocre, at best, defense (USC), with his legs, not his arm. Vince Young will not be a good NFL QB. I agree with whoever said that he needs to be moved to TE.
 
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ArYo said:
the reason they would trade for pick #6 even though they draft right after is to make sure the 9ers don't trade the pick away to someone else that might want vince y.
true didn't think about that, but i'm still thinkin' defense for raiders
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
Whoa! Someone missed the 2000 Sugar Bowl. Vick single handedly kept Tech in that game against FSU, when Tech was way over matched. One of the best performances I've seen by a college football player.
And Vince young beat a mediocre, at best, defense (USC), with his legs, not his arm. Vince Young will not be a good NFL QB. I agree with whoever said that he needs to be moved to TE.
Good point! Except Young led his team to victory against the 2 time defending national champions and Vick came up short...
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Am I the only person who thinks Vince Young will be a good QB? It's going to take a few years but I bet he's going to be considered one of the top QB's in the league...

I think he's the best player in the draft. I'd pick him #1.

those comparing him to Vick....chew on this!


Vick's 2000 stats (10 games):

PASSING - 161 att, 87 comp = 54.0 %
1234 yards
8 tds
7.66 yards/att
14.18 yards/comp
6 ints (int % = 3.76)
123.40 yards/game

RUSHING -
104 att, 617 yards = 5.9 per att
8 tds


AND NOW VINCE last year (13 games):

PASSING - 325 att, 212 comp = 65.2 %
3036 yards
26 tds
9.34 yards/att
14.32 yards/comp
10 ints (int % = 3.07)
233.5 yards/game

RUSHING -
155 att, 1050 yards = 6.77 per att
12 tds

sound like a valid comparison now folks? didn't think so.

to take this one step further let's extend Vick's season out 3 games by adding his per game averages to his totals and compare side by side.

........................MV -- VY
passing yards - 1604 -- 3036 HUGE advantage VY
tds passing ---- 10 -- 26 HUGE advantage VY
rushing yards -- 802 -- 1050 BIG advantage VY (it's the almost 1 yard per carry advantage)
rushing tds ----- 10 -- 12 (AD VY)

ok... in all honesty, I'll give you MV is better than or at the very least, equal to Vince in the running department (even tho the stats favor VY). But for all you people to equate Vince to Vick as a PASSER is simply idiotic.

Oh and Vince also finished 3rd in the Passing Efficiency ratings this year... his 163.9 is better than one Matt Leinart's 157.7 against the feared pass defenses in the PAC10.

stat sources:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...8950/index.html
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/rev/apr01/...michaelvick.asp
 
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I don't think Vince will be a bust,,,, I see him succeeding in the NFL.......... I'm going to go with Reggie Bush.. I don't think he will live up to all the hype, He'll be an average back but nothing like he's made out to be
 

Tony

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Vince Young will be a bust? OMG.... I've heard it all. No way Vince Young will be a bust in the NFL. He's 5 inches taller than Vick and played much better in college. Vince won't come in the NFL and dominate yet... give him a year or two under NFL coaching and watch out. You 49er fans are mad because Alex Smith is a bust. If I was a defensive coordinator playing against the 49ers I would scheme and roll my coverage towards Davis. Alex Smith is a bust! Vince Young won't be.