Obama is the democratic nominee
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Seriously, just be done. You just pointed out that you know jack about American presidential politics rendering your assessments null and void.Race, Gender, Charisma > any policy, idea, fantasy about change or whatever other buzz word you fall for, when it comes to modern American presidential politics.
Your Jr. High level poli sci lesson for the day is complete you're dismissed.
Seriously, just be done. You just pointed out that you know jack about American presidential politics rendering your assessments null and void.Race, Gender, Charisma > any policy, idea, fantasy about change or whatever other buzz word you fall for, when it comes to modern American presidential politics.
Your Jr. High level poli sci lesson for the day is complete you're dismissed.
how is race gender and charisma REALLY a factor in politics??
so....what you're saying is you want a white male with a good sense of humor to be the president regardless of knowing what his ideas are??
this is the presidency of the united states not american idol you idiot.
I dont give a shit what the prez looks like, as long as he/she does its fuckin job.
"you know, half the nations unemployed, our dollar isnt worth the paper ist printed on, but DAMN......the president is hella cool, such charisma."
GTFOH!!
Another example that separates me (someone knowledgeable on the subject) from you (someone obviously not knowledgeable on the subject).
Race, Gender, and most important Charisma are the heart of American Presidential politics. You really don’t understand why that is true? Voters form their choices on a base constructed around which candidate they identify with most. Similar Race & Gender offer comfort and familiarity. Charisma separates the “men from the boys so to speak”. Oratorical prowess, height, complexion, looks all have a stronger position in the mind of the American voter than what a candidate’s policy on the relations between the U.S. and U.N. and the effectiveness in fighting sub-Saharan African epidemics. One is applicable to the duties of the president the other isn’t. Maybe we should take this lesson back to elementary rather than Jr High?
Additionally you confuse objective analysis of the situation with preference. Because I simply point out the obvious attraction to the candidate despite his serious faults you suppose that I some how favor his opposite.
You’re out of your league on this one.
No one who votes solely on policy would vote for any of these candidates because they base their positions around ideas that run contrary to the interests of the voter. Or rather, no one seriously concerned with the duties of the president, as you claim you are, as their sole factor in their decision chooses Obama or either of his competitors so try that line on someone else. I don’t fall for that shit.
Race, Gender, and most important Charisma are the heart of American Presidential politics. You really don’t understand why that is true? Voters form their choices on a base constructed around which candidate they identify with most. Similar Race & Gender offer comfort and familiarity. Charisma separates the “men from the boys so to speak”. Oratorical prowess, height, complexion, looks all have a stronger position in the mind of the American voter than what a candidate’s policy on the relations between the U.S. and U.N. and the effectiveness in fighting sub-Saharan African epidemics. One is applicable to the duties of the president the other isn’t. Maybe we should take this lesson back to elementary rather than Jr High?
Additionally you confuse objective analysis of the situation with preference. Because I simply point out the obvious attraction to the candidate despite his serious faults you suppose that I some how favor his opposite.
You’re out of your league on this one.
No one who votes solely on policy would vote for any of these candidates because they base their positions around ideas that run contrary to the interests of the voter. Or rather, no one seriously concerned with the duties of the president, as you claim you are, as their sole factor in their decision chooses Obama or either of his competitors so try that line on someone else. I don’t fall for that shit.
they all support the war, even though they shy from it.
they say "we need to withdrawal in a responsible way" actually mean, we dont plan on withdrawing any time soon.
They have both (obama, clinton) met with Israelis council to keep funding billions to them. All the candidates will sell you out, who you think is giving Obama all his funding? Me and you haven't cut him a check, but you know corporations are...
But I am slightly more optimistic about Obama, cause at least he doesn't have a track record, verse Clinton/ McCain who have bad records.
they say "we need to withdrawal in a responsible way" actually mean, we dont plan on withdrawing any time soon.
They have both (obama, clinton) met with Israelis council to keep funding billions to them. All the candidates will sell you out, who you think is giving Obama all his funding? Me and you haven't cut him a check, but you know corporations are...
But I am slightly more optimistic about Obama, cause at least he doesn't have a track record, verse Clinton/ McCain who have bad records.
expand on that instead of reiterating that all obama has going for him is charisma. i definitely don't agree with that opinion, but, regardless, there is real value in charisma when it comes to leadership and to soliciting support / cooperation, and likeability is often reflective of other positive qualities (e.g. trustworthiness, tactfulness, etc.).
Agreed. It shouldn't be mistaken that I don't value the importance of charisma in politics or leadership in general. My point is that it trumps all other characteristics that should be seen as important in a candidate when it comes to the general voting populace. And that their love for charisma is not based upon what it can do for them or help the candidate get done, it is being used as a tool on them, to get them to support the candidate and most often distract them from the failings of the candidate in other areas.
I don't have time to answer all of the first part of your question, but I hope to get to it soon.
Good post though.
I don't have time to answer all of the first part of your question, but I hope to get to it soon.
Good post though.