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But I see from several posts that many of you are in need of a reminder . . .

Sept. 11, 2001 – 19 Muslim terrorists hijacked four U.S. jetliners and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center. That is why the twin towers collapsed. Not because of a missile or a "controlled demolition" centered around some secret government plot or any other wacky conspiracy theories.


NEVER FORGET
 
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why profain the names of those who died by using their memory to take a shot at those who are doing them justice by finding out what really happend?? people like you sicken me...
 
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Never forget September 11th.

The events of September 11th were horrific, tragic, and criminal on a monumental scale. Planes flew low over an American nation's leading city. Buildings erupted in flames. There was an official death toll of more than 3,000. Thousands of innocent people were ruthlessly slaughtered. Their loved ones were placed in horrible suspense, waiting to learn the fate of missing husbands, wives, sisters, cousins, and children. An American country was left in shock, with an uncertain future, as the perpetrators evaded capture and punishment. September 11th was a dark, bloody day of historic proportions. It was a prelude to regression, repression and heightened bloodshed.

Yes, the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Chile's president Salvadore Allende on September 11th, 1973 was a terrible watershed. The low-flying planes belonged to the Chilean Air Force. They came on the orders of Chilean General Augusto Pinochet to bomb La Moneda Presidential Palace, where Allende, a self-declared Marxist, killed himself before he could be assassinated. Hundreds of real and suspected Allende supporters were gunned down in Santiago's soccer stadium, fashioned into a torture center and concentration camp. Across the nation, in the streets and military detention centers, Pinochet's forces murdered 20,000 and tortured 60,000 in the first few months after 9/11/1973. One million Chileans were forced into exile. According to leading international relations analyst William I. Robinson, it was "the bloodiest coup in Latin-American history" (Robinson, Promoting Polyarchy: Globalization, US Intervention, and Hegemony [Cambridge, MA: Cambridge University Press, 1996], p. 46).

According to a report from Patrick Ryan, the US Naval Attaché stationed with the United States Military Group in Chile that black September, the coup was "close to perfect." It was, Ryan told his superiors, a great victory for "free men aspiring to goals which are to the benefit of Chile and not self-serving world Marxism."

Never forget 9/11 and the bloody US-backed coup
 
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Deadpool said:
Not because of "controlled demolition"
Tell that to the firefighters that were at ground zero when they collapsed..

I could go on a big spill of how it DID..but whats the point?You wont change your mind.I mean...god FORBID...SCIENCE could prove it was controlled demolition...right?
 
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Edward Thizzerhands said:
I could go on a big spill of how it DID..but whats the point?You wont change your mind.I mean...god FORBID...SCIENCE could prove it was controlled demolition...right?
^^
ive kind of gained that perspective too... why bothering trying to convince someone who refuses to think for themself?? i learnd its best to just state the fact, post the resource to the info, and let them do their own searching.. that way you weed out those who actually care about their country from those who dont...
 
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TROLL said:
^^
ive kind of gained that perspective too... why bothering trying to convince someone who refuses to think for themself?? i learnd its best to just state the fact, post the resource to the info, and let them do their own searching.. that way you weed out those who actually care about their country from those who dont...
People like him...are the same ones who had parents that couldnt and WOULDNT believe that JFK was assassinated...by more than one MAN....a MAN that was in with the government...yet nowadays...more than 60% of people beleive it was a conspiracy...and that there is evidence that more than one person shot AT the car...and he was KILLLED by a man on the "grassy knoll"...it can even be proved by the damn video footage!!!!
 
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You mean experts in fields like the mechanical and metallurgical analysis of structural steel or baseline structural performance and aircraft impact damage prediction? People who are doctors of civil/structural/mechanical/electrical engineering, physical chemistry & metallurgy?

Those are the kinds of people you would reference to prove your conspiracy theories?

Scientists/Doctors/Experts prove to us what happened(the plane crashes triggered the collapse of the twin towers). Bored internet geeks and traitors to America try and convince people of their falsities or hide behind “why bother” arguments.
 
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Deadpool said:
You mean experts in fields like the mechanical and metallurgical analysis of structural steel or baseline structural performance and aircraft impact damage prediction? People who are doctors of civil/structural/mechanical/electrical engineering, physical chemistry & metallurgy?
Actually yes...would you lilke me to post it?

Those are the kinds of people you would reference to prove your conspiracy theories?
I like to think of them as "truth"...

Scientists/Doctors/Experts prove to us what happened(the plane crashes triggered the collapse of the twin towers). Bored internet geeks and traitors to America try and convince people of their falsities or hide behind “why bother” arguments.
OK...prove it.
 
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That's fucked up what they did in Chile

I have freinds whos relatives lived through that shit and got out to other countries.

The stories of torture were so horrific, it makes you think this really is hell

One guy was laid on a table and had his balls nailed to it others has nails driven into their fingers, some nasty shit.

It's sad this shit goes on around the world, it's sad people have to go through this, these people I sympathise the most with.
 
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You expect me to watch a google video? Don't you have any kind of text evidence to back up your loony conspiracy theories? Experts and Scientists write and publish their findings; they don't just make google videos.
 
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Here's Osama Bin Laden's FBI Wanted Poster....

Where on there does it say "Terrorist Attack On WTC"?

It doesnt...you know why?Cus he didnt do it.He even DENOUCNES it on Al-Jazera...

This is the same militant terrorist leader that has taken responsibility for previous terrorist attacks...including the one in 1993 against the WTC...so WHY would he say he didnt do this one???The biggest "terrorist" attack in US history???

But our government...FOX news,CNN news,MSNBC news..all say...it was Al-Queda....Osama's terroist group...

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
 
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Deadpool said:
You expect me to watch a google video? Don't you have any kind of text evidence to back up your loony conspiracy theories? Experts and Scientists write and publish their findings; they don't just make google videos.
Wow...thats pretty lame back out...

What differnce does it make if its spoken or written???

Either watch what i posted...or dont waste my time....

Like i said...if you still believe this was "Al-Queda"....then so be it...if you think that our US government would never do this to us...so be it...

Any one with common sense and a littel common knowledge would see that the towers were brought down in controlled demolition...

Have a good one.
 

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Does the burden of proof lie with the thread starter who stated:

19 Muslim terrorists hijacked four U.S. jetliners and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center. That is why the twin towers collapsed. Not because of a missile or a "controlled demolition" centered around some secret government plot or any other wacky conspiracy theories.
(emphasis mine)

or does the burden of proof lie with the poster who said:

I mean...god FORBID...SCIENCE could prove it was controlled demolition...right?
(emphasis mine)
 
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I haven't had a chance to watch you videos, but . . ."

The WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires (which reached temperatures as high as 1,000 degrees Celsius) significantly weakened the floors and columns with dislodged fireproofing to the point where floors sagged and pulled inward on the perimeter columns. This led to the inward bowing of the perimeter columns and failure of the south face of WTC 1 and the east face of WTC 2, initiating the collapse of each of the towers. Both photographic and video evidence—as well as accounts from the New York Police Department aviation unit during a half-hour period prior to collapse—support this sequence for each tower.

There is conclusive evidence that:

The collapse was initiated in the impact and fire floors of the WTC towers and nowhere else, and;

The time it took for the collapse to initiate (56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1) was dictated by (1) the extent of damage caused by the aircraft impact, and (2) the time it took for the fires to reach critical locations and weaken the structure to the point that the towers could not resist the tremendous energy released by the downward movement of the massive top section of the building at and above the fire and impact floors.

Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence (collected by the New York Police Department, the Port Authority Police Department or the Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections (including and above the 98th floor in WTC 1 and the 82nd floor in WTC 2) began their downward movement upon collapse initiation. "
 
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Deadpool said:
I haven't had a chance to watch you videos, but . . ."

The WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires (which reached temperatures as high as 1,000 degrees Celsius) significantly weakened the floors and columns with dislodged fireproofing to the point where floors sagged and pulled inward on the perimeter columns. This led to the inward bowing of the perimeter columns and failure of the south face of WTC 1 and the east face of WTC 2, initiating the collapse of each of the towers. Both photographic and video evidence—as well as accounts from the New York Police Department aviation unit during a half-hour period prior to collapse—support this sequence for each tower.

There is conclusive evidence that:

The collapse was initiated in the impact and fire floors of the WTC towers and nowhere else, and;

The time it took for the collapse to initiate (56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1) was dictated by (1) the extent of damage caused by the aircraft impact, and (2) the time it took for the fires to reach critical locations and weaken the structure to the point that the towers could not resist the tremendous energy released by the downward movement of the massive top section of the building at and above the fire and impact floors.

Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence (collected by the New York Police Department, the Port Authority Police Department or the Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections (including and above the 98th floor in WTC 1 and the 82nd floor in WTC 2) began their downward movement upon collapse initiation. "
Dog...just watch the videos...everything you just posted is refuted...BY SCIENTISTS AND SPECIALISTS IN THOSE RESPECTIVE FIELDS...