Not a snake! Limbless lizard discovered

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Zoologist finds 7-inch long Sepsophis; looks like a scaly, small snake


This undated photo shows a new species of limbless lizard belonging to the genus sepsophis, in the forested region of Khandadhar near Raurkela in Orissa state, about 625 miles southeast of New Delhi, India.

Updated: 10:48 a.m. CT May 29, 2007
NEW DELHI - An Indian zoologist said Monday he has found a new species of limbless lizard in a forested area in the country's east.

"Preliminary scientific study reveals that the lizard belongs to the genus Sepsophis," said Sushil Kumar Dutta, who led a team of researchers from "Vasundhra," a non-governmental organization, and the North Orissa University.

The newly found 7-inch long lizard looks like a scaly, small snake, Dutta said. "It prefers to live in a cool retreat, soft soil and below stones."

"The lizard is new to science and is an important discovery. It is not found anywhere else in the world," Dutta told The Associated Press. He is the head of the zoology department of the North Orissa University in the eastern Indian town of Baripada.

While modern snakes and lizards are derived from a common evolutionary ancestor, they belong today to two entirely separate groups of animals, or orders. Snakes, over millenia, gradually lost their limbs and developed their characteristic forms of locomotion. But modern limbless lizards are not snakes, Dutta said.

The lizard was found 10 days ago during a field study in the forested region of Khandadhar near Raurkela in Orissa state, about 625 miles southeast of New Delhi, he said.

"The new species will be scientifically described at a later stage after accumulation of more data," Dutta said.

The other limbless lizards belonging to different families have been found in India's Nicobar island, in the northeast, and in Orissa and Andhra Pradesh states, he said.

The closest relatives of the new species are found in Sri Lanka and South Africa, Dutta said.

However, the species found ten days ago is new to the world, Dutta said.

Another species of the same genus, "Sepsohis punctatus," was found in 1870 from the Golconda hills in Andhra Pradesh, said Varadi Giri, a scientist at the Bombay Natural History Society, who was not part of the team that found the lizard.

Giri said Dutta is a reputed zoologist and his claim appears legitimate. "But for an independent confirmation, one has to wait for the publication of the finding in a reputed science magazine."

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"Giri said Dutta is a reputed zoologist and his claim appears legitimate. "But for an independent confirmation, one has to wait for the publication of the finding in a reputed science magazine."


I guess the jury is out then on the whole hoax thing.
 
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Can they explain how this is not a snake(Any DNA tests?)? It looks like one to me, what is it, a mimic? I thought mostly bugs mimic, or is this the evolutionary path of all lizards and these rascals were just ahead of the pack?
 
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ParkBoyz said:
Can they explain how this is not a snake(Any DNA tests?)? It looks like one to me, what is it, a mimic? I thought mostly bugs mimic, or is this the evolutionary path of all lizards and these rascals were just ahead of the pack?
LOL! I don't mean to be rude towards science, but seriously, a snake is basically a lizard without limbs. LOL
 
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Don't know how credible Wikipedia is, but it says:

Wikipedia said:
They [legless lizards] are distinguished from true snakes by the presence of eyelids and ears. The tail of such lizards, like many other lizards, will break off as a defense mechanism, unlike snakes.

Cool article.
 
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Because classification of life is based upon evolutionary relationships and I'm guessing that legless lizards evolved separately from snakes (either before or after).
 
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^That's why I was asking for a little bit more elaboration since surely we cannot infer 'evolutionary relationships' based on examining ears and eyelids alone..
 
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RedStorm said:
Because classification of life is based upon evolutionary relationships and I'm guessing that legless lizards evolved separately from snakes (either before or after).
I really Enjoy this guys approach. Instead of bashing religion and resorting to irrelevant name calling he explains science well. Good Shit RedStorm
 
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ParkBoyz said:
^That's why I was asking for a little bit more elaboration since surely we cannot infer 'evolutionary relationships' based on examining ears and eyelids alone..
But it is important. The relationships are likely not based solely on those two things. I'm sure the fossil record also has something to do with these conclusions.
 

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^Those are the only differences?:ermm:

Edit: How about them being distinguished from "True lizards" by not having legs?
They have vestigial limb structures....

This what the Reptile Database has to say about the Pygopodidae family (Australasian Legless Lizards):

Reptile Database said:
The pygopods are functionally limbless; the forelimbs and pectoral girdle are absent, and the hindlimbs remain only as scaly flaps with a vestigial hindlimb and pelvic skeleton.
 
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ReKz said:
They have vestigial limb structures....

This what the Reptile Database has to say about the Pygopodidae family (Australasian Legless Lizards):
Ok, well that's convincing.. I was looking for something along the lines of DNA, but fair enough, it's obviously a lizard snake wanna-be..