Nick Berg: The beheadment of the american VIDEO *graphic content*

[HERESY]

1. FROM WHAT I READ (AND SAW ON TV) THEY SAID HE ACTUALLY CHOPPED HIS HEAD OFF.


2. LET'S SAY HE ORDERED THE BEHEADING. HOW COULD HE HAVE WHEN HE WAS REPORTED DEAD BEFORE THIS GUY WAS EVER CAPTURED?


3. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY COULD HAVE PICKED A BETTER SMOKESCREEN. WHY? THE BERG CASE ISN'T BEING REPORTED MUCH AND WHEN PEOPLEMENTIONED THIS GUY WAS THE DEAD (THE ACCUSED) THEY HUSHED IT.


"GOD BLESS SADDAM FOR WHAT?"


WHY SHOULD GOD NOT BLESS SADDAM? DO YOU SEE SADDAM INVADING A COUNTRY THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY AND KILLING THOUSANDS OF CIVILLIONS? IS SADDAMS COUNTRY BASED ON RACISM THAT HAS ELIMINATED/DECIMATED ENTIRE AFRIKAN AND NATIVE CIVILIZATIONS? DOES SADDAMS COUNTRY RAPE AND PILLAGE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES VIA THE WORLD CONSERVATION BANK?


YOU CAN SAY"OH HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE" BUT THATS UP FOR *DEBATE*.



TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.......IMPRESSIVE.....


NO ANSWER NEEDED BRO.




DOWN WITH AMERICA, THE GREAT SATAN


:HGK:

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

He did gas and murder his own people. There is everything from documentation, to videos, to eyewitness accounts, to documentaries produced by Europeans 9Not Americans) living in the area known as Kurdistan. Saddam butchered his own people by the thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands. This isn't "up for debate". It has been confirmed by everyone from the west to the east and inbetween. Even countries like Syria and Iran admit Saddam murdered his own people.

 

[SocialResponsibility]

^^^^yup, whats your thaughts on that heresy.....talking bout "saddam never invaded another country and killed innocent civilians".....yeah right bro, read up homie.....

 

[HERESY]

^^^^yup, whats your thaughts on that heresy.....talking bout "saddam never invaded another country and killed innocent civilians".....yeah right bro, read up homie.....

When it comes to reading I'm probably one of the top three readers on this site. Please refrain from speaking to me unless you have something intelligent to say.


Since you suggested I read up can you answer the following questions?


1. What material should I read?

2. Will the material most likely come from the associated press or any other tlc/cfr owned media outlet?

3. Do you have any first hand knowledge of Saddam killing his own people?



@White devil you said:


"He did gas and murder his own people. There is everything from documentation, to videos, to eyewitness accounts, to documentaries produced by Europeans 9Not Americans) living in the area known as Kurdistan."



There is also documentation (which I've linked and posted in the past) that say's he didn't gas the kurds (because he never used that kind of gas) and didn't kill his people.


"This isn't "up for debate". It has been confirmed by everyone from the west to the east and inbetween. Even countries like Syria and Iran admit Saddam murdered his own people."


see the above.



:hgk:

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I'd like to peep that shit

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Under Saddam's regime many hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of his actions, the vast majority of them Muslims. According to a 2001 Amnesty International report, "victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings, and electric shocks ... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."

Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered. Allegations of prostitution are used to intimidate opponents of the regime and have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women. There have been documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulting in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds. The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988. The largest was the attack on Halabja which resulted in approximately 5,000 deaths. o 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.

Iraq's 13 million Shi'a Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, face severe restrictions on their religious practice, including a ban on communal Friday prayer, and restriction on funeral processions.

According to Human Rights Watch, "senior Arab diplomats told the London-based Arabic daily newspaper al-Hayat in October [1991] that Iraqi leaders were privately acknowledging that 250,000 people were killed during the uprisings, with most of the casualties in the south." Refugees International reports that

"Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis, primarily Kurds who have fled to the north to escape Saddam Hussein's Arabization campaigns (which involve forcing Kurds to renounce their Kurdish identity or lose their property) and Marsh Arabs, who fled the government's campaign to dry up the southern marshes for agricultural use. More than 200,000 Iraqis continue to live as refugees in Iran."

In 2002, the U.S. Committee for Refugees estimated that nearly 100,000 Kurds, Assyrians, and Turkomans had previously been expelled, by the regime, from the "central-government-controlled Kirkuk and surrounding districts in the oil-rich region bordering the Kurdish controlled north."
Executions:
4,000 prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in 1984;
3,000 prisoners at the Mahjar prison from 1993-1998;
2,500 prisoners were executed between 1997-1999 in a "prison cleansing campaign;"
122 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/March 2000;
23 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in October 2001; and
At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001.

That's straight from Amnesty International. What the fuck incentive do they have to lie. Are they conspirators against black America too? They're one of the most liberal major organizations there is.

 

[Shift]

didnt work for me

 

[Ethereal]

2. LET'S SAY HE ORDERED THE BEHEADING. HOW COULD HE HAVE WHEN HE WAS REPORTED DEAD BEFORE THIS GUY WAS EVER CAPTURED?

I'm not saying he did it. I'm trying to understand why, if America was behind it, did they point the finger at a man they claimed was already dead. If you want to frame someone, it usually works best when the person (being framed) is alive.

3. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY COULD HAVE PICKED A BETTER SMOKESCREEN. WHY? THE BERG CASE ISN'T BEING REPORTED MUCH AND WHEN PEOPLEMENTIONED THIS GUY WAS THE DEAD (THE ACCUSED) THEY HUSHED IT.

I think the Nick Berg case received more then enough coverage by the media.

WHY SHOULD GOD NOT BLESS SADDAM? DO YOU SEE SADDAM INVADING A COUNTRY THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY AND KILLING THOUSANDS OF CIVILLIONS?

I saw him invading a neighbor country, killing civilians there, all in the name of oil. I'm not saying God should or should not bless either country, I'm asking you why one and not the other.

IS SADDAMS COUNTRY BASED ON RACISM THAT HAS ELIMINATED/DECIMATED ENTIRE AFRIKAN AND NATIVE CIVILIZATIONS? DOES SADDAMS COUNTRY RAPE AND PILLAGE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES VIA THE WORLD CONSERVATION BANK?

Saddams country is not based on racism, rather poverty, starvation, and murder. Are you trying to tell me that these specific things you listed on America's rap sheet are worthy of dismissing God's blessing? You can list crimes all day long but two things are certain. One being that the racism and decimation you speak of were established/founded by dead presidents and leaders, while Saddam has done all this shit, yet remained in office to continue his torment. Second, Saddam is guilty of half the shit you listed, yet he should be blessed.. to me it makes absolutely no sense to bless one evil and not the other.

YOU CAN SAY"OH HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE" BUT THATS UP FOR *DEBATE*.

1. Why were there torture chambers in Iraq?
2. How do we have so many civilian testimonies?
3. Why are there mass grave sites with [executed] children and women?

I honestly can not tell you for a 100% fact that Saddam has killed with his own hands, but I know that his children (both of whom were next in line to run the country) are responsible for a great deal of destruction, both of which acted directly under Saddam.

DOWN WITH AMERICA, THE GREAT SATAN

You can be down with America and not the government, they are not one in the same.

There is also documentation (which I've linked and posted in the past) that say's he didn't gas the kurds (because he never used that kind of gas) and didn't kill his people.

I've read various documentation that says Saddam was not responsible for the gassing of 5,000 Kurds, but why do we give it any more credit than we give the new york times? More importantly, HERESY, the 5,000 Kurds that Saddam allegedly gassed is just a drop in the bucket. You would have to have garbage bags full of documents to clear his name entirely. I don't think it's even a question whether or not he killed people. I find it very odd that someone who believes in so many conspiracy theories would turn their head to such atrocities. But lets just sweep it unda da rug and just watch what the U.S. is doing to this poor innocent little country, with it's moral leaders.

WHITE DEVIL: I Posted almost all of what you just gave us in a thread a while back, and only one person (that I can think of, nefar559) had anything to say in response.

People, we can argue all day about documentation, proof, evidence, whatever, but when it comes to actually validating something in the past, it can not be done in a manner that is so mind blowing you just have to believe it. People are going to believe what they want, and they are going to rest in the comfort of whatever story highlights their own personal interests. I've seen people spit all over the media, but provide articles from off the wall sources to back up what they are preaching. The fact of the matter is, not a single one of you can prove that the holocaust, slavery, or the decapitation of Nick Berg ever really happened.